Valkenar | Fri 10-Feb-12 09:40 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#43227, "What you're missing"
Edited on Fri 10-Feb-12 09:43 AM
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>Neutrality, as it was originally intended by Gary Gygax, and >how it came to be adopted in genres which use the LG to CE >spectrum, was not meant as a balance between actions.
CF uses those words, but they aren't meant to mean the same thingI absolutely agree with what you're saying when it comes to real life and in some other games and books. Maybe it was a mistake for CF to use the same alignment/ethos words. Perhaps they should've been called Morality and Organization or something. If it helps, you can replace those words in your head.
Because the fact is that CF simply defines neutral differently than it is defined in other contexts. In CF neutral really does mean that you are either intentionally balancing good and evil acts, or that you are willing to kill for some grand purpose, but not your own direct benefit, as often.
The whole scale in CF is more evil than it is in reality. In CF, a good character would be considered neutral in reality, neutral in CF would be actually quite evil in reality, and evil in CF is just so ridiculously sociopathic there are only two or three examples in history of people who are that evil, and even that is debateable.
That is simple how it is defined in CF. The words are the same, but the meaning is different.
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Why do people dislike Nexus?
[View all] , Puhguly, Thu 09-Feb-12 08:16 AM
RE: Why do people dislike Nexus?,
Elerosse,
10-Feb-12 01:59 AM, #43
Fort gives all neutrals free pass that way.,
DurNominator,
10-Feb-12 03:11 AM, #44
Totally disagee and can't fall in line with this logic.,
Alston,
10-Feb-12 03:33 AM, #46
And I totally disagree with your logic.,
DurNominator,
10-Feb-12 05:08 AM, #47
Actually, it seems to me that I am the one who understa...,
Alston,
10-Feb-12 05:23 AM, #48
My take on your posts here.,
Kalageadon,
10-Feb-12 08:01 AM, #50
Accidently killing a good person isn't an evil act.,
Alston,
10-Feb-12 08:34 AM, #51
On the fact that your saying it is chaotic shows your l...,
Tesline,
10-Feb-12 09:17 AM, #52
You wasted a lot of text on me. I read it, I think you ...,
Alston,
10-Feb-12 09:37 AM, #56
Again:,
Tsunami,
10-Feb-12 11:23 AM, #73
I do not agree with how you think alignment works and.....,
Alston,
10-Feb-12 12:42 PM, #76
You fail to remember one thing:,
Tsunami,
10-Feb-12 12:44 PM, #79
Funny you should say that because,,
Alston,
10-Feb-12 12:53 PM, #84
Fine by me,,
Tsunami,
10-Feb-12 12:56 PM, #86
What you're missing,
Valkenar,
10-Feb-12 09:43 AM #57
I agree with what you are saying, but I'm not missing t...,
Alston,
10-Feb-12 10:10 AM, #59
Neutral is the hardest to Roleplay in a hardcore manner...,
Tsunami,
10-Feb-12 11:28 AM, #74
Why not accept CF?,
Valkenar,
10-Feb-12 12:42 PM, #77
I don't think most people play neutral properly in gene...,
Alston,
10-Feb-12 12:46 PM, #80
Nexus vs Neutral,
Tsunami,
10-Feb-12 11:21 AM, #71
More like Lawful Good,
Tsunami,
10-Feb-12 10:14 AM, #62
The concept of Balance exists for them.,
Alston,
10-Feb-12 10:18 AM, #64
RE: The concept of Balance exists for them.,
Daevryn,
10-Feb-12 10:40 AM, #66
Which is another sticking point with me.,
Alston,
10-Feb-12 12:39 PM, #75
RE: Which is another sticking point with me.,
Daevryn,
10-Feb-12 01:18 PM, #87
This. NT ~,
Batman (Anonymous),
10-Feb-12 03:00 PM, #88
Plus,
Tsunami,
10-Feb-12 11:07 AM, #68
The concept may exist, but it doesn't exist for everybo...,
Alston,
10-Feb-12 12:43 PM, #78
It can't exist AND not-exist.,
Tsunami,
10-Feb-12 12:45 PM, #81
I gave in on Dry quicksand, but I will drown in it befo...,
Alston,
10-Feb-12 12:47 PM, #82
Prepare to drown sir. nt,
Tsunami,
10-Feb-12 12:48 PM, #83
It'll have to be tomorrow. I got a 5k run at 4am.,
Alston,
10-Feb-12 12:55 PM, #85
Fort does Evil every day,
Tsunami,
10-Feb-12 10:11 AM, #60
I disagree with that.,
Alston,
10-Feb-12 10:28 AM, #65
All life is not sacred in Thera.,
Vortex Magus,
10-Feb-12 11:10 AM, #69
You both misunderstand me.,
Tsunami,
10-Feb-12 11:17 AM, #70
RE: Fort gives all neutrals free pass that way.,
Malakhi,
10-Feb-12 11:21 AM, #72
RE: Fort gives all neutrals free pass that way.,
Elerosse,
10-Feb-12 05:44 PM, #89
RE: Why do people dislike Nexus?,
Neltouda,
09-Feb-12 09:43 PM, #41
Triple seconded nt,
Tsunami,
10-Feb-12 10:09 AM, #58
Awesome Feedback and discussion all. Thank you, and one...,
Puhguly,
09-Feb-12 07:20 PM, #34
Sure,
Rayihn,
09-Feb-12 07:28 PM, #35
Eww, Terry Goodkind.,
Vortex Magus,
09-Feb-12 07:52 PM, #36
Not Terry Pratchett,
Rayihn,
09-Feb-12 08:04 PM, #37
I actually meant Pratchett,
Vortex Magus,
09-Feb-12 08:26 PM, #39
RE: I actually meant Pratchett,
Rayihn,
09-Feb-12 08:32 PM, #40
Discworld is Pratchett,
bobbyp,
09-Feb-12 08:25 PM, #38
BoltThrower/ShaidarHaran/Rahvin sent me a book...,
Twist,
10-Feb-12 12:19 AM, #42
Love all of Pratchett's books and have them all in a ne...,
Abernyte,
10-Feb-12 07:19 AM, #49
For me it's pretty simple,
fist-law,
09-Feb-12 05:54 PM, #32
After arena with some Nexans,
The-me,
09-Feb-12 12:44 PM, #25
RE: Why do people dislike Nexus?,
bobbyp,
09-Feb-12 10:55 AM, #21
Some Thoughts...,
Tac,
09-Feb-12 09:00 AM, #18
Serial Villager Weighing In.,
Homard,
09-Feb-12 08:54 AM, #17
Win! ,
Alston,
09-Feb-12 11:25 AM, #24
RE: Why do people dislike Nexus?,
Chulun (Anonymous),
09-Feb-12 07:25 AM, #14
I mostly hate the nexus-fort dynamic.,
Vallinane (Anonymous),
09-Feb-12 05:54 AM, #6
Hey now, you didn't get unindected for spending a whole...,
Puhguly,
09-Feb-12 06:20 AM, #7
One of the reasons I really REALLY wanted to kill you t...,
Vallinane (Anonymous),
09-Feb-12 06:49 AM, #10
Nothing against you, but this is another reason I don't...,
Alston,
09-Feb-12 11:20 AM, #23
RE: Nothing against you, but this is another reason I d...,
Daevryn,
09-Feb-12 03:05 PM, #29
Im just going to say your one of those people who can o...,
Tesline,
10-Feb-12 09:22 AM, #53
You see, I feel like I am not seeing in black and white...,
Alston,
10-Feb-12 10:16 AM, #63
Which is fine I personally dont have any concise oponio...,
Tesline,
10-Feb-12 10:53 AM, #67
Nexus Dynamic with Fort Consideration.,
Kalageadon,
09-Feb-12 04:26 PM, #30
Thats called Nexus doing it's job,
jalbrin,
09-Feb-12 06:43 AM, #9
I don't mind ganking for the most part,
Vallinane (Anonymous),
09-Feb-12 07:04 AM, #12
I can see how that might be annoying, but,
jalbrin,
09-Feb-12 07:12 AM, #13
I disagree on this.,
Allysia (Anonymous),
09-Feb-12 09:14 AM, #19
I think what you said is all basically true.,
Vallinane (Anonymous),
09-Feb-12 10:04 AM, #20
RE: I think what you said is all basically true.,
lasentia,
09-Feb-12 01:24 PM, #26
RE: I mostly hate the nexus-fort dynamic.,
Daevryn,
09-Feb-12 03:02 PM, #27
Nailed it. I think this jibes with most Fort-upswing ex...,
blackbird,
09-Feb-12 06:02 PM, #33
Since I have played I have never seen Fort in a "downsw...,
Tesline,
10-Feb-12 09:24 AM, #54
I dislike them because:,
Amberion,
09-Feb-12 05:52 AM, #5
Something you might find about Nexus,
Puhguly,
09-Feb-12 06:24 AM, #8
This,
jalbrin,
09-Feb-12 06:59 AM, #11
I love Nexus,
jalbrin,
09-Feb-12 05:44 AM, #4
Because they are evil.,
Alston,
09-Feb-12 05:13 AM, #3
So since you as a player dislike the Cabal, your rp suf...,
Puhguly,
09-Feb-12 06:22 AM, #15
Ok kids - ,
Rayihn,
09-Feb-12 08:17 AM, #16
I'm not trying to flame or troll here, but my RP does n...,
Alston,
09-Feb-12 11:09 AM, #22
So you're saying that you'll attempt to pk (even multi-...,
jalbrin,
09-Feb-12 03:04 PM, #28
Sure. Tips for RP'ing with Nexun in side.,
Alston,
10-Feb-12 03:20 AM, #45
From now on Im making a nexun flyto/offensive murder gn...,
Tesline,
10-Feb-12 09:27 AM, #55
Don't forget the magic word!,
Alston,
10-Feb-12 10:12 AM, #61
Somebody please protect this man from himself and his c...,
Lhydia,
09-Feb-12 04:37 PM, #31
We all wanted Masters back instead.,
TMNS,
09-Feb-12 01:19 AM, #2
Flip flopping mainly,
Oldril,
08-Feb-12 10:28 PM, #1
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