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Vallinane (Anonymous)Thu 09-Feb-12 10:04 AM
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#43185, "I think what you said is all basically true."


          

Just to make this clear, I don't actually hate the nexus cabal nor do I hate any particular nexuns in it. I don't consider nexus unfun or bad for the game. I just think that its really freaking annoying to deal with nexus from the fort side.

>Biggest problem I see is how other cabals interact with Nexus. Nexus is still going to come at you when it is called for. If you don't want us to aid you when you're out of power, that's fine, but that's your choice.

>it's a flaw in the leadership/RP of fort and any other cabal to actively refuse the aid of nexus

Well, no, its an RP restriction. I consider Fort grouping with Nexus (especially nexus who just slew their friends and sworn allies a few days ago) to be #### RP, on the level of outlanders arguing points of law with tribunal. It's basically powergaming: So I'm just going to ignore all your past and future sins for the sake of more conveniently gathering shinies and ganging down my enemies today? Evil might get away with it, but I have a hard time envisioning even the nicest fortie allowing that.

>I would never run head first into suicide against three or four enemies for the sake of the balance- it doesn't serve balance to just get yourself killed.

Sure, I agree wholeheartedly. I'd do the same thing in your place. But you can see why this results in Nexus only fighting favorable engagements against the Fortress, while Fort is strictly forbidden from striking back on favorable terms against the Nexus, right?

>In essence you say we steamrolled fort, I see it as fort gets themselves steamrolled by how they fight. And still, looking back, I killed an impressive six fort people in my entire char life. Compared to 166 battle.

Well, you yourself admit you steamrolled fort. From my perspective, Nexus steamrolled fort quite often. I'm actually okay with that: I don't reall mind and I think I'd do the same in your place. Its really more of a question of how Fort can steamroll you back. Which I don't think ever happened, despite nexuns killing numerous forties and raiding successfully numerous times.

And while I think Allysia was a stunning achievement of a bard, I don't think your PK numbers are particularly relevant to the discussion. Naturally, you'd find it easier to kill loads of battle who have ####ty escape mechanisms than loads of fort, who can just quaff away, especially considering battle was your 24/7 enemy and fort was sort of that whipping boy you could bring out whenever you were bored

  

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HOT TopicWhy do people dislike Nexus? [View all] , Puhguly, Thu 09-Feb-12 08:16 AM
Reply RE: Why do people dislike Nexus?, Elerosse, 10-Feb-12 01:59 AM, #43
Reply Fort gives all neutrals free pass that way., DurNominator, 10-Feb-12 03:11 AM, #44
     Reply Totally disagee and can't fall in line with this logic., Alston, 10-Feb-12 03:33 AM, #46
     Reply And I totally disagree with your logic., DurNominator, 10-Feb-12 05:08 AM, #47
     Reply Actually, it seems to me that I am the one who understa..., Alston, 10-Feb-12 05:23 AM, #48
          Reply My take on your posts here., Kalageadon, 10-Feb-12 08:01 AM, #50
          Reply Accidently killing a good person isn't an evil act., Alston, 10-Feb-12 08:34 AM, #51
               Reply On the fact that your saying it is chaotic shows your l..., Tesline, 10-Feb-12 09:17 AM, #52
               Reply You wasted a lot of text on me. I read it, I think you ..., Alston, 10-Feb-12 09:37 AM, #56
                    Reply Again:, Tsunami, 10-Feb-12 11:23 AM, #73
                         Reply I do not agree with how you think alignment works and....., Alston, 10-Feb-12 12:42 PM, #76
                              Reply You fail to remember one thing:, Tsunami, 10-Feb-12 12:44 PM, #79
                                   Reply Funny you should say that because,, Alston, 10-Feb-12 12:53 PM, #84
                                        Reply Fine by me,, Tsunami, 10-Feb-12 12:56 PM, #86
               Reply What you're missing, Valkenar, 10-Feb-12 09:43 AM, #57
               Reply I agree with what you are saying, but I'm not missing t..., Alston, 10-Feb-12 10:10 AM, #59
                    Reply Neutral is the hardest to Roleplay in a hardcore manner..., Tsunami, 10-Feb-12 11:28 AM, #74
                    Reply Why not accept CF?, Valkenar, 10-Feb-12 12:42 PM, #77
                         Reply I don't think most people play neutral properly in gene..., Alston, 10-Feb-12 12:46 PM, #80
               Reply Nexus vs Neutral, Tsunami, 10-Feb-12 11:21 AM, #71
          Reply More like Lawful Good, Tsunami, 10-Feb-12 10:14 AM, #62
               Reply The concept of Balance exists for them., Alston, 10-Feb-12 10:18 AM, #64
                    Reply RE: The concept of Balance exists for them., Daevryn, 10-Feb-12 10:40 AM, #66
                    Reply Which is another sticking point with me., Alston, 10-Feb-12 12:39 PM, #75
                         Reply RE: Which is another sticking point with me., Daevryn, 10-Feb-12 01:18 PM, #87
                              Reply This. NT ~, Batman (Anonymous), 10-Feb-12 03:00 PM, #88
                    Reply Plus, Tsunami, 10-Feb-12 11:07 AM, #68
                         Reply The concept may exist, but it doesn't exist for everybo..., Alston, 10-Feb-12 12:43 PM, #78
                              Reply It can't exist AND not-exist., Tsunami, 10-Feb-12 12:45 PM, #81
                                   Reply I gave in on Dry quicksand, but I will drown in it befo..., Alston, 10-Feb-12 12:47 PM, #82
                                        Reply Prepare to drown sir. nt, Tsunami, 10-Feb-12 12:48 PM, #83
                                             Reply It'll have to be tomorrow. I got a 5k run at 4am., Alston, 10-Feb-12 12:55 PM, #85
     Reply Fort does Evil every day, Tsunami, 10-Feb-12 10:11 AM, #60
          Reply I disagree with that., Alston, 10-Feb-12 10:28 AM, #65
          Reply All life is not sacred in Thera., Vortex Magus, 10-Feb-12 11:10 AM, #69
               Reply You both misunderstand me., Tsunami, 10-Feb-12 11:17 AM, #70
     Reply RE: Fort gives all neutrals free pass that way., Malakhi, 10-Feb-12 11:21 AM, #72
     Reply RE: Fort gives all neutrals free pass that way., Elerosse, 10-Feb-12 05:44 PM, #89
Reply RE: Why do people dislike Nexus?, Neltouda, 09-Feb-12 09:43 PM, #41
Reply Triple seconded nt, Tsunami, 10-Feb-12 10:09 AM, #58
Reply Awesome Feedback and discussion all. Thank you, and one..., Puhguly, 09-Feb-12 07:20 PM, #34
Reply Sure, Rayihn, 09-Feb-12 07:28 PM, #35
     Reply Eww, Terry Goodkind., Vortex Magus, 09-Feb-12 07:52 PM, #36
          Reply Not Terry Pratchett, Rayihn, 09-Feb-12 08:04 PM, #37
          Reply I actually meant Pratchett, Vortex Magus, 09-Feb-12 08:26 PM, #39
               Reply RE: I actually meant Pratchett, Rayihn, 09-Feb-12 08:32 PM, #40
          Reply Discworld is Pratchett, bobbyp, 09-Feb-12 08:25 PM, #38
               Reply BoltThrower/ShaidarHaran/Rahvin sent me a book..., Twist, 10-Feb-12 12:19 AM, #42
                    Reply Love all of Pratchett's books and have them all in a ne..., Abernyte, 10-Feb-12 07:19 AM, #49
Reply For me it's pretty simple, fist-law, 09-Feb-12 05:54 PM, #32
Reply After arena with some Nexans, The-me, 09-Feb-12 12:44 PM, #25
Reply RE: Why do people dislike Nexus?, bobbyp, 09-Feb-12 10:55 AM, #21
Reply Some Thoughts..., Tac, 09-Feb-12 09:00 AM, #18
Reply Serial Villager Weighing In., Homard, 09-Feb-12 08:54 AM, #17
Reply Win! , Alston, 09-Feb-12 11:25 AM, #24
Reply RE: Why do people dislike Nexus?, Chulun (Anonymous), 09-Feb-12 07:25 AM, #14
Reply I mostly hate the nexus-fort dynamic., Vallinane (Anonymous), 09-Feb-12 05:54 AM, #6
Reply Hey now, you didn't get unindected for spending a whole..., Puhguly, 09-Feb-12 06:20 AM, #7
Reply One of the reasons I really REALLY wanted to kill you t..., Vallinane (Anonymous), 09-Feb-12 06:49 AM, #10
     Reply Nothing against you, but this is another reason I don't..., Alston, 09-Feb-12 11:20 AM, #23
     Reply RE: Nothing against you, but this is another reason I d..., Daevryn, 09-Feb-12 03:05 PM, #29
     Reply Im just going to say your one of those people who can o..., Tesline, 10-Feb-12 09:22 AM, #53
          Reply You see, I feel like I am not seeing in black and white..., Alston, 10-Feb-12 10:16 AM, #63
               Reply Which is fine I personally dont have any concise oponio..., Tesline, 10-Feb-12 10:53 AM, #67
     Reply Nexus Dynamic with Fort Consideration., Kalageadon, 09-Feb-12 04:26 PM, #30
Reply Thats called Nexus doing it's job, jalbrin, 09-Feb-12 06:43 AM, #9
Reply I don't mind ganking for the most part, Vallinane (Anonymous), 09-Feb-12 07:04 AM, #12
     Reply I can see how that might be annoying, but, jalbrin, 09-Feb-12 07:12 AM, #13
Reply I disagree on this., Allysia (Anonymous), 09-Feb-12 09:14 AM, #19
Reply I think what you said is all basically true., Vallinane (Anonymous), 09-Feb-12 10:04 AM #20
     Reply RE: I think what you said is all basically true., lasentia, 09-Feb-12 01:24 PM, #26
Reply RE: I mostly hate the nexus-fort dynamic., Daevryn, 09-Feb-12 03:02 PM, #27
     Reply Nailed it. I think this jibes with most Fort-upswing ex..., blackbird, 09-Feb-12 06:02 PM, #33
          Reply Since I have played I have never seen Fort in a "downsw..., Tesline, 10-Feb-12 09:24 AM, #54
Reply I dislike them because:, Amberion, 09-Feb-12 05:52 AM, #5
Reply Something you might find about Nexus, Puhguly, 09-Feb-12 06:24 AM, #8
     Reply This, jalbrin, 09-Feb-12 06:59 AM, #11
Reply I love Nexus, jalbrin, 09-Feb-12 05:44 AM, #4
Reply Because they are evil., Alston, 09-Feb-12 05:13 AM, #3
Reply So since you as a player dislike the Cabal, your rp suf..., Puhguly, 09-Feb-12 06:22 AM, #15
Reply Ok kids - , Rayihn, 09-Feb-12 08:17 AM, #16
Reply I'm not trying to flame or troll here, but my RP does n..., Alston, 09-Feb-12 11:09 AM, #22
     Reply So you're saying that you'll attempt to pk (even multi-..., jalbrin, 09-Feb-12 03:04 PM, #28
          Reply Sure. Tips for RP'ing with Nexun in side., Alston, 10-Feb-12 03:20 AM, #45
               Reply From now on Im making a nexun flyto/offensive murder gn..., Tesline, 10-Feb-12 09:27 AM, #55
                    Reply Don't forget the magic word!, Alston, 10-Feb-12 10:12 AM, #61
Reply Somebody please protect this man from himself and his c..., Lhydia, 09-Feb-12 04:37 PM, #31
Reply We all wanted Masters back instead., TMNS, 09-Feb-12 01:19 AM, #2
Reply Flip flopping mainly, Oldril, 08-Feb-12 10:28 PM, #1
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