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lasentiaThu 09-Feb-12 01:24 PM
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#43191, "RE: I think what you said is all basically true."


          

"I just think that its really freaking annoying to deal with nexus from the fort side."
Yeah, certainly is, but I think that's a good thing. It's part of the fort RP dynamic. And though there are some people that think fort should just be about eradicating everything that isn't them and that might someday pose a problem, I never see it that way. I had a hell of a long talk with Puhg for example, after I rolled up my fort bard, about those things.

"It's basically powergaming."
I also don't see it that way. If fort is all about the greater good of the light, and nexus is willing to help you get back your orb and maybe slay a few scions or imperials in the process, I fail to see why it could not be embraced. Take it as an opportunity to preach, to engage them, to try and convert them. It's a golden chance to understand and interact with them. I don't see grouping with people as an act of acceptance, forgiveness or condoning what they do. It's an opportunity, and people make of it what they will. Lots of imperials I grouped with offered me the oath for example.

"while Fort is strictly forbidden from striking back on favorable terms against the Nexus"
I saw some fort people come after us, and yeah, it's not usually favorable to them and may have IC consequences. But, those are the restrictions of the cabal. People throw fits when battle go after non-cabal enmies and non-mages. You have drawbacks in a cabal, and if you ignore the cabal's principles you're going to end up in trouble eventually. In fort, it's not being a zealot against nexus, plain and simple. And so you know, I got summoned & cranialed to death by Athioles and a shaman as I was walking down Eastern. When light had ceased tipping, but I did not tell them that, not that I think they wouldn't have done it anyway. So you can strike back. Maybe not wage all out war is all. I imagine if you know light is tipping, you will not get in as much trouble for being proactive against them.

"Its really more of a question of how Fort can steamroll you back."
Fort can steamroll Nexus, just have to do it the right way. If you know light tips, you know they'll likely come, and a strong defense can effectively tear apart any group. And sometimes, you just have to avoid the fight. Certain people are bad matchups, but Eachainn + Vallinane can effectively beat the hell out of lots of bonded nexus pairs I'd wager.

"fort was sort of that whipping boy you could bring out whenever you were bored "
Hey, I loved me some fort people, and I was rarely overly aggressive against you guys I felt. I even gave Fort a try but I admit the cabal itself is not for me really with my play style, I tend to be a bit more of a run around alone exploring type than anything where Fort seemed like one big happy family. Allysia was a huge exception in terms of my willinginess to PK instead of just leave people alone, I'm about one of the most non-pk oriented players out there I feel like.

I rarely whipped on you guys by the way, that's why I said the PK numbers. They are more of an example of how rarely I personally went after you guys, cause really none of you made a habit of bothering me. I thought Allysia and Vallinane got along overly well, in spite of the tension between their ideologies, and I think that makes for interesting RP at least, even if it does provide some PK related frustrations. I know others were far more aggressive, but that's a playstyle thing. Some Nexus people are just softer than others I guess

  

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HOT TopicWhy do people dislike Nexus? [View all] , Puhguly, Thu 09-Feb-12 08:16 AM
Reply RE: Why do people dislike Nexus?, Elerosse, 10-Feb-12 01:59 AM, #43
Reply Fort gives all neutrals free pass that way., DurNominator, 10-Feb-12 03:11 AM, #44
     Reply Totally disagee and can't fall in line with this logic., Alston, 10-Feb-12 03:33 AM, #46
     Reply And I totally disagree with your logic., DurNominator, 10-Feb-12 05:08 AM, #47
     Reply Actually, it seems to me that I am the one who understa..., Alston, 10-Feb-12 05:23 AM, #48
          Reply My take on your posts here., Kalageadon, 10-Feb-12 08:01 AM, #50
          Reply Accidently killing a good person isn't an evil act., Alston, 10-Feb-12 08:34 AM, #51
               Reply On the fact that your saying it is chaotic shows your l..., Tesline, 10-Feb-12 09:17 AM, #52
               Reply You wasted a lot of text on me. I read it, I think you ..., Alston, 10-Feb-12 09:37 AM, #56
                    Reply Again:, Tsunami, 10-Feb-12 11:23 AM, #73
                         Reply I do not agree with how you think alignment works and....., Alston, 10-Feb-12 12:42 PM, #76
                              Reply You fail to remember one thing:, Tsunami, 10-Feb-12 12:44 PM, #79
                                   Reply Funny you should say that because,, Alston, 10-Feb-12 12:53 PM, #84
                                        Reply Fine by me,, Tsunami, 10-Feb-12 12:56 PM, #86
               Reply What you're missing, Valkenar, 10-Feb-12 09:43 AM, #57
               Reply I agree with what you are saying, but I'm not missing t..., Alston, 10-Feb-12 10:10 AM, #59
                    Reply Neutral is the hardest to Roleplay in a hardcore manner..., Tsunami, 10-Feb-12 11:28 AM, #74
                    Reply Why not accept CF?, Valkenar, 10-Feb-12 12:42 PM, #77
                         Reply I don't think most people play neutral properly in gene..., Alston, 10-Feb-12 12:46 PM, #80
               Reply Nexus vs Neutral, Tsunami, 10-Feb-12 11:21 AM, #71
          Reply More like Lawful Good, Tsunami, 10-Feb-12 10:14 AM, #62
               Reply The concept of Balance exists for them., Alston, 10-Feb-12 10:18 AM, #64
                    Reply RE: The concept of Balance exists for them., Daevryn, 10-Feb-12 10:40 AM, #66
                    Reply Which is another sticking point with me., Alston, 10-Feb-12 12:39 PM, #75
                         Reply RE: Which is another sticking point with me., Daevryn, 10-Feb-12 01:18 PM, #87
                              Reply This. NT ~, Batman (Anonymous), 10-Feb-12 03:00 PM, #88
                    Reply Plus, Tsunami, 10-Feb-12 11:07 AM, #68
                         Reply The concept may exist, but it doesn't exist for everybo..., Alston, 10-Feb-12 12:43 PM, #78
                              Reply It can't exist AND not-exist., Tsunami, 10-Feb-12 12:45 PM, #81
                                   Reply I gave in on Dry quicksand, but I will drown in it befo..., Alston, 10-Feb-12 12:47 PM, #82
                                        Reply Prepare to drown sir. nt, Tsunami, 10-Feb-12 12:48 PM, #83
                                             Reply It'll have to be tomorrow. I got a 5k run at 4am., Alston, 10-Feb-12 12:55 PM, #85
     Reply Fort does Evil every day, Tsunami, 10-Feb-12 10:11 AM, #60
          Reply I disagree with that., Alston, 10-Feb-12 10:28 AM, #65
          Reply All life is not sacred in Thera., Vortex Magus, 10-Feb-12 11:10 AM, #69
               Reply You both misunderstand me., Tsunami, 10-Feb-12 11:17 AM, #70
     Reply RE: Fort gives all neutrals free pass that way., Malakhi, 10-Feb-12 11:21 AM, #72
     Reply RE: Fort gives all neutrals free pass that way., Elerosse, 10-Feb-12 05:44 PM, #89
Reply RE: Why do people dislike Nexus?, Neltouda, 09-Feb-12 09:43 PM, #41
Reply Triple seconded nt, Tsunami, 10-Feb-12 10:09 AM, #58
Reply Awesome Feedback and discussion all. Thank you, and one..., Puhguly, 09-Feb-12 07:20 PM, #34
Reply Sure, Rayihn, 09-Feb-12 07:28 PM, #35
     Reply Eww, Terry Goodkind., Vortex Magus, 09-Feb-12 07:52 PM, #36
          Reply Not Terry Pratchett, Rayihn, 09-Feb-12 08:04 PM, #37
          Reply I actually meant Pratchett, Vortex Magus, 09-Feb-12 08:26 PM, #39
               Reply RE: I actually meant Pratchett, Rayihn, 09-Feb-12 08:32 PM, #40
          Reply Discworld is Pratchett, bobbyp, 09-Feb-12 08:25 PM, #38
               Reply BoltThrower/ShaidarHaran/Rahvin sent me a book..., Twist, 10-Feb-12 12:19 AM, #42
                    Reply Love all of Pratchett's books and have them all in a ne..., Abernyte, 10-Feb-12 07:19 AM, #49
Reply For me it's pretty simple, fist-law, 09-Feb-12 05:54 PM, #32
Reply After arena with some Nexans, The-me, 09-Feb-12 12:44 PM, #25
Reply RE: Why do people dislike Nexus?, bobbyp, 09-Feb-12 10:55 AM, #21
Reply Some Thoughts..., Tac, 09-Feb-12 09:00 AM, #18
Reply Serial Villager Weighing In., Homard, 09-Feb-12 08:54 AM, #17
Reply Win! , Alston, 09-Feb-12 11:25 AM, #24
Reply RE: Why do people dislike Nexus?, Chulun (Anonymous), 09-Feb-12 07:25 AM, #14
Reply I mostly hate the nexus-fort dynamic., Vallinane (Anonymous), 09-Feb-12 05:54 AM, #6
Reply Hey now, you didn't get unindected for spending a whole..., Puhguly, 09-Feb-12 06:20 AM, #7
Reply One of the reasons I really REALLY wanted to kill you t..., Vallinane (Anonymous), 09-Feb-12 06:49 AM, #10
     Reply Nothing against you, but this is another reason I don't..., Alston, 09-Feb-12 11:20 AM, #23
     Reply RE: Nothing against you, but this is another reason I d..., Daevryn, 09-Feb-12 03:05 PM, #29
     Reply Im just going to say your one of those people who can o..., Tesline, 10-Feb-12 09:22 AM, #53
          Reply You see, I feel like I am not seeing in black and white..., Alston, 10-Feb-12 10:16 AM, #63
               Reply Which is fine I personally dont have any concise oponio..., Tesline, 10-Feb-12 10:53 AM, #67
     Reply Nexus Dynamic with Fort Consideration., Kalageadon, 09-Feb-12 04:26 PM, #30
Reply Thats called Nexus doing it's job, jalbrin, 09-Feb-12 06:43 AM, #9
Reply I don't mind ganking for the most part, Vallinane (Anonymous), 09-Feb-12 07:04 AM, #12
     Reply I can see how that might be annoying, but, jalbrin, 09-Feb-12 07:12 AM, #13
Reply I disagree on this., Allysia (Anonymous), 09-Feb-12 09:14 AM, #19
Reply I think what you said is all basically true., Vallinane (Anonymous), 09-Feb-12 10:04 AM, #20
     Reply RE: I think what you said is all basically true., lasentia, 09-Feb-12 01:24 PM #26
Reply RE: I mostly hate the nexus-fort dynamic., Daevryn, 09-Feb-12 03:02 PM, #27
     Reply Nailed it. I think this jibes with most Fort-upswing ex..., blackbird, 09-Feb-12 06:02 PM, #33
          Reply Since I have played I have never seen Fort in a "downsw..., Tesline, 10-Feb-12 09:24 AM, #54
Reply I dislike them because:, Amberion, 09-Feb-12 05:52 AM, #5
Reply Something you might find about Nexus, Puhguly, 09-Feb-12 06:24 AM, #8
     Reply This, jalbrin, 09-Feb-12 06:59 AM, #11
Reply I love Nexus, jalbrin, 09-Feb-12 05:44 AM, #4
Reply Because they are evil., Alston, 09-Feb-12 05:13 AM, #3
Reply So since you as a player dislike the Cabal, your rp suf..., Puhguly, 09-Feb-12 06:22 AM, #15
Reply Ok kids - , Rayihn, 09-Feb-12 08:17 AM, #16
Reply I'm not trying to flame or troll here, but my RP does n..., Alston, 09-Feb-12 11:09 AM, #22
     Reply So you're saying that you'll attempt to pk (even multi-..., jalbrin, 09-Feb-12 03:04 PM, #28
          Reply Sure. Tips for RP'ing with Nexun in side., Alston, 10-Feb-12 03:20 AM, #45
               Reply From now on Im making a nexun flyto/offensive murder gn..., Tesline, 10-Feb-12 09:27 AM, #55
                    Reply Don't forget the magic word!, Alston, 10-Feb-12 10:12 AM, #61
Reply Somebody please protect this man from himself and his c..., Lhydia, 09-Feb-12 04:37 PM, #31
Reply We all wanted Masters back instead., TMNS, 09-Feb-12 01:19 AM, #2
Reply Flip flopping mainly, Oldril, 08-Feb-12 10:28 PM, #1
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