Maximum Statistics: 23str, 16int, 18wis, 22dex, 22con, 17chr
Sp.Ability: Detect Hidden, Infravision
Vulnerable: Holy, Light
Resistance: Poison, Magic


Would like to hear the immortal take on this.

1) The stats are crazy. This is like the ideal warrior who can flurry, dodge and has more con than a giant more than twice his height. Does it make any kind of logical sense at all? Oh, and POISON and MAGIC resist?

(As for holy, there are ways around that. Avoid ONE class or engage when the odds are in your favour, which you can do since they can't hide from you. And there aren't that many marans about with searing light to make a sizeable disadvantage. As for weapon wraths, deal with it the same way elves deal with iron)

2) The ability to strike from the shadows of thieves and assassins are counterpointed by the fact that they are generally weak fighters, and that all alignments can play thieves and assassins.

Why do we have an evil race that can totally negate the good balance of thieves and assassins with Duergar anti-paladins, shamans and warriors? Do I need to say the word... AXE?

Given also that good base have only one maledicting class (which needs empowerment) while evil base has that + two other maledicting classes which don't need empowerment + have unholy weapon/lich options, don't you think having a detect hidden super warrior race is a bit of an overbalance? Then throw in the fact that the evil base has access to a cabal that is not dependent induction from leaders....

Let's not talk about what's in swing or what's not in swing, but game mechanics. With AP upgrade and paladin downgrade..