Well unfortunately my client (which I've used for so many years that I probably won't ever bother changing it) doesn't support any of that and I'm sure most total newbs don't want to bother fiddlin around with a client they don't understand and slight newbs (New to CF but not new to mudding) are put in two catagories. Either they have a good client and can manipulate all that stuff the way they want. Or are like me and have a client that won't let them do all that stuff. But I do understand what you're saying now and I thank you for your support.

Redcro

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