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IsildurSun 25-Jan-04 12:10 AM
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#3577, "RE: Stop making the game frustrating. (rant)"


          

>1. You can't kill or do anything interesting.

You can kill other players. You can try to get (modest) gear off mobs. You can practice up your skills. You can sit in the Inn and RP if that's your thing. You can rank, though that's not the most interesting thing in the world.

>2. You can't explore because your MV regen rates suck.

Yes and no. Exploring at low ranks isn't very productive and movement regen does sort of suck. Having lots of cash to refresh movement every time you pass through a town helps alot. "heal refresh" is what I would miss most if I were suddenly poor.

>3. If you explore at this point you will DIE.

Then don't explore at that point. Bite the bullet and rank up, then explore to your heart's delight.

>4. You can't get enough money to survive (feed yourself /
>train / practice / heal plague, poison / buy a potion?

I had this problem too after my lowbie money source was fixed, but I eventually found another. I'm sure given time you can too. Here's my tip. Lowbies can't kill powerful mobs. Mobs that aren't powerful don't have much cash. Ergo, to get cash as a lowbie you should be doing something other than killing mobs.

>4a. I guess there's money out there if you know it. But
>newbies ain't gonna find it (see 1. and 2. and 3.)

Let me propose, for the sake of argument, that the staff doesn't want all low-ranking players to be poor as dirt. This implies there are ways low-ranking characters can get cash without dying. Now, many areas are guaranteed death for such characters. So it stands to reason that the cash intended for them is not going to be found in those areas. So then, it doesn't seem wise to explore such areas with your low-ranking character. Instead consider exploring somewhere that won't get you killed.

>5. Pk sucks at this range for a lot of classes. Too gear
>dependant.

So don't PK if you're playing one of those classes. Instead work on skills or rank. Honestly, if you're any remotely tanky or damagey class then low-level ranking shouldn't be a big deal.

>If CF immortals want to start toning area's down and balancing
>the CF economy they need to stop hitting pre 20's. It seems
>that pre-20 money sources are ALWAYS the ones on the cutting
>block.

Let me just say that lots of money sources have been nerfed since the economy project started and a great many of them were never used by low-ranking characters.

>By chance I encounted an area where the mobs carry decent
>silver. I expect this area to be next, because lowbies aren't
>supposed to have MONEY!

Friendly advice: don't tell anyone about it and it's alot less likely to be changed.

>Also, was any leveling area put in to compensate for the loss
>of the white tower? It ain't half as easy to level out of the
>bitch ranks as it used to be as an evil char.

It's about as easy as it always was. The white tower was a death trap anyway.

>PS: screwing up emerald forest sucked too. Sucks for evils
>leveling, sucks for rangers who used this area to pk.

There are still areas for rangers to PK in at every range. If anything, removing Emerald just means there are fewer places they need to look.

  

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HOT Locked TopicStop making the game frustrating. (rant) [View all] , Thunderpants, Mon 26-Jan-04 07:07 PM
Reply Thread locked on account of rambling., Valguarnera, 19-Feb-04 03:07 AM, #90
Reply Some ideas, LibertusRex, 11-Feb-04 08:29 AM, #81
Reply Some comments:, Valguarnera, 11-Feb-04 02:50 PM, #82
     Reply RE: Some comments:, LibertusRex, 12-Feb-04 10:18 AM, #83
          Reply The point you are missing..., Zulghinlour, 12-Feb-04 12:22 PM, #84
Reply Money-gathering suggestion, Splntrd, 08-Feb-04 02:29 PM, #70
Reply Some o' my thoughts, Meladori, 31-Jan-04 03:56 PM, #51
Reply RE: Stuff in shops., Valguarnera, 31-Jan-04 04:18 PM, #52
     Reply RE: Stuff in shops., Isildur, 31-Jan-04 07:28 PM, #53
     Reply RE: Stuff in shops., Valguarnera, 31-Jan-04 08:58 PM, #54
     Reply That sounds great, Meladori, 31-Jan-04 11:56 PM, #55
     Reply RE: That sounds great, nepenthe, 03-Feb-04 08:04 PM, #58
     Reply RE: Stuff in shops., Kazrael, 01-Feb-04 05:44 PM, #56
Reply I agree with Thunderpants on some level., Xaannix, 28-Jan-04 01:14 PM, #27
Reply RE: That Zany Xaannix!, Valguarnera, 28-Jan-04 02:07 PM, #29
Reply Just have one question, luis, 28-Jan-04 04:30 PM, #30
Reply Since we're on the subject:..., Little Timmy (Anonymous), 28-Jan-04 04:43 PM, #31
Reply Flying negates currents -nt-, Kazrael, 28-Jan-04 05:16 PM, #32
     Reply Wow, thanks! n/t, Little Timmy (Anonymous), 28-Jan-04 05:20 PM, #33
Reply RE: That Zany Xaannix!, Kazrael, 28-Jan-04 05:47 PM, #35
Reply Am I the only one?, Boldereth, 28-Jan-04 11:16 PM, #39
     Reply RE: Am I the only one?, Kazrael, 29-Jan-04 12:47 AM, #40
Reply So ..., Moridin, 28-Jan-04 05:57 PM, #36
Reply RE: So ..., Zulghinlour, 28-Jan-04 07:12 PM, #37
     Reply An example:, Valguarnera, 29-Jan-04 05:43 AM, #43
     Reply RE: An example:, Theerkla, 29-Jan-04 06:54 AM, #44
     Reply RE: An example:, Isildur, 29-Jan-04 10:21 AM, #45
     Reply RE: An example:, Sevarecan, 29-Jan-04 11:20 AM, #46
          Reply RE: An example:, Isildur, 29-Jan-04 01:48 PM, #47
               Reply RE: An example:, Sevarecan, 29-Jan-04 07:46 PM, #48
     Reply Adam Smith, eat your heart out., Gaenlin, 05-Feb-04 11:02 PM, #63
          Reply Already in progress., Valguarnera, 06-Feb-04 12:32 AM, #64
               Reply Demand trends, and moving items., Gaenlin, 09-Feb-04 10:58 PM, #74
                    Reply very good idea, incognito, 10-Feb-04 05:20 AM, #75
                         Reply Supply levels, and a bit more on the shifting economy, Gaenlin, 13-Feb-04 01:09 PM, #85
                              Reply RE: Supply levels, and a bit more on the shifting econo..., Larcat, 13-Feb-04 01:34 PM, #86
                                   Reply RE: Supply levels, and a bit more on the shifting econo..., Gaenlin, 13-Feb-04 02:21 PM, #87
                                        Reply RE: shifting economy, Sevarecan, 13-Feb-04 02:36 PM, #88
     Reply On that note, Moridin, 03-Feb-04 02:26 PM, #57
          Reply errr...., Kazrael, 04-Feb-04 12:23 AM, #59
               Reply How do you figure that?, Moridin, 04-Feb-04 08:24 AM, #60
                    Reply Because:, Valguarnera, 04-Feb-04 01:10 PM, #61
                         Reply But, Xaannix, 07-Feb-04 03:50 PM, #65
                         Reply RE: But, Isildur, 07-Feb-04 04:38 PM, #66
                              Reply I meant more like gear. nt, Xaannix, 07-Feb-04 08:01 PM, #68
                                   Reply Explore more, Theerkla, 10-Feb-04 10:45 AM, #76
                                        Reply Yeah well, Xaannix, 10-Feb-04 12:18 PM, #77
                                        Reply RE: Yeah well, Isildur, 10-Feb-04 12:19 PM, #78
                                        Reply Can't PK anybody at level 5, Theerkla, 10-Feb-04 12:32 PM, #79
                                        Reply Seconded. AFAIK the best non limited axe and dagger in ..., Larcat, 10-Feb-04 03:54 PM, #80
                         Reply Don't let thieves steal from shopkeepers then., (NOT Graatch), 07-Feb-04 07:51 PM, #67
                              Reply Or even better yet, Phaistus, 07-Feb-04 09:34 PM, #69
                              Reply I agree, Xaannix, 08-Feb-04 05:03 PM, #71
Reply Well said., Boldereth, 28-Jan-04 11:00 PM, #38
Reply Maybe because you champion the stuff., Thunderpants, 29-Jan-04 01:27 AM, #42
Reply Zebra Cakes!! ahh so that is the secret..., Bajula, 31-Jan-04 02:13 AM, #49
Reply Man, Valg that was the funniest thing I've read in awhi..., wakeup_deadman, 05-Feb-04 10:27 AM, #62
Reply RE: That Zany Xaannix!, v_vega, 09-Feb-04 10:53 AM, #72
Reply Thank you!, Valguarnera, 09-Feb-04 10:58 AM, #73
Reply Oh well post was up long enough and, Xaannix, 18-Feb-04 09:55 PM, #89
Reply RE: I agree with Thunderpants on some level., Explorer, 28-Jan-04 05:46 PM, #34
Reply RE: I agree with Thunderpants on some level., Isildur, 29-Jan-04 01:12 AM, #41
Reply <<<<--- New thread: If those area's were rigged., Thunderpants, 26-Jan-04 07:09 PM, #22
Reply RE: <<<<--- New thread: If those area's were rigged., Thunderpants, 26-Jan-04 07:10 PM, #23
Reply It's called the skill of learning the lay of the land (..., Yanoreth, 26-Jan-04 07:33 PM, #25
     Reply No, its not called that nt, Xaannix, 28-Jan-04 01:16 PM, #28
Reply RE: finding coins, Sevarecan, 26-Jan-04 07:39 PM, #26
Reply RE: Stop making the game frustrating. (rant), Valguarnera, 25-Jan-04 05:56 AM, #21
Reply RE: Stop making the game frustrating. (rant), Thunderpants, 26-Jan-04 07:04 PM, #20
Reply RE: Stop making the game frustrating. (rant), Valguarnera, 26-Jan-04 07:14 PM, #24
Reply I think you guys do a great job on the areas removing/a..., Vladamir, 31-Jan-04 10:42 AM, #50
Reply RE: Stop making the game frustrating. (rant), Boldereth, 25-Jan-04 10:22 PM, #15
Reply Hi there., Sevarecan, 25-Jan-04 03:50 AM, #9
Reply RE: Stop making the game frustrating. (rant), Isildur, 25-Jan-04 12:10 AM #2
Reply My point = missed., Thunderpants, 25-Jan-04 12:42 AM, #3
Reply Your point is understood, Obaznuk, 25-Jan-04 12:51 AM, #5
Reply The problem lies in....., Quiditus, 25-Jan-04 06:21 PM, #12
Reply My suggestions, Thunderpants, 25-Jan-04 12:52 AM, #6
     Reply RE: My suggestions, Isildur, 25-Jan-04 01:12 AM, #7
Reply You pretty much covered what my response would have bee..., Obaznuk, 25-Jan-04 12:45 AM, #4
     Reply I hope this isn't the general opinion of the Imm staff, Brotmin, 25-Jan-04 04:38 PM, #10
          Reply To be a bit more clear on my point here, Obaznuk, 25-Jan-04 05:54 PM, #11
               Reply RE: To be a bit more clear on my point here, Quiditus, 25-Jan-04 06:30 PM, #13
               Reply I see your point, Brotmin, 25-Jan-04 07:44 PM, #14
                    Reply I think we're on the same page. And by the way, Obaznuk, 26-Jan-04 01:16 AM, #16
                    Reply RE: I think we're on the same page. And by the way, Brotmin, 26-Jan-04 04:54 PM, #19
                    Reply I think I know, Phaistus, 26-Jan-04 04:52 AM, #17
                         Reply That's right. Thanks. (n/t), Brotmin, 26-Jan-04 04:51 PM, #18
Reply before this gets flamed...., Quiditus, 24-Jan-04 09:00 PM, #1
     Reply RE: before this gets flamed...., Kazrael, 25-Jan-04 01:19 AM, #8
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