> Not taking any sides, but when did a 2 on 1 become a
>gangbang? Years ago, a gang was something like 8 imperials
>chasing down someone, or nightgaunting them. Now adays, if
>someone doesn't think they had a fair chance in a fight they
>start crying about getting ganged.
>

I'd still consider 2 people both attacking 1 target at the same time to be a gang, especially a warrior/thief combo. The possibilities for endless lag with that combination are pretty gross. Warrior bashes, thief trips, thief gets cheap shot on both. Lag stacks up. Ick.

> In my humble opinion, a 2 on 1 is perfectly fine. Your
>obviously not doomed to die, and you have a chance to
>escape. In the particular situation that is described, the
>two ragers were trying to AVOID attacking him at the same
>time. They weren't spamming trip and cranial, which to me
>would indicate they were aiming on killing him. Not that my
>opinion is heavily weighted, but I think you were splitting
>hairs, Thror. Not trying to be an ass, but if you think a 2
>on 1 is a gang then good god you didn't experience any REAL
>gang'in. Loosen the reigns man, a fight has to go
>perfectly for two people to totally gank 1 person without
>them getting a flee in or recalling.

I don't know if he needs to "loosen the reigns", and that really wasn't my point. My point was consistency. I want to know, going into a fight just what is, and is not acceptable. My only real complaint is the way certain tactics, like mine, are acceptable for some, but noth others. (Not counting raids and the like, when all gloves are off)

> In a cabal that prides itself on victory, and not losing
>any men, it's awful risky constantly forcing individual
>battles. I just don't see an army in a war taking risks
>like that. Two villagers travelling together wouldn't think
>twice about killing a mage TOGETHER. Its silly to let the
>mage have a chance to escape because fear of getting kicked
>out for not fighting fair.

Ehh, I kind of agree with this. But again, I think tactics come into play. I wouldn't like to see two ragers spamming bash/trip/cranial/whatever on one target, but what I did was also a far cry from that.

><sarcasm>Before long two ragers might get two scions jacked,
>and both of them attack one of the sleeping guys...then get
>kicked out for gang'in them.</sarcasm>
>
>Just as an aside, alignment should play a role in how this
>pans out in the world. A good aligned warrior might try and
>fight the fair fight, but by god a duergar or drow are going
>to try and kill their enemy ruthlessly. As it stands now,
>alignment doesn't really play much of a role in battle at
>all. Everyone has to play the same "fair" character or they
>might get booted.

I wouldn't mind seeing alignment play more of a role in the village, but then the problem is, you'll develop strife between factions within the village, and they won't work as a cohesive unit.

></rant>
>
>Gabe