>I'm not being immature. I'm not saying someone is on crack,
>and I'm not throwing cheap shots. I'm not an Imm, you are.

Before you take this as a cheap shot, look up ignorance. It's not.

>This is your Immortal opinion, this is my player opinion.

I tend to think mine has a little more weight to it since I can determine how many hours a player is putting in. I also have factual stats as resources where as you simply have hearsay.

This isn't a knock at you. It's a point that I'm hoping most players take away from this experience. There is no reason for anyone to literally bring someone down just because they are deleting. Especially a still active player. That's one of the very reasons I brought my forums down. The most vocal bitchers are the ones who can't find a way in game to deal with their dilemma.

>Grogim is just not around, is he a good leader when he is,
>yes. Is he better than I was at leading...probley, is he
>around as much. No. You can think of this as you will, but I

According to his hours, he's around more than enough. You and other players may have your opinions of 'around' but I don't think 8 hours a day comes close to the immortal perspective of 'around.' Sure that was easy to do in college, but when you have RL concerns it isn't very realistic. Nor does that amount of time become a pre-req for leadership positions.

>have proof and apparently you don't cause the playerbase all
>feels just about the same. Do a search for Grogim on here,
>and Dio's. More than half the results are for him to step

All those vocal posters? Read my above comment on this.

I don't read Dioxides. The amount of bitching there is bad for the health.

>down blah, blah, blah...Almost all of the Ragers that
>deleted mentioned him in a negative way. BattleRagers are
>not in bad shape right now, and you the Imm staff over that
>knows why...and are mostly the reason for it. Not saying he

Battle isn't in bad shape. Battle also does not need the overhaul people are suggesting. If there are certain concerns you have or anyone has about battle, instead of complaining, why not provide an alternate solution for every complaint that you (individual poster) bring up? We will never give battle complete gang-banging reign. We will never give battle a 'magic-like' ability to escape bad situations, mongoose-burrow will not be found among the powers!

>leads badly, just he is not around much. It's nice to have a
>very active leader. (to roleplay with. to kill with. To
>learn from) it's makes the BattleRager experence more fun. I

Anyone who needs an active (your perspective) leader to enjoy their experience with CF or a cabal in general needs to rethink why they play this game. A leader is only one part of a cabal, not the sum of all it's parts.

>respect all the Imm's and I have a soft spot for the Battle
>ones (knowing the crap they put up with) but don't feed me a
>lemon and tell me it's sweet, please.

Hey champ, I'm not the bitter one in this whole situation. I'm just pointing out that you're contributing to a problem instead of trying to resolve it.

Like you, I'm through posting about your comments about battle. If you don't get by it now, you just aren't going to get it.