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Locked Topic ic marriageIsildurMon 19-Oct-09 02:15 PM356
Topic Shop Keepers [ View all ]CanadaMon 19-Oct-09 10:36 AM406
Reply RE: Shop Keepers, Isildur, 19-Oct-09 10:01 AM, #5
Reply RE: Shop Keepers, Zulghinlour, 18-Oct-09 03:56 PM, #1
     Reply RE: Shop Keepers, Canada, 18-Oct-09 04:36 PM, #2
          Reply Some items are just to expensive, Rodriguez, 19-Oct-09 02:02 AM, #3
          Reply "Fence" is for expensive items. nt, Splntrd, 19-Oct-09 09:54 AM, #4
          Reply RE: Shop Keepers, dalneko, 19-Oct-09 10:36 AM, #6
Topic Thiefs and lockpicking [ View all ]RodriguezMon 19-Oct-09 02:08 AM306
Reply Neither would be very conducive to the only situation t..., Lhydia, 18-Oct-09 11:36 AM, #1
     Reply Well, Rodriguez, 19-Oct-09 02:08 AM, #2
Topic Undead will now suffer from age death [ View all ]ZulghinlourSun 18-Oct-09 06:02 PM983
Reply Curiosity regarding the lifespan., Straklaw, 18-Oct-09 05:15 PM, #16
Reply RE: Curiosity regarding the lifespan., Xanthrailles, 18-Oct-09 06:02 PM, #17
Reply My silly question, dalneko, 18-Oct-09 01:23 PM, #12
Reply RE: My silly question, _Magus_, 18-Oct-09 01:50 PM, #13
Reply RE: My silly question, Zulghinlour, 18-Oct-09 03:54 PM, #14
Reply so are they treated like normal by affects and eq that ..., laxman, 17-Oct-09 06:53 AM, #8
Reply Unaffected (n/t), Zulghinlour, 17-Oct-09 10:12 AM, #9
     Reply what about wither? ~, Abernyte, 18-Oct-09 05:55 AM, #10
          Reply RE: what about wither? ~, Isildur, 18-Oct-09 09:13 AM, #11
          Reply Still unaffected (n/t), Zulghinlour, 18-Oct-09 03:54 PM, #15
Reply Finally(small addition), Ahtieli, 16-Oct-09 06:19 AM, #6
Reply RE: Finally(small addition), Cerunnir, 16-Oct-09 10:03 AM, #7
Reply Okay. You win., Iza, 15-Oct-09 11:15 PM, #4
Reply RE: Undead will now suffer from age death, Isildur, 15-Oct-09 10:51 PM, #2
Reply RE: Undead will now suffer from age death, Zulghinlour, 15-Oct-09 11:06 PM, #3
Reply Clap clap, Dwoggurd, 15-Oct-09 10:13 PM, #1
     Reply Don't think he's 40., TMNS, 16-Oct-09 02:55 AM, #5
Topic Immortal alts and praying [ View all ]SusubienkoSun 18-Oct-09 06:57 AM467
Reply RE: Immortal alts and praying, Baerinika, 18-Oct-09 06:57 AM, #3
Reply Personally..., Twist, 14-Oct-09 08:25 AM, #2
Reply I often wondered the same when I saw Baerinka or Rayhin..., Abernyte, 14-Oct-09 02:41 AM, #1
Topic Article 9 of the Paladin Code [ View all ]NMTWSat 17-Oct-09 07:18 AM435
Reply I think you're trolling, Zulghinlour, 17-Oct-09 01:08 AM, #5
Reply What was said below., Java, 16-Oct-09 11:21 PM, #2
Reply Sadly, you're mistaken., Susubienko, 17-Oct-09 07:18 AM, #7
Reply Respect != Obey. n/t, Susubienko, 16-Oct-09 11:11 PM, #1
     Reply bleh -nt-, Mekantos, 17-Oct-09 12:03 AM, #3
     Reply RE: Respect != Obey. n/t, Isildur, 17-Oct-09 12:43 AM, #4
          Reply co-Sign n/t, Grobbak, 17-Oct-09 04:07 AM, #6
Locked Topic Article 9 of the Paladin CodeNMTWSat 17-Oct-09 07:18 AM323
Topic Supplication unmastered [ View all ]AndrianaFri 16-Oct-09 02:23 PM407
Reply RE: Supplication unmastered, Isildur, 16-Oct-09 08:39 AM, #1
     Reply RE: Supplication unmastered, Grudan, 16-Oct-09 09:41 AM, #2
          Reply Act Now!, Quixotic, 16-Oct-09 02:23 PM, #3
Locked Topic Supplication unmasteredAndrianaFri 16-Oct-09 02:23 PM265
Topic No wonder [ View all ]PandaJackFri 16-Oct-09 12:14 PM599
Reply RE: No wonder, thendrell, 14-Oct-09 07:45 AM, #12
Reply RE: No wonder, Daevryn, 13-Oct-09 05:53 PM, #2
Reply RE: No wonder, PandaJack, 13-Oct-09 06:21 PM, #3
     Reply RE: No wonder, Isildur, 13-Oct-09 06:54 PM, #4
          Reply RE: No wonder, PandaJack, 13-Oct-09 07:15 PM, #5
          Reply RE: No wonder, Isildur, 13-Oct-09 07:24 PM, #6
          Reply RE: No wonder, DurNominator, 14-Oct-09 01:15 AM, #7
          Reply RE: No wonder, Rodriguez, 14-Oct-09 02:20 AM, #8
               Reply Actually, ANYONE can take the oath..., Amberion, 14-Oct-09 04:49 AM, #9
                    Reply I thought it got changed quite a while ago..., Rodriguez, 14-Oct-09 06:33 AM, #10
                    Reply RE: I thought it got changed quite a while ago..., Isildur, 14-Oct-09 08:38 AM, #13
                         Reply Sounds good to me. /nt, Rodriguez, 16-Oct-09 12:14 PM, #15
                    Reply Not anyone. Only evil chars now nt, Dervish, 14-Oct-09 06:53 AM, #11
                    Reply Orcs???, NMTW, 15-Oct-09 07:34 PM, #14
Reply RE: No wonder, Isildur, 13-Oct-09 03:55 PM, #1
Topic Monk damage [ View all ]JavaFri 16-Oct-09 05:42 AM399
Reply Though I don't know for sure..., sleepy, 16-Oct-09 01:54 AM, #1
     Reply Actually, Ailen-, 16-Oct-09 05:42 AM, #2
Locked Topic Monk damageJavaFri 16-Oct-09 05:42 AM326
Topic About Avoid [ View all ]Ailen-Thu 15-Oct-09 08:45 PM346
Reply RE: About Avoid, Daevryn, 15-Oct-09 08:45 PM, #1
Topic Wanted to give a shout out. [ View all ]TMNSThu 15-Oct-09 07:36 PM442
Reply Yeah cosign., wareagle, 07-Oct-09 09:09 PM, #1
     Reply Mo-sign, NMTW, 15-Oct-09 07:36 PM, #2
Locked Topic Wanted to give a shout out.TMNSThu 15-Oct-09 07:36 PM308
HOT Topic ABS like Inherants [ View all ]WarMageWed 14-Oct-09 05:05 AM644
Reply You're missing the point., Susubienko, 12-Oct-09 04:16 PM, #1
     Reply RE: You're missing the point., WarMage, 12-Oct-09 05:34 PM, #2
     Reply RE: You're missing the point., Zulghinlour, 12-Oct-09 05:46 PM, #3
          Reply RE: You're missing the point., WarMage, 12-Oct-09 05:55 PM, #4
          Reply Make everyone on the exact same ground!, Iza, 12-Oct-09 08:26 PM, #6
          Reply RE: Make everyone on the exact same ground!, Zulghinlour, 12-Oct-09 08:33 PM, #7
          Reply Think so?, Iza, 12-Oct-09 08:55 PM, #10
               Reply I do., Semaphore, 13-Oct-09 12:40 AM, #14
                    Reply No it wouldn't..., Iza, 13-Oct-09 02:11 AM, #15
                         Reply Really the only problem with this theory, Daevryn, 13-Oct-09 05:51 PM, #19
          Reply RE: Make everyone on the exact same ground!, Isildur, 12-Oct-09 08:49 PM, #9
               Reply The attitude in your assumptions is indicative of what ..., Kadsuane, 12-Oct-09 09:06 PM, #11
               Reply I normally agree with a lot of what you're saying..., TMNS, 12-Oct-09 11:02 PM, #12
                    Reply RE: I normally agree with a lot of what you're saying....., Isildur, 12-Oct-09 11:36 PM, #13
                         Reply They can be assinged there...., Amberion, 13-Oct-09 04:01 PM, #17
                              Reply RE: They can be assinged there...., Isildur, 13-Oct-09 05:32 PM, #18
                              Reply Well, I see it like this:, Amberion, 14-Oct-09 04:58 AM, #22
                              Reply Shoot me an e-mail about which they are, Daevryn, 13-Oct-09 05:56 PM, #20
                                   Reply Hahahaha, Yeah, antrax here I come! n/t, Amberion, 14-Oct-09 05:05 AM, #21
          Reply This is what I liked about my "weird idea" that I menti..., Quixotic, 12-Oct-09 08:49 PM, #8
          Reply I've always wondered, Jhyrbian, 13-Oct-09 04:34 AM, #16
     Reply RE: You're missing the point., Isildur, 12-Oct-09 06:37 PM, #5
Topic Damage Reduction (Not an ABS Rant!) [ View all ]asylumiusTue 13-Oct-09 05:54 PM339
Reply RE: Damage Reduction (Not an ABS Rant!), Daevryn, 13-Oct-09 05:54 PM, #2
Reply As a mage you've got a spell that does this already (n/..., Zulghinlour, 12-Oct-09 10:27 PM, #1
Topic Enlightenment edge question for shifters [ View all ]AuzaarTue 13-Oct-09 05:50 PM273
Reply RE: Enlightenment edge question for shifters, Daevryn, 13-Oct-09 05:50 PM, #2
Reply I believe someone asked this already...and, _Magus_, 13-Oct-09 05:40 PM, #1
Topic cabalwars idea [ View all ]IsildurTue 13-Oct-09 01:34 PM293
Reply RE: cabalwars idea, thendrell, 13-Oct-09 01:34 PM, #1
Topic We have to many cabals. [ View all ]XanthraillesTue 13-Oct-09 07:13 AM525
Reply And thus you have the arena., Quixotic, 12-Oct-09 08:55 PM, #8
Reply RE: And thus you have the arena., Xanthrailles, 12-Oct-09 09:15 PM, #9
     Reply Dude, I did., Quixotic, 12-Oct-09 10:17 PM, #10
          Reply RE: Dude, I did., Xanthrailles, 13-Oct-09 05:34 AM, #11
               Reply Ok, then 'splain., Quixotic, 13-Oct-09 07:13 AM, #12
Reply Sure, I'll just remove them all (n/t), Zulghinlour, 12-Oct-09 07:23 PM, #1
     Reply RE: Sure, I'll just remove them all (n/t), Xanthrailles, 12-Oct-09 08:01 PM, #2
     Reply Nevermind...just wow..., WarMage, 12-Oct-09 08:12 PM, #3
          Reply RE: Nevermind...just wow..., Xanthrailles, 12-Oct-09 08:14 PM, #4
          Reply RE: Nevermind...just wow..., WarMage, 12-Oct-09 08:26 PM, #5
               Reply RE: Nevermind...just wow..., Xanthrailles, 12-Oct-09 08:30 PM, #6
          Reply I spent as much time in my response..., Zulghinlour, 12-Oct-09 08:31 PM, #7
Topic Light Armor Use MaterialsStraklawTue 13-Oct-09 04:32 AM179
Topic Stats on mages from before wand changes and after wand ... [ View all ]laxmanMon 12-Oct-09 06:17 PM490
Reply Your info is biased and so is untrue, Dervish, 11-Oct-09 11:20 PM, #2
Reply It's in the same place as..., Zulghinlour, 11-Oct-09 11:29 PM, #3
     Reply RE: It's in the same place as..., orlando, 12-Oct-09 01:39 AM, #4
     Reply RE: It's in the same place as..., Isildur, 12-Oct-09 09:16 AM, #6
          Reply You totally don't get the point., laxman, 12-Oct-09 04:18 PM, #7
               Reply RE: You totally don't get the point., Isildur, 12-Oct-09 06:17 PM, #8
     Reply RE: It's in the same place as..., Cerunnir, 12-Oct-09 02:33 AM, #5
Reply Re: The stats, Straklaw, 11-Oct-09 07:39 PM, #1
Topic An idea for aura, shield and barrier_Magus_Mon 12-Oct-09 01:36 AM217
Locked Topic is cf dead..... [ View all ]CanadaSun 11-Oct-09 03:58 PM688
Reply RE: is cf dead....., Isildur, 11-Oct-09 03:58 PM, #19
Reply Posts like this...., Abernyte, 10-Oct-09 06:59 AM, #5
Reply Cosign nt, Dervish, 10-Oct-09 08:19 AM, #6
Reply You couldn't be more wrong, camist, 10-Oct-09 08:43 AM, #7
     Reply Productive discussion is good. Whining with no greater ..., Java, 10-Oct-09 10:21 AM, #8
          Reply Whining DOES have a greater purpose., Splntrd, 10-Oct-09 04:32 PM, #9
               Reply Whining's greater purpose., Scrimbul, 10-Oct-09 05:10 PM, #10
               Reply It's not my fault I'm smarter, better looking, taller, ..., Java, 11-Oct-09 02:06 AM, #13
                    Reply Or rather you play paladins that are. :( nt, Scrimbul, 11-Oct-09 02:40 AM, #14
               Reply The problem of declining playerbase.., DurNominator, 11-Oct-09 12:20 AM, #11
               Reply No offense, but that's retarded., Java, 11-Oct-09 02:05 AM, #12
                    Reply Okay, first of all..., Splntrd, 11-Oct-09 11:07 AM, #15
                         Reply Herald improvements...really...that's what's killing us..., Zulghinlour, 11-Oct-09 11:08 AM, #16
                         Reply Cool, how about addressing the entire post? nt, Splntrd, 11-Oct-09 11:11 AM, #17
                         Reply RE: Okay, first of all..., Zulghinlour, 11-Oct-09 11:18 AM, #18
Reply Same happend last year at that time, nothing new... /nt, Rodriguez, 09-Oct-09 12:25 PM, #3
Reply School, Grobbak, 09-Oct-09 02:33 AM, #2
Reply RE: School, Isildur, 09-Oct-09 02:01 PM, #4
Reply RE: is cf dead....., Splntrd, 09-Oct-09 02:10 AM, #1
HOT Locked Topic Please find a new wand straw man: [ View all ]DaevrynSun 11-Oct-09 07:40 AM800
Reply If every suggestion brought up in that thread..., Torak, 10-Oct-09 11:58 PM, #19
Reply If I wanted to listen to you bitch again..., Daevryn, 11-Oct-09 12:37 AM, #21
     Reply Also:, Daevryn, 11-Oct-09 12:41 AM, #22
          Reply We call this a red herring., TMNS, 11-Oct-09 12:51 AM, #23
          Reply RE: We call this a red herring., Daevryn, 11-Oct-09 01:38 AM, #24
               Reply Get with the timeline, Torak, 11-Oct-09 01:53 AM, #25
                    Reply Shut the hell up, sleepy, 11-Oct-09 02:43 AM, #26
                         Reply RE: Shut the hell up, Dervish, 11-Oct-09 03:21 AM, #27
          Reply RE: Also:, Xanthrailles, 11-Oct-09 07:40 AM, #29
Reply just a weird abs idea from a non-mage player, Quixotic, 10-Oct-09 09:18 PM, #16
Reply RE: Please find a new wand straw man:, Semaphore, 10-Oct-09 07:38 PM, #11
Reply You're right, I should just remove ABS and be done with..., Zulghinlour, 10-Oct-09 07:40 PM, #12
     Reply RE: You're right, I should just remove ABS and be done ..., Semaphore, 10-Oct-09 07:49 PM, #13
     Reply I like that idea....and how about..., Lightmage, 10-Oct-09 08:08 PM, #14
     Reply RE: I like that idea....and how about..., Susubienko, 10-Oct-09 08:17 PM, #15
     Reply RE: I like that idea....and how about..., Semaphore, 10-Oct-09 09:37 PM, #17
     Reply Actually...not a bad idea., Kadsuane, 10-Oct-09 11:06 PM, #18
     Reply I want to see this. If only for a week. nt, Scrimbul, 11-Oct-09 12:08 AM, #20
     Reply My take on this, DurNominator, 11-Oct-09 03:53 AM, #28
Reply RE: Please find a new wand straw man:, Kadsuane, 10-Oct-09 03:33 PM, #2
Reply It's true, Mekantos, 10-Oct-09 03:54 PM, #3
     Reply I have a full set of a/b/s, Scrimbul, 10-Oct-09 04:06 PM, #4
     Reply waa waa waa, Susubienko, 10-Oct-09 05:53 PM, #8
          Reply You bring up a good point:, TheDude, 10-Oct-09 06:25 PM, #9
          Reply I by no means have it on a stick., Scrimbul, 10-Oct-09 07:31 PM, #10
     Reply your all half ignorant, laxman, 10-Oct-09 04:02 PM, #5
          Reply By 'melee classes' you mean 'ragers' nt, Scrimbul, 10-Oct-09 04:19 PM, #6
          Reply I already brought this up on Dio's, Mekantos, 10-Oct-09 05:51 PM, #7
Reply This sounds so, so wrong nt, Scrimbul, 10-Oct-09 11:20 AM, #1
Topic The colors! The colors! [ View all ]LhydiaThu 08-Oct-09 07:02 PM494
Reply color off (n/t), Zulghinlour, 08-Oct-09 11:37 AM, #6
Reply And then no damage colors. No thanks, even if they caus..., Lhydia, 08-Oct-09 04:58 PM, #7
Reply To help be more specific, N b M, 08-Oct-09 05:01 PM, #8
     Reply Different people have different pet peeves., Catastrophic, 08-Oct-09 05:19 PM, #9
          Reply Thing is, Dwoggurd, 08-Oct-09 05:42 PM, #10
               Reply RE: Thing is, Cerunnir, 08-Oct-09 06:10 PM, #11
                    Reply RE: Thing is, Isildur, 08-Oct-09 07:02 PM, #12
Reply Yeah you are :( n/t, Kadsuane, 08-Oct-09 11:09 AM, #5
Reply RE: The colors! The colors!, Isildur, 08-Oct-09 10:04 AM, #3
Reply Did you know that I\'m written in C?, Slobodan, 08-Oct-09 08:38 AM, #2
Reply RE: The colors! The colors!, Straklaw, 08-Oct-09 06:33 AM, #1
     Reply I'd like to see Lhydia play CF with color off., Scrimbul, 08-Oct-09 10:07 AM, #4
Topic Shadowdrag [ View all ]StraklawThu 08-Oct-09 11:02 AM345
Reply Come on, don't you see the power?, Torak, 08-Oct-09 11:02 AM, #3
Reply I was surprised that it is by design., wareagle, 07-Oct-09 07:13 PM, #1
     Reply I'm of the same mind. Unaware before, confused now. nt, GinGa, 08-Oct-09 04:46 AM, #2
Topic Look!HalcyonThu 08-Oct-09 02:42 AM231
HOT Topic misses vs. barely scratches [ View all ]ZulghinlourWed 07-Oct-09 11:53 PM1150
Reply Request, let's try again :), Dwoggurd, 04-Oct-09 03:48 AM, #12
Reply RE: Request, let's try again :), DurNominator, 04-Oct-09 07:47 AM, #13
     Reply Re, Dwoggurd, 04-Oct-09 08:10 AM, #14
          Reply RE: Re, DurNominator, 04-Oct-09 08:36 AM, #15
               Reply Christmas Tree?, Torak, 05-Oct-09 03:38 PM, #36
                    Reply RE: Christmas Tree?, DurNominator, 05-Oct-09 10:23 PM, #38
                         Reply I agree., Cerunnir, 05-Oct-09 11:28 PM, #39
                              Reply I think you two are idiots, Dwoggurd, 06-Oct-09 02:14 AM, #40
                                   Reply Re: Prompt, Zulghinlour, 06-Oct-09 02:43 AM, #41
                                   Reply Not good solution, Dwoggurd, 06-Oct-09 02:52 AM, #42
                                        Reply RE: Not good solution, Zulghinlour, 06-Oct-09 11:35 AM, #47
                                             Reply Microsoft to the rescue, Mort, 06-Oct-09 12:30 PM, #48
                                             Reply GA implementation in ROM, Dwoggurd, 06-Oct-09 03:12 PM, #49
                                   Reply Coloring, Cerunnir, 06-Oct-09 05:53 AM, #43
                                   Reply Eh, Dwoggurd, 06-Oct-09 06:16 AM, #44
                                        Reply RE: Eh, Cerunnir, 06-Oct-09 07:37 AM, #45
                                   Reply RE: I think you two are idiots, DurNominator, 06-Oct-09 09:35 AM, #46
Reply RE: misses vs. barely scratches, Isildur, 03-Oct-09 05:38 PM, #3
Reply RE: misses vs. barely scratches, Zulghinlour, 03-Oct-09 06:11 PM, #4
     Reply Fear the massively protected armadillo!, Straklaw, 04-Oct-09 08:56 PM, #20
Reply Damn that's a good idea. (n/t), Daevryn, 03-Oct-09 02:07 PM, #1
     Reply Request, Dwoggurd, 03-Oct-09 05:27 PM, #2
          Reply RE: Request, Zulghinlour, 03-Oct-09 06:11 PM, #5
               Reply Uhm... why?, Dwoggurd, 03-Oct-09 08:20 PM, #6
                    Reply RE: Uhm... why?, Mort, 03-Oct-09 08:48 PM, #7
                    Reply I knew, Dwoggurd, 03-Oct-09 08:54 PM, #8
                         Reply You can make a separate highlight trigger for barely sc..., DurNominator, 04-Oct-09 02:45 AM, #9
                    Reply RE: Uhm... why?, Zulghinlour, 04-Oct-09 02:58 AM, #10
                         Reply What's funny..., Torak, 04-Oct-09 03:47 AM, #11
                              Reply RE: What's funny..., Zulghinlour, 04-Oct-09 09:50 AM, #16
                              Reply Should check it out, Torak, 04-Oct-09 01:00 PM, #17
                              Reply That actually kinda is., dwimmerling, 04-Oct-09 03:44 PM, #18
                              Reply So the basics are..., Zulghinlour, 04-Oct-09 09:11 PM, #21
                                   Reply If this means.., Cerunnir, 04-Oct-09 09:35 PM, #22
                                        Reply Yup...coming to a crash/reboot near you (n/t), Zulghinlour, 04-Oct-09 09:39 PM, #23
                                             Reply Three suggestions you may or may not like., Cerunnir, 04-Oct-09 09:55 PM, #24
                                                  Reply RE: Three suggestions you may or may not like., Daevryn, 04-Oct-09 10:23 PM, #25
                                                  Reply Well there you go :), Cerunnir, 04-Oct-09 10:29 PM, #27
                                                  Reply RE: Three suggestions you may or may not like., Isildur, 04-Oct-09 10:24 PM, #26
                                                  Reply Me too. nt, Java, 04-Oct-09 10:35 PM, #29
                                                  Reply Red! (n/t), Mort, 05-Oct-09 04:11 AM, #31
                                                       Reply Indeed. (n/t), DurNominator, 05-Oct-09 06:02 AM, #32
                                                            Reply RE: Indeed. (n/t), Isildur, 05-Oct-09 08:44 AM, #33
                                                                 Reply You'll learn to change your imperialist ways, comrade!~, Mort, 05-Oct-09 11:58 AM, #34
                                                                      Reply Play it loud and proud, comrade!, Rodriguez, 05-Oct-09 02:16 PM, #35
                                                                           Reply Here's a version with lyrics in it., DurNominator, 05-Oct-09 03:52 PM, #37
                                                  Reply RE: Three suggestions you may or may not like., Zulghinlour, 04-Oct-09 10:34 PM, #28
                                                       Reply RE: Three suggestions you may or may not like., Cerunnir, 04-Oct-09 10:50 PM, #30
                                                       Reply (PK) is now highlighted in red (n/t), Zulghinlour, 07-Oct-09 11:53 PM, #51
                              Reply His highlights are useful., Zephon, 04-Oct-09 08:48 PM, #19
                              Reply No everyone can use it as it's not for a free client., Asthiss, 07-Oct-09 06:21 AM, #50
Topic Interesting? pbf statistic request [ View all ]OdrirgWed 07-Oct-09 08:08 PM289
Reply RE: Interesting? pbf statistic request, Grobbak, 07-Oct-09 08:08 PM, #1