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Pro (inactive user)Wed 26-Jan-05 05:54 PM
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#7049, "Does hand to hand help shifters IN form"


          

Land more attacks?

Cause more damage?

  

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Reply RE: Does hand to hand help shifters IN form, nepenthe, 26-Jan-05 07:44 PM, #1
     Reply RE: Does hand to hand help shifters IN form, Jhishesh, 26-Jan-05 08:42 PM, #2
     Reply RE: Does hand to hand help shifters IN form, nepenthe, 26-Jan-05 09:53 PM, #3
     Reply Not to duispute your (obviously) better understanding o..., Vladamir, 27-Jan-05 02:57 AM, #4
          Reply RE: H2H, Qaledus, 27-Jan-05 12:08 PM, #5
          Reply RE: H2H, Manden, 27-Jan-05 04:49 PM, #6
               Reply RE: H2H, Qaledus, 27-Jan-05 06:46 PM, #7
          Reply RE: Not to duispute your (obviously) better understandi..., nepenthe, 28-Jan-05 01:21 PM, #8
               Reply If it helps any I think it got thrown onto the bug boar..., Vladamir, 28-Jan-05 07:01 PM, #9

nepentheWed 26-Jan-05 07:44 PM
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#7051, "RE: Does hand to hand help shifters IN form"
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I don't think so.

  

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JhisheshWed 26-Jan-05 08:42 PM
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#7052, "RE: Does hand to hand help shifters IN form"
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Would it help them defend against someone fighting them with hand to hand?

  

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nepentheWed 26-Jan-05 09:53 PM
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#7053, "RE: Does hand to hand help shifters IN form"
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I'm not 100% sure but I think it would help a little bit.

  

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VladamirThu 27-Jan-05 02:47 AM
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#7059, "Not to duispute your (obviously) better understanding o..."
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Edited on Thu 27-Jan-05 02:57 AM

          

But as a shifter I have had my H2H go up while in form and fighting. Would this not imply my H@H was being checked for, thus used in some way? I may be totally midunderstanding how it works, I'm not trying to argue, I'm just asking to help me understand.

  

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QaledusThu 27-Jan-05 12:08 PM
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#7072, "RE: H2H"
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>But as a shifter I have had my H2H go up while in form and
>fighting. Would this not imply my H@H was being checked for,
>thus used in some way? I may be totally midunderstanding how
>it works, I'm not trying to argue, I'm just asking to help me
>understand.

That's a fairly recent change and I couldn't say for sure
that it isn't anything more than giving shifters a chance
to improve H2H (in a pretty logical way) without having to
fight out of form to pick up the skill. That in itself is,
well, handy. It could just be that those improvements were
a side affect of the learn-the-weapon-you're-fighting code.

If I had to guess, I'd agree with Nepenthe that any actual
combat help would be on the defensive side, not on the
offensive side.

  

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MandenThu 27-Jan-05 04:49 PM
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#7075, "RE: H2H"
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"It could just be that those improvements were a side affect of the learn-the-weapon-you're-fighting code."

I thought that code applied only to warriors/orcs and didn't include h2h though?

  

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QaledusThu 27-Jan-05 06:46 PM
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#7077, "RE: H2H"
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>"It could just be that those improvements were a side affect
>of the learn-the-weapon-you're-fighting code."
>
>I thought that code applied only to warriors/orcs and didn't
>include h2h though?

Oh, geez. Then that's not it.

  

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nepentheFri 28-Jan-05 01:21 PM
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#7091, "RE: Not to duispute your (obviously) better understandi..."
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Huh. Got me. I'll have to take a better look at it sometime.

That's probably a bug that you can improve H2H, although not one I'll be in a rapid fury to fix. Kind of like the lucky blow punches in form. I blame Cador.

  

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VladamirFri 28-Jan-05 07:01 PM
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#7095, "If it helps any I think it got thrown onto the bug boar..."
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I seem to recall Valg or someone saying it was by design, but I'll be damned if I would swear to it or can remember what reason they gave. I THINK the reply was along the lines of "Well there's no weapon in your paws, is there?" or something.

  

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