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Topic subjectDoes hand to hand help shifters IN form
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7049, Does hand to hand help shifters IN form
Posted by Pro on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Land more attacks?

Cause more damage?
7051, RE: Does hand to hand help shifters IN form
Posted by nepenthe on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I don't think so.
7052, RE: Does hand to hand help shifters IN form
Posted by Jhishesh on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Would it help them defend against someone fighting them with hand to hand?
7053, RE: Does hand to hand help shifters IN form
Posted by nepenthe on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I'm not 100% sure but I think it would help a little bit.
7059, Not to duispute your (obviously) better understanding of the code...
Posted by Vladamir on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
But as a shifter I have had my H2H go up while in form and fighting. Would this not imply my H@H was being checked for, thus used in some way? I may be totally midunderstanding how it works, I'm not trying to argue, I'm just asking to help me understand.

7072, RE: H2H
Posted by Qaledus on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
>But as a shifter I have had my H2H go up while in form and
>fighting. Would this not imply my H@H was being checked for,
>thus used in some way? I may be totally midunderstanding how
>it works, I'm not trying to argue, I'm just asking to help me
>understand.

That's a fairly recent change and I couldn't say for sure
that it isn't anything more than giving shifters a chance
to improve H2H (in a pretty logical way) without having to
fight out of form to pick up the skill. That in itself is,
well, handy. It could just be that those improvements were
a side affect of the learn-the-weapon-you're-fighting code.

If I had to guess, I'd agree with Nepenthe that any actual
combat help would be on the defensive side, not on the
offensive side.
7075, RE: H2H
Posted by Manden on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
"It could just be that those improvements were a side affect of the learn-the-weapon-you're-fighting code."

I thought that code applied only to warriors/orcs and didn't include h2h though?
7077, RE: H2H
Posted by Qaledus on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
>"It could just be that those improvements were a side affect
>of the learn-the-weapon-you're-fighting code."
>
>I thought that code applied only to warriors/orcs and didn't
>include h2h though?

Oh, geez. Then that's not it. :P
7091, RE: Not to duispute your (obviously) better understanding of the code...
Posted by nepenthe on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Huh. Got me. I'll have to take a better look at it sometime.

That's probably a bug that you can improve H2H, although not one I'll be in a rapid fury to fix. Kind of like the lucky blow punches in form. I blame Cador.
7095, If it helps any I think it got thrown onto the bug board a while back.
Posted by Vladamir on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I seem to recall Valg or someone saying it was by design, but I'll be damned if I would swear to it or can remember what reason they gave. I THINK the reply was along the lines of "Well there's no weapon in your paws, is there?" or something.