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#70070, "Help me understand lag associated with the drum skill"
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Here is an edited log with names and prompts removed to protect the innocent. It LOOKS to me like a 5 hit drum not only lagged me for ~2 rounds but also only lagged the drummer for 1.9 rounds (he got another drum off before hurl torso went through). Can someone break down the lagging associated with this skill for me?
prompt removed dash south ham MaceWarrior The Edge of the Feanwyyn Weald Gnarled oaks, maples and elms loom before you in the darkness, their twisted, skeletal branches scraping the darkened sky as they creak and moan with the passage of a chill breeze. The ancient trees grow sparsely here, fading slowly out of sight as they draw further from the comforting glow of your dim light. Sudden rustling and snapping sounds shatter the quiet of the night, conjuring images of creatures best left to childhood nightmares. Thin tendrils of mist cling faintly to the hardwoods in the darkness, wrapping them and you in their chill embrace, filling your lungs with the heavy scent of decay.
MaceWarrior the race is here. A slender elf in a simple green tunic stalks the woods looking for defilers. A massive cloud giant drags two logs behind him as he slowly makes his way towards the river. You swing a dagger in a sweeping blow to MaceWarrior's hamstring! Your hamstring slice MASSACRES MaceWarrior! MaceWarrior has a few scratches.
prompt removed You dodge MaceWarrior's beating. MaceWarrior parries your searing light. MaceWarrior parries your searing light. MaceWarrior parries your searing light. MaceWarrior parries your searing light. MaceWarrior has a few scratches.
prompt removed MaceWarrior drums at you with his maces. MaceWarrior's drumming maces MANGLES you! MaceWarrior's drumming maces EVISCERATES you! MaceWarrior has a few scratches.
prompt removed You dodge MaceWarrior's beating. You dodge MaceWarrior's wrath. You dodge MaceWarrior's beating. MaceWarrior dodges your searing light. MaceWarrior parries your searing light. MaceWarrior has a few scratches.
prompt removed artery You thrust your dagger towards MaceWarrior, attempting to sever his artery! Your deep gash EVISCERATES MaceWarrior! MaceWarrior has some small but disgusting cuts.
prompt removed You dodge MaceWarrior's beating. You dodge MaceWarrior's beating. You dodge MaceWarrior's wrath. MaceWarrior parries your searing light. Your searing light DISMEMBERS MaceWarrior! MaceWarrior parries your searing light. MaceWarrior has some small but disgusting cuts.
prompt removed MaceWarrior drums at you with his maces. MaceWarrior's drumming maces MASSACRES you! MaceWarrior's drumming maces DISMEMBERS you! MaceWarrior's drumming maces MASSACRES you! MaceWarrior's drumming maces DISMEMBERS you! MaceWarrior's drumming maces *** DEVASTATES *** you! MaceWarrior has some small but disgusting cuts.
prompt removed hurl torso
You dodge MaceWarrior's beating and close in for a concealed attack! Your searing light DISMEMBERS MaceWarrior! You dodge MaceWarrior's wrath and close in for a concealed attack! Your searing light EVISCERATES MaceWarrior! MaceWarrior parries your searing light. Your searing light nearly breaks through MaceWarrior's blocking blow. MaceWarrior parries your searing light. MaceWarrior dodges your searing light. MaceWarrior is covered with bleeding wounds.
prompt removed MaceWarrior's beating DISMEMBERS you! You dodge MaceWarrior's wrath and close in for a concealed attack! Your searing light DISMEMBERS MaceWarrior! MaceWarrior parries your searing light. MaceWarrior is covered with bleeding wounds.
prompt removed flee
Weaving through the Flow of Shadows, you avoid MaceWarrior's drum. MaceWarrior is covered with bleeding wounds.
prompt removed flee
MaceWarrior continues to bleed from his wounds. MaceWarrior's bleeding hamstring mauls him. MaceWarrior is covered with bleeding wounds.
prompt removed You hurl a throwing dagger at MaceWarrior striking him square in the chest! A spray of blood erupts from MaceWarrior's wound! Your hurled dagger grazes MaceWarrior. MaceWarrior is covered with bleeding wounds.
prompt removed You dodge MaceWarrior's beating and close in for a concealed attack! Your searing light DISMEMBERS MaceWarrior! MaceWarrior dodges your searing light. MaceWarrior parries your searing light. MaceWarrior is covered with bleeding wounds.
prompt removed You dodge MaceWarrior's beating and close in for a concealed attack! Your searing light DISMEMBERS MaceWarrior! You barely manage to turn MaceWarrior's wrath aside. MaceWarrior parries your searing light. MaceWarrior dodges your searing light. MaceWarrior parries your searing light. MaceWarrior parries your searing light. MaceWarrior parries your searing light. MaceWarrior is covered with bleeding wounds.
prompt removed MaceWarrior drums at you with his maces. MaceWarrior's drumming maces MASSACRES you! Western Outskirts of Galadon Standing at the outskirts of Galadon, you can see the enormous battlements of the city to the east. Tall spires and towers rise high above the wall, glinting in the bright sun. The city stretches for miles to the north and south, one of the largest cities in the realm. The vast Feanwyyn Weald lies off to the west, away from the dirt trail. The forest extends as far north and south as you can see, truly an enormous forest. The old dirt trail continues around the edge of Galadon to the north and south.
You flee from combat!
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5 hit drums lag. They permalag...,
Tac,
12-Mar-18 07:47 PM, #1
Thanks, just didn't know before, I like it! N/T,
No longer confused (Anonymous),
12-Mar-18 08:20 PM, #2
RE: 5 hit drums lag. They permalag...,
MaceWarrior (Anonymous),
12-Mar-18 09:41 PM, #3
That video...,
Twist,
12-Mar-18 11:39 PM, #4
RE: That video...,
MaceWarrior (Anonymous),
13-Mar-18 12:37 AM, #5
Do they, now?,
Murphy,
13-Mar-18 09:15 PM, #6
RE: Do they, now?,
Jarmel,
14-Mar-18 01:24 AM, #7
Yeah but I've never seen drum permalagging,
Murphy,
14-Mar-18 02:10 AM, #8
RE: Yeah but I've never seen drum permalagging,
Jarmel,
14-Mar-18 02:15 AM, #9
Yeah but it's the only one.,
Murphy,
14-Mar-18 05:32 AM, #10
Almost certainly size/str based....,
Tac,
14-Mar-18 09:58 AM, #11
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Tac | Mon 12-Mar-18 07:47 PM |
Member since 15th Nov 2005
2050 posts
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#70071, "5 hit drums lag. They permalag..."
In response to Reply #0
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In that the drummer gets next command.
Seems your understanding is correct, you just didn't know that previously and/or don't like it.
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#70072, "Thanks, just didn't know before, I like it! N/T"
In response to Reply #1
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#70073, "RE: 5 hit drums lag. They permalag..."
In response to Reply #1
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What has been said is correct. A 5 hit drum does 2 and a bit rounds of lag allowing for the mace user to get in the next command.
If you still need some further clarification this educational video may help! The move being largely adapted from this original technique.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nel9hgv54e0
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#70075, "RE: That video..."
In response to Reply #4
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I will concede that your quest for facts in this case is likely more "Accurate"
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Murphy | Tue 13-Mar-18 09:15 PM |
Member since 30th Dec 2010
1639 posts
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#70078, "Do they, now?"
In response to Reply #1
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Murphy | Wed 14-Mar-18 02:10 AM |
Member since 30th Dec 2010
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#70080, "Yeah but I've never seen drum permalagging"
In response to Reply #7
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One round of lag for the opponent, at best.
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Jarmel | Wed 14-Mar-18 02:15 AM |
Member since 19th Jul 2015
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#70081, "RE: Yeah but I've never seen drum permalagging"
In response to Reply #8
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The log topic shows 2 and a bit rounds of lag.
Artery 1 round of lag. 1 round combat. Drum Hurl torso right after drum Two rounds later drum avoided After the avoided skill hurl occurs.
There is your log ðŸ˜
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Murphy | Wed 14-Mar-18 05:32 AM |
Member since 30th Dec 2010
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#70082, "Yeah but it's the only one."
In response to Reply #9
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All others I've seen (and experienced) show drum lagging only for one round.
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Tac | Wed 14-Mar-18 09:58 AM |
Member since 15th Nov 2005
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#70084, "Almost certainly size/str based...."
In response to Reply #10
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In that I don't believe smurf 5 hit drums give you the good stuff, but that could be my own mis-remembering.
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