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Ignolmeer | Thu 06-Jul-17 10:23 PM |
Member since 16th Nov 2016
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#68526, "Fortress Dogma/Promotion Clarification"
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Background taken right out of the Fortress lore:
Acolyte: You are the shield of light. Protect those of the Light, and stand fast against the forces of the Darkness.
The Maran are your brothers, as you protect them, so they protect you. There is no greater strength in Thera than the unity of the Light, do not work against the Maran...but also do not become too much like them.
Guide the squires as well as the scribes. Shepherd them as they walk along the path to the Brigade. Guide their minds and hearts so their eyes are always upon the Light.
Maran:
The Maran stand as protectors of the Light. ....we fight to keep and maintain all that is pure and holy under the Light, pure and holy.
Take great care in what you hunt, and how you hunt. Take care not to become what you hunt, for if you do, you will find the wrath you once called upon... called down upon you.
Walk the path of Light and do not stray. Walk the path tightly, for the fall to either side is long and deadly.
My Translation:
Killing Good PCs/NPCs: Don't kill them, accidently or intentionally. I get that accidents happen in a game. So you get a mulligan - 1 accident kill. Anything after that will be looked at and in most cases you are booted from Fortress.
Atone for being booted: If you don't delete outright from this, you can atone and fight for a second chance. Continue to uphold the character of someone in the Fortress and seek atonement from Ignolmeer or Avderlain. From there, you will go on a crusade. Complete it and you'll earn a place back among the Fortress.
Promotion to Maran/Acolyte:
It's as simple as reaching level 30 or 15 hours in cabal, whichever comes second. Once criteria is met, we'll promote as able.
Questions?
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Do these rules for promotion still apply?,
mage,
18-Dec-17 08:01 PM, #21
No, these are not valid guidelines.,
Destuvius,
18-Dec-17 08:07 PM, #22
I think they were just trying to make the game funner. ...,
Lhydia,
19-Dec-17 08:39 AM, #23
RE: I think they were just trying to make the game funn...,
Rahsael,
19-Dec-17 01:27 PM, #24
RE: I think they were just trying to make the game funn...,
Thaedan (Anonymous),
21-Dec-17 01:09 AM, #25
RE: Fortress Dogma/Promotion Clarification,
Kstatida,
07-Jul-17 04:07 AM, #6
RE: Fortress Dogma/Promotion Clarification,
Ignolmeer,
07-Jul-17 10:40 AM, #15
So....and, not or. Logic!,
Jormyr,
07-Jul-17 08:08 PM, #17
RE: Fortress Dogma/Promotion Clarification,
robdarken_,
07-Jul-17 03:51 AM, #5
RE: Fortress Dogma/Promotion Clarification,
Ignolmeer,
07-Jul-17 10:43 AM, #16
That last part made me fall out of my chair.,
TMNS,
06-Jul-17 10:47 PM, #1
Re Wanted,
Ignolmeer,
06-Jul-17 11:03 PM, #2
RE: Re Wanted,
TMNS,
07-Jul-17 12:28 AM, #3
Just a question,
Jugynheim (NOT Curious),
07-Jul-17 01:10 AM, #4
No animal should be golden aura,
Kstatida,
07-Jul-17 04:09 AM, #7
What about Unicorns?,
The-me,
07-Jul-17 06:29 AM, #8
Despite what you think,
Kstatida,
07-Jul-17 09:18 AM, #11
RE: Despite what you think,
Ignolmeer,
07-Jul-17 09:31 AM, #12
Do you even swing bro?,
The-me,
07-Jul-17 10:16 AM, #14
Re: good aligned animals,
Ignolmeer,
07-Jul-17 07:50 AM, #10
RE: Re Wanted,
The-me,
07-Jul-17 07:40 AM, #9
There are edges for that,
Kstatida,
07-Jul-17 09:42 AM, #13
Right?,
Lhydia,
08-Jul-17 08:03 AM, #18
Doesn't work like that... ,
Ignolmeer,
08-Jul-17 11:28 AM, #19
Oh that clears it up. Thanks. ,
Lhydia,
08-Jul-17 01:23 PM, #20
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mage | Mon 18-Dec-17 08:01 PM |
Member since 05th Apr 2008
248 posts
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#69549, "Do these rules for promotion still apply?"
In response to Reply #0
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Just wondering, since I don't see Ignolmeer on the wizlist anymore, haven't heard anything from Avderlain since I returned to CF, and haven't heard any clarification or update from Korsgaard.
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Lhydia | Tue 19-Dec-17 08:39 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#69552, "I think they were just trying to make the game funner. ..."
In response to Reply #22
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Rahsael | Tue 19-Dec-17 01:27 PM |
Member since 05th May 2017
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#69554, "RE: I think they were just trying to make the game funn..."
In response to Reply #23
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I don't think that makes the game more fun in this case.
There's a balance, I think, between challenge and reward. If you're rewarded without a challenge, it doesn't feel like an achievement - it doesn't have any value or command any respect from others.
If you sign up for Maran and know you'll get bumped up at level 30, becoming a Maran is no longer an achievement. It's just something you feel entitled to.
I think some people have gone overboard in the other direction in the past. No, you shouldn't have to sink 200-300 hours into a character for a Fort promotion (though there are some rare achievements IC that should take at least that long). But it's not something that should be taken for granted, either. Those are my two cents, anyway, as a non-Fort IMM.
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#69572, "RE: I think they were just trying to make the game funn..."
In response to Reply #24
Edited on Thu 21-Dec-17 01:09 AM
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I would set minimum requirements for:
Game hours played Character age in RL Days Game hours since joining Fortress RL days since joining Fortress Character Level # of Evil PKs "Quality of Role Play"
...then promote once all minimum requirements are satisfied. Possible minimum values, without thinking too hard about it:
40 hours 10 days 20 hours 10 days Level 30 10 ePKs "Reasonably Adequate"
Would probably need to be tweaked.
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Kstatida | Fri 07-Jul-17 04:07 AM |
Member since 12th Feb 2015
2214 posts
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#68533, "RE: Fortress Dogma/Promotion Clarification"
In response to Reply #0
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>It's as simple as reaching level 30 or 15 hours in cabal, >whichever comes second. Once criteria is met, we'll promote >as able.
Holy Molly! Maran for 15 hours in cabal? I'm rolling Ishuli's monk.
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Ignolmeer | Fri 07-Jul-17 10:40 AM |
Member since 16th Nov 2016
77 posts
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#68552, "RE: Fortress Dogma/Promotion Clarification"
In response to Reply #6
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Which ever comes second... Overall it should be closer to parallel with other cabals. It's not perfect...
Also easy up comes with an easy out by enforcing the rules as established.
Enjoy your monk!
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Jormyr | Fri 07-Jul-17 08:08 PM |
Member since 31st Dec 2014
422 posts
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#68569, "So....and, not or. Logic!"
In response to Reply #15
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Whichever comes second means both must be met, hence "and". Level 30 *AND* 15 hours in the cabal. I've been doing my best to resist just going in and editing the posts myself for correct logic phrasing, heh.
I meant to post earlier, but apparently CF doesn't allow me to post from my phone.
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Ignolmeer | Fri 07-Jul-17 10:43 AM |
Member since 16th Nov 2016
77 posts
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#68554, "RE: Fortress Dogma/Promotion Clarification"
In response to Reply #5
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They said the only effects would be poor grammar and a subconscious refusal to proofread!
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Ignolmeer | Thu 06-Jul-17 11:03 PM |
Member since 16th Nov 2016
77 posts
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#68528, "Re Wanted"
In response to Reply #1
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I've been handling this IC. The Marshall has issued out a memo written by Talimor on how to get around without stumbling into most guards. I'm working on a more permanent aid.
As far as the risks to being wanted... They'll stand. You choose to be wanted and maintain it, you deal with it. Most noobs don't stay wanted very long anyway.
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TMNS | Fri 07-Jul-17 12:28 AM |
Member since 10th Jun 2009
2670 posts
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#68529, "RE: Re Wanted"
In response to Reply #2
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I agree re: being Wanted. If you do the crime, do the time.
That being said, glad something IC is happening re: weak-ass guards that get slaughtered.
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Jugynheim (NOT Curious) | Fri 07-Jul-17 01:09 AM |
Charter member
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#68530, "Just a question"
In response to Reply #2
Edited on Fri 07-Jul-17 01:10 AM
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There are some instances where you cannot see good aligned mobs that questionably shouldn't be flagged good.
An example. There are owls I believe with the Dire Wolves in a specific woodland area. These owls are of the light, and camouflage if memory serves. Some random lizards are also of the light, though at least they're visible. Are these animals supposed to be lightwalkers or? It's not too hard to accidentally burn through that good aligned mob you couldn't see until it's far too late.
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Kstatida | Fri 07-Jul-17 04:09 AM |
Member since 12th Feb 2015
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#68534, "No animal should be golden aura"
In response to Reply #4
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The-me | Fri 07-Jul-17 06:29 AM |
Member since 14th Jun 2011
333 posts
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#68535, "What about Unicorns?"
In response to Reply #7
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Or is that just the horn?
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Kstatida | Fri 07-Jul-17 09:18 AM |
Member since 12th Feb 2015
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#68541, "Despite what you think"
In response to Reply #8
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Being fond of virgin chicks doesn't make you good
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Ignolmeer | Fri 07-Jul-17 09:31 AM |
Member since 16th Nov 2016
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#68545, "RE: Despite what you think"
In response to Reply #11
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I always thought a unicorn was the single female swinger... Too far? Nah!
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The-me | Fri 07-Jul-17 10:16 AM |
Member since 14th Jun 2011
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#68551, "Do you even swing bro?"
In response to Reply #12
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I am 100% sure there are tons of single female swingers, like you probably would need a lot of alcohol to consider hitting that, but depending on your natural charisma your mileage may vary.
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Ignolmeer | Fri 07-Jul-17 07:50 AM |
Member since 16th Nov 2016
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#68538, "Re: good aligned animals"
In response to Reply #4
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As you come across ones you think shouldn't be good, please, feel free to bug board them and they can be reviewed and possibly updated.
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The-me | Fri 07-Jul-17 07:40 AM |
Member since 14th Jun 2011
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#68537, "RE: Re Wanted"
In response to Reply #2
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Nah all mobs should be affected by the aggro check code the same way a bunch of aggro mobs are currently. If the hero is too high a level the mobs simply dont attack, same for good align mobs vs good wanted criminals.
Galadon, Voralion, Seatryn, Arkham - All have good align guards oh and Balator of course - so basically being a goodie criminal and trying to do anything but die, is quite challenging.
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Kstatida | Fri 07-Jul-17 09:41 AM |
Member since 12th Feb 2015
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#68547, "There are edges for that"
In response to Reply #9
Edited on Fri 07-Jul-17 09:42 AM
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Ignolmeer | Sat 08-Jul-17 11:27 AM |
Member since 16th Nov 2016
77 posts
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#68578, "Doesn't work like that... "
In response to Reply #18
Edited on Sat 08-Jul-17 11:28 AM
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<Pretending to write out why>
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