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#67188, "New Races, New Classes and yes Edge point questions."
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Pixies were mentioned as a race a few years ago. Will they ever be?
Witch Doctors were mentioned as a class for orcs (And now goblins)way back when they came out. Will it be coming in?
Dead horse but the edge point change has knocked my desire to play by an order of magnitude. I sort of need something new to pique my interest I can't maintain a character for long anymore and don't feel like interacting as much as I used to. I liked to customize my characters and the thing I enjoyed most was working toward edges as achievements. I find it to be impossible to build some things I had always wanted to try and never did. I think it is also impossible to get some edges now. The upper end Bird edges and the apiarist edge and the demi-elemental edges come to mind.
There are some very minor edges that I think would be handy if they were automaticly acquired.
Just a couple of examples: 1) Speak With Animals when you hero and master tame or your animal forms. 2) The invoker edge that let's you cast touches in combat whenever you have mastered a path. (For that path at least)
And finally, with Baerinika gone are custom race class combo's still possible?
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RE: New Races, New Classes and yes Edge point questions...,
Scarabaeus,
27-Feb-17 04:16 PM, #3
Nice!,
Goblin lover (Anonymous),
27-Feb-17 05:08 PM, #7
I think saurian would be a sensible summer race.,
East_Rd_Trucker,
01-Mar-17 12:43 PM, #10
Ysigrath races,
Scarabaeus,
02-Mar-17 05:44 PM, #16
Saurian ideas. ,
East_Rd_Trucker,
04-Mar-17 06:48 AM, #21
I wasn't asking for new edges.,
East_Rd_Trucker,
01-Mar-17 12:52 PM, #13
Re: Pixies. They are not tiny in game.,
East_Rd_Trucker,
02-Mar-17 12:03 AM, #14
tiny,
Scarabaeus,
02-Mar-17 05:43 PM, #15
I for one have been waiting for these little guys for e...,
East_Rd_Trucker,
02-Mar-17 06:50 PM, #17
tiny equipment,
Scarabaeus,
03-Mar-17 04:34 PM, #18
I would imagine they are more an RP race than anything ...,
East_Rd_Trucker,
03-Mar-17 06:51 PM, #20
RE: New Races, New Classes and yes Edge point questions...,
Isildur,
27-Feb-17 04:11 PM, #2
You can't go back in time.,
Java,
27-Feb-17 04:39 PM, #4
Nice!,
Goblin lover (Anonymous),
27-Feb-17 05:07 PM, #6
This is exactly it.,
East_Rd_Trucker,
01-Mar-17 12:46 PM, #12
One key point you are forgetting,
Bemused,
27-Feb-17 04:43 PM, #5
I've heard people say this a couple of times...,
jalbrin,
28-Feb-17 01:54 AM, #8
RE: I've heard people say this a couple of times...,
Bemused,
28-Feb-17 05:58 PM, #9
You can get an idea of what got nerfed by looking at ed...,
-flso,
03-Mar-17 06:31 PM, #19
Pretty sure that's just perception.,
Jormyr,
04-Mar-17 12:02 PM, #22
Example: Cloud of wasps/mosquitos did get nerfed,
-flso,
04-Mar-17 09:09 PM, #23
RE: New Races, New Classes and yes Edge point questions...,
East_Rd_Trucker,
01-Mar-17 12:45 PM, #11
Honestly..,
Tronimal,
27-Feb-17 04:06 PM, #1
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#67197, "Nice!"
In response to Reply #3
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May I volunteer for the artificer testing?
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#67228, "I think saurian would be a sensible summer race."
In response to Reply #3
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And I would like to see that race be Troglodyte. Just because of their inherent Stink Spray. That has a few nice effects.
And how would you pick beta testers for Artificers? I'm intereste d.
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#67329, "Saurian ideas. "
In response to Reply #16
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I'm not saying to use all or even some.
Slower metabolism (permanent survivalist effect).
Natural -AC affect. Essentially a the -armor spell.
Inherent ability to ingest/regurgitate spoils exactly like the orc skill.
Heal faster during day light then at night. (Mmmm lizard on a sunny rock mmmm)
Natural swimmer like Storm Giants but must draw breath.
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#67231, "I wasn't asking for new edges."
In response to Reply #3
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I was saying the new edge change has all but killed my desire to play. I litterally start to play, realize I won't be able to do what I want and delete. I have not hero'd since the change and I have had many heroes.
Nothing interests me about having a generic character.
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#67244, "Re: Pixies. They are not tiny in game."
In response to Reply #3
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They are the same size as gnomes. Are they supposed to be tiny?
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#67281, "I for one have been waiting for these little guys for e..."
In response to Reply #15
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Seriously. I have had a name ready for several years now.
I know nothing about code but it seems odd that the size would be the thing that messed with them. Couldn't you give them a permanent Dimunition effect?
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#67321, "I would imagine they are more an RP race than anything ..."
In response to Reply #18
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A druid_like restriction.
They cant wear armor unless its cloth or spidersilk like in the weavers cave south of Galadon.
And if they had a very low strength cap (10?) That would sort of naturally limit their wields and wears.
Also...maybe no wear on or wear about armor unless specific to pixies without losing fly. (If CF pixies fly)
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Java | Mon 27-Feb-17 04:39 PM |
Member since 07th Apr 2003
1055 posts
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#67194, "You can't go back in time."
In response to Reply #2
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That would be like saying "The game was great before legacies were introduced. You don't need them to have fun, so don't complain when we take them away."
Yeah, it was great before. Then it improved. Customization is a big deal. The more customization you can do, the more fun the game is for most people. Edges were a way to customize your character.
We got used to that level of customization. Then it got taken away. Taking away something that was fun, without replacing it with something that's as (or more) fun is a net loss. Ultimately, the change in edges made the game less fun.
Less fun doesn't equal no fun. The game is still fun, sure. It's still a great game that takes way too much of our time. But it's less fun than it used to be.
To answer your other question, I think it's fun to "earn" those edge points. I have no problem walking through Organia with every character "farming" edge points, just as I have no problem killing my ten-thousandth greater troll in order to level up. You do something vaguely repetitive because it makes your character stronger. That isn't a bad thing, it's the nature of the game.
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#67196, "Nice!"
In response to Reply #4
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May I volunteer for the Artificer testing?
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#67230, "This is exactly it."
In response to Reply #4
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Bemused | Mon 27-Feb-17 04:43 PM |
Member since 15th Oct 2013
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#67195, "One key point you are forgetting"
In response to Reply #2
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Quite a number of class skills were nerfed with the introduction of edges and the edges get the class skill back to where it used to be pre nerf.
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jalbrin | Tue 28-Feb-17 01:54 AM |
Member since 20th Apr 2009
211 posts
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#67201, "I've heard people say this a couple of times..."
In response to Reply #5
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I've never heard of it. Where are you getting that information? What are some examples of skills that were nerfed when edges came in?
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Bemused | Tue 28-Feb-17 05:58 PM |
Member since 15th Oct 2013
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#67217, "RE: I've heard people say this a couple of times..."
In response to Reply #8
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Lots of muter and conjurer spells got the shaft. It's safe to say most other classes were affected similarly.
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-flso | Fri 03-Mar-17 06:31 PM |
Member since 02nd Oct 2007
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#67320, "You can get an idea of what got nerfed by looking at ed..."
In response to Reply #8
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skills.
There is a ####ton of skills affected. Many of them arguably useless or fun-sapping without the edge.
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Jormyr | Sat 04-Mar-17 12:02 PM |
Member since 31st Dec 2014
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#67336, "Pretty sure that's just perception."
In response to Reply #19
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Otherwise, you're talking like 70% of all useful abilities. I think more that you (and others) have just gotten used to picking certain "boost" edges so often that you've readjusted your perception of "normal" as being the edge-boosted level. I always have the trouble of never deciding what I want, so rarely picked edges, and I've never noticed any difference for the most part.
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-flso | Sat 04-Mar-17 09:07 PM |
Member since 02nd Oct 2007
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#67360, "Example: Cloud of wasps/mosquitos did get nerfed"
In response to Reply #22
Edited on Sat 04-Mar-17 09:09 PM
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and they get some, not all, of the way back to how they used to be via the edge.
Of course the perception thing is a factor too, but there have been plenty of nerfs (not necessarily at the same time the relevant edges were introduced) that were later re-visited through edges.
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#67229, "RE: New Races, New Classes and yes Edge point questions..."
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I explained myself in the post. Read it.
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