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OnewingedangelSun 27-Nov-16 02:08 AM
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#65599, "Question regarding evade."


          

I understand coders are short right now (with departure of Umiron), but I THINK (capitalize think becuase I'm only partially sure) Scar has a bit of experience with it.

But since evade checks before EVERYTHING, I feel that we might need a small change, so it checks if someone can see someone before evade checks, ie ambush and piercing gaze. It was a recent log of a ranger trying to ambush emperor, and it checked the evade first, so it started the combat which got him killed. (Now I don't know everything regarding background, maybe Empire didn't have codex, so take this with a grain of salt). As some who's best midbie PK class is ranger, I know how frustrating that can be, someone who can see you.

  

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Reply RE: Question regarding evade., Umiron, 27-Nov-16 10:05 AM, #10
Reply Well, 90% of the time rangers use waylay, Murphy, 27-Nov-16 05:54 PM, #11
Reply How do you know the Emperor had piercing up?, FormerEmp (Anonymous), 27-Nov-16 08:17 AM, #9
Reply This, Kstatida, 28-Nov-16 07:07 AM, #12
Reply I agree so hard..., Onewingedangel, 28-Nov-16 12:31 PM, #13
Reply You say that as if it's a bad thing., Murphy, 27-Nov-16 03:21 AM, #3
Reply I know it's something to learn from.., Onewingedangel, 27-Nov-16 03:25 AM, #4
Reply It's been discussed to death., Murphy, 27-Nov-16 03:32 AM, #7
     Reply Didn't realize it had already been discussed and stuff...., Onewingedangel, 27-Nov-16 04:08 AM, #8
Reply I half meant to reply to sam with that other post....NT, Onewingedangel, 27-Nov-16 03:30 AM, #6
Reply Look, if opponents can evade skills you can't possibly ..., TMNS, 27-Nov-16 03:21 AM, #2
Reply RE: Question regarding evade., incognito, 27-Nov-16 02:55 AM, #1
     Reply idk..., Onewingedangel, 27-Nov-16 03:29 AM, #5

UmironSun 27-Nov-16 10:05 AM
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#65610, "RE: Question regarding evade."
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It should be easy enough to designate certain combat-initiating skills to bail earlier if the victim can't see the attacker, or at the very least provide a special case for ambush. I imagine the way things work is just an oversight or whoever implemented evade didn't particularly care that rangers wouldn't always get the free "don't bother, they can see you" safety check as it were.

  

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MurphySun 27-Nov-16 05:54 PM
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#65613, "Well, 90% of the time rangers use waylay"
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and it then begins combat whether the victim can see the ranger or not.

  

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FormerEmp (Anonymous)Sun 27-Nov-16 08:17 AM
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#65608, "How do you know the Emperor had piercing up?"
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Regardless of that the bigger issue here is that someone snared should lack the movement to evade anything.

  

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KstatidaMon 28-Nov-16 07:07 AM
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#65628, "This"
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Constrained, sleeping, KO = no evade.

  

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OnewingedangelMon 28-Nov-16 12:31 PM
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#65631, "I agree so hard..."
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So, so hard.

  

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MurphySun 27-Nov-16 03:21 AM
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#65602, "You say that as if it's a bad thing."
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Yes, it got him killed, so what? Something to learn from.

  

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OnewingedangelSun 27-Nov-16 03:25 AM
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#65603, "I know it's something to learn from.."
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but I also know the code can be terrible to work with (I've dabbled a bit in C++). But I also wanted to bring to their attention, in case it is by design or just a weird working of code, and even if they can't change it, it's ok. I didn't want it to sound like whining, even it if it might of (I'm also pretty drunk right now.) So yeah, all that.

  

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MurphySun 27-Nov-16 03:32 AM
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#65606, "It's been discussed to death."
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Difficult to fix and not worth the effort.

  

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OnewingedangelSun 27-Nov-16 04:08 AM
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#65607, "Didn't realize it had already been discussed and stuff...."
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NT

  

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OnewingedangelSun 27-Nov-16 03:30 AM
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#65605, "I half meant to reply to sam with that other post....NT"
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NT

  

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TMNSSun 27-Nov-16 03:21 AM
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#65601, "Look, if opponents can evade skills you can't possibly ..."
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...the code is probably some terrible horrific nightmare that I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.

  

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incognitoSun 27-Nov-16 02:55 AM
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#65600, "RE: Question regarding evade."
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Think you are meant to be able to evade that stuff. Just rare. Consider it light feeling to motion or noticing a change in the light, so you move.

  

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OnewingedangelSun 27-Nov-16 03:29 AM
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#65604, "idk..."
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It seems odd, though. I personally feel it should check if they can see you first...but that's just my personal feeling. I'd love to hear the Imms input on this.

  

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