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Dormok (Anonymous)Sun 29-May-16 10:18 AM
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#63671, "bard songs and cabal guardians"


          

Can an imm confirm whether or not bard healing songs affect cabal guardians? I've sang myself through all of my mana over and over and not seen one change in the guardian's health description.

  

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Reply They don't and it's easy to test out., Murphy, 29-May-16 11:10 AM, #2
Reply This is correct, and:, Umiron, 29-May-16 01:51 PM, #3
Reply They do, laxman, 29-May-16 11:01 AM, #1
     Reply RE: They do, lasentia, 01-Jun-16 09:06 AM, #4
          Reply I"m quite sure they healed cabal guardians, Kstatida, 01-Jun-16 09:33 AM, #5
               Reply I'm pretty sure they didn't, silat, 01-Jun-16 09:55 AM, #6
               Reply This is true, Kstatida, 01-Jun-16 11:50 AM, #7
               Reply This. It didn't work before changes either, Murphy, 01-Jun-16 09:40 PM, #9
               Reply You're thinking of prayers, lasentia, 01-Jun-16 12:55 PM, #8

MurphySun 29-May-16 11:10 AM
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#63673, "They don't and it's easy to test out."
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Sing a bagatelle in front of your (unhurt) cabal guard, look at it and notice it now has a few scratches. That's because its max health just went up 100-150 from your song.

Now sing all your mana on elven agadio and look at it again. Still a few scratches.

Buff songs (anthem, bagatelle, etc) affect them. Healing does not.

  

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UmironSun 29-May-16 01:51 PM
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#63674, "This is correct, and:"
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Furthermore, healing songs don't heal any NPCs at all.

  

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laxmanSun 29-May-16 11:01 AM
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#63672, "They do"
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Keep in mind cabal mobs have like ten times the HP of a PC. Those 40-60 hp a pop songs won't easily change the verbose health descriptor

  

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lasentiaWed 01-Jun-16 09:06 AM
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#63728, "RE: They do"
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Actually, I think they never did as long as I have played. I remember trying with allysia in maybe 2010 to heal the nexus guardian, and it never worked. You can actually just end up healing the people beating on your guardian when you do it, since they are impacted by your healing songs, just to a far smaller degree.

Same goes for your own mercs and stuff, they are impacted by the prep songs, but not the healing.

  

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KstatidaWed 01-Jun-16 09:33 AM
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#63729, "I"m quite sure they healed cabal guardians"
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because same cabal. All healing w/o cooldowns stopped affecting mobs in a rather recent update though. Zargu was upset.

  

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silatWed 01-Jun-16 09:55 AM
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#63730, "I'm pretty sure they didn't"
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Edited on Wed 01-Jun-16 09:55 AM

          

Because, you know, like lasentia, I played bards back then and actually tried it. Whereas you just like to speculate, you know-it-all

  

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KstatidaWed 01-Jun-16 11:50 AM
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#63731, "This is true"
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I do prefer "theorize" term though

  

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MurphyWed 01-Jun-16 09:40 PM
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#63733, "This. It didn't work before changes either"
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NT

  

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lasentiaWed 01-Jun-16 12:55 PM
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#63732, "You're thinking of prayers"
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Pallies, druids, healers used to be able to spam heal on a guardian, but that is what got changed. Bard songs never worked.
Things like herbs, first aid and altruism still work, but in general the ability to heal guardians is rather limited in most cabals. Basically no sup works, skills/cabal powers do. I think maybe the transmuter spell still works too.

  

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