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GrifterWed 04-May-16 08:50 AM
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#63565, "Code Changes? "


          

Could we please go back to publishing code changes? It feels like game is changing significantly and it would be nice to know when material changes impact our experience.

  

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Reply RE: Code Changes? , Umiron, 04-May-16 02:13 PM, #1
     Reply RE: Code Changes? , Assassin (Anonymous), 04-May-16 02:49 PM, #2
          Reply I don't think this is new., robdarken_, 04-May-16 04:30 PM, #3
          Reply You're right. , Lhydia, 04-May-16 05:09 PM, #5
               Reply RE: You're right. , Assassin (Anonymous), 04-May-16 05:27 PM, #6
               Reply RE: You're right. , Destuvius, 04-May-16 05:32 PM, #7
               Reply Which reminds me of why I love Valg. Link inside., Jormyr, 04-May-16 05:57 PM, #8
               Reply Umiron isn't invested enough in gameplay itself to lie ..., Lhydia, 04-May-16 05:57 PM, #9
               Reply RE: Edges., Umiron, 04-May-16 07:14 PM, #11
          Reply RE: Code Changes? , Umiron, 04-May-16 04:39 PM, #4
          Reply RE: Your Forum Ban, Umiron, 04-May-16 07:09 PM, #10

UmironWed 04-May-16 02:13 PM
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#63568, "RE: Code Changes? "
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> It feels like game is changing significantly ...

Every change we ordinarily would have published on the code changes forum (i.e., not new progs for unreleased areas, bug fixes go on their own forum, etc.) has been.

Which is to say it's been slow lately.

  

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Assassin (Anonymous)Wed 04-May-16 02:49 PM
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#63569, "RE: Code Changes? "
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Somehow I fail to see the nerf to chance of successful vanish from combat there. Or would you play Daevryn here with shove vs nightwalkers or crushing legacy never changed?

  

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robdarken_Wed 04-May-16 04:30 PM
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#63570, "I don't think this is new."
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Vanish has sucked in combat for as long as I can remember. In 2011 I remember it working maybe 1/5 times.

  

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LhydiaWed 04-May-16 05:09 PM
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#63573, "You're right. "
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They nerfed vanish a long time ago, pretty sure Zulg made the announcement.

The only time vanish is reliable to get out of combat with is when you take 2 specific edges for it. I use it for stalking/travel purposes only and carry orbs of travel if I need to get out of combat.

Likely it will fail you when you need it most...UNLESS you have the edges.

I really miss the days of assassinate/vanish where you vanish before the first round of combat goes through on a miss once the % is high enough. =( UMIRON FIX IT BACK PLZ I WILL BUY U PBF

  

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Assassin (Anonymous)Wed 04-May-16 05:27 PM
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#63574, "RE: You're right. "
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I have the edge and I used to vanish from fights 9/10. Now it's 1/10. But yeah code just changed itself.

Btw I don't mind the nerfage. Assassins sure got too much power. I just don't like that nothing was changed thing.

  

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DestuviusWed 04-May-16 05:32 PM
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#63575, "RE: You're right. "
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RNG can be a fickle bitch sometimes. It doesn't mean its a conspiracy.

  

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JormyrWed 04-May-16 05:57 PM
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#63576, "Which reminds me of why I love Valg. Link inside."
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http://forums.carrionfields.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=6&topic_id=15806&mesg_id=15806&listing_type=search

One of the Valg posts that has always stuck out in my head. Now if I can just find that one by Daevryn about roleplay and your enemies being the "bad guy". *mutter*

  

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LhydiaWed 04-May-16 05:57 PM
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#63577, "Umiron isn't invested enough in gameplay itself to lie ..."
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Trouble like that comes when you have a shaky moral compass, like to win, hate most players, and feel entitled to reap the benefits of your work without following the rules.

  

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UmironWed 04-May-16 07:12 PM
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#63583, "RE: Edges."
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Edited on Wed 04-May-16 07:14 PM

          

There are no assassin edges that specifically modify vanish during combat. However, there are edges that just flat make vanish better.

The effect I imagine people are noticing is that being in combat reduces the effectiveness of vanish while certain edges increase it (in or out of combat). The sum of the two in play together is that vanish works better in combat if you have certain edges because vanish just works better with edges.

EDIT: None of this changes the fact that the only lines of code in vanish that have changed since at least 2010 are three lines related to attempting to vanish while trussed.

  

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UmironWed 04-May-16 04:39 PM
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#63572, "RE: Code Changes? "
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I don't know what you're talking about, but vanish hasn't changed since at least 2010 which is as far back as our VCS goes.

  

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UmironWed 04-May-16 07:09 PM
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#63582, "RE: Your Forum Ban"
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Your IP was previously banned from the forums (I don't know when or why). You've been using proxies to circumvent your ban, so I've disabled your account. If you wish to appeal your ban please email imps@carrionfields.com.

  

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