Something I proposed long ago -

make black circles an object that can be destroyed. it would add a valid tactic instead of just trying to RTFA only to be yo-yo'd back and forth.

Sorry, you exhausted all your requesting about savage blow. Maybe in 2016 you can try to ask for more.

Also, thats a joke for anyone who missed it.

no one answering? no problem, still asking!

I have more cachet than Dallevian so I'll ask a different question:

Does black circle modify the lag on summoner/summoned or does it only make summoning more likely to succeed?

In the past when I've been summoned by someone with a circle I've noticed that I get exactly *one* command before the summoner's next command goes through. Is that "normal" summon behavior or is it one of the benefits of the circle?

Casting summon is 1 round of lag.

Being summoned into a black circle is 1 round of lag.

I honestly don't know if that shakes out to consistent behavior or not.

From what I've noticed the summoned person always gets "first command" after being summoned into a black circle. But only by a nose. You get exactly *one* command (assuming the summoner also entered a command right after the summon).

Just curious if its the same situation for "normal" summon (i.e. no circle).

Meaning you get 1 round to do stuff. Maybe 2? I would have sworn summon was 2 rounds without circle.

And boosts the success rate of summoning. By anyone who summons from
The black circle room, not just the one that made the circle.

Normal summon doesn't lag the victim.

The only advantage of normal summon is that you don't have to take the time to make the circle.

Can you still ask your group mate to walk you into the area half way through creating the circle to reduce the chance of being seen? If so I think is the only change I would make to black circle.

Can you try and picture it happening? Some dude drawing a circle on the ground and getting hauled away mid drawing to a separate spot.. that'd be a funky "circle".

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Got slept after summon to the black circle when my first command was moving out correctly right after the summon. Might be dependent on the veil?

If you were on the move, or checking where, might your first command have been different to the first thing you entered after being summoned?

Was the person who summoned you the same person that slept you?

Were you laggy?

Did your command definitely go in after you were slept?

Not saying you are wrong but I've never seen proof of black circle working how you describe. There's a reason why sodsob sometimes had someone else along to lag the person he summoned to a black circle.

1. Well, could be, can't say I'm 100% sure. My impression at the time was definitely not "oh hell I killed myself spamming commands", it was "BC is BS, couldn't have my 1st command in", so my judgment is based on impression rather than on research.
2. Yes
3. No
4. Yes

Don't know what to tell you but I've been around a lot of black circles in my time and it's always the same situation as if you'd tripped someone - they get one and exactly one chance to react. If you spam one direction too many that's it, they get next command.