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Serial Paladin (Anonymous)Fri 07-Aug-15 06:33 PM
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#60317, "Would it be possible to change Veterans Insight?"


          

It would be awesome if it worked with Avoid.... That in mind, can the virtues be looked at in general, I know there are a few other skills in them that fire off Parry, which Monks don't use....

  

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Reply Having laid waste to (I think) all of the hero monks fo..., Gromm (Anonymous), 10-Aug-15 03:35 AM, #7
Reply Umm, avoid seems pretty effective already, incognito, 08-Aug-15 01:57 AM, #1
     Reply I went through my logs as Sindrir, Athioles, 08-Aug-15 03:36 AM, #2
     Reply The good thing about avoid is that they can only choose..., kolb, 08-Aug-15 05:00 AM, #3
          Reply You're thinking of anticipate not avoid , Athioles, 08-Aug-15 05:12 AM, #4
     Reply Forgot to mention, incognito, 08-Aug-15 10:36 AM, #5
          Reply RE: Forgot to mention, Serial pally (Anonymous), 08-Aug-15 12:50 PM, #6

Gromm (Anonymous)Mon 10-Aug-15 03:35 AM
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#60326, "Having laid waste to (I think) all of the hero monks fo..."
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I don't think monks need any better defense than they do now, the defense is ridiculously good as it is.

  

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incognitoSat 08-Aug-15 01:57 AM
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#60318, "Umm, avoid seems pretty effective already"
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Depending on your race.

Don't forget the other paladin flavours are more reliant on parry.

  

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AthiolesSat 08-Aug-15 03:36 AM
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#60320, "I went through my logs as Sindrir"
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Of the five monks I fought they avoided axes 85% of the time. I don't think they need any more juice. They were by far the most frustrating class I fought against.

  

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kolbSat 08-Aug-15 05:00 AM
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#60321, "The good thing about avoid is that they can only choose..."
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If you use axes it's pretty much gonna be pincer sure, but that means they aren't avoiding bash. Having multiple options is always better. Avoid is really their only one sans champion stand. And even that is easily played around. I fought more than my share of monks. Between lash, cranial, trip or bash I had pretty much little problem.

  

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AthiolesSat 08-Aug-15 05:12 AM
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#60322, "You're thinking of anticipate not avoid "
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Avoid stopped melee strikes, over 85% of them over a dozen fights.

  

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incognitoSat 08-Aug-15 10:36 AM
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#60324, "Forgot to mention"
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Avoid is akin to dodge and dodge works against weapons you don't know.

  

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Serial pally (Anonymous)Sat 08-Aug-15 12:47 PM
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Edited on Sat 08-Aug-15 12:50 PM

          

I have played a lot of monks, avoid takes dex and I think wis into consideration for sure, but it also takes weapon knowledge percentages into consideration, I asked that a long time ago with one of my first monks.

  

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