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Aufang (Anonymous)Wed 15-Jul-15 10:06 AM
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#60082, "Protection Question"


          

Is there any sort of way to predict or influence what kind of protection (evil or good) you get as a neutral when you use a protection prep?

It just seems random to me.

  

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Reply RE: Protection Question, ANotherPlayer, 17-Jul-15 07:00 AM, #17
Reply That's vanguard, incognito, 17-Jul-15 10:59 AM, #19
     Reply nope, talking about protection, ANotherPlayer, 17-Jul-15 12:20 PM, #20
          Reply Your imagination. (nt), Umiron, 17-Jul-15 12:27 PM, #21
Reply I never quite understood why..., Calion, 15-Jul-15 12:19 PM, #8
Reply RE: Protection Spell, Umiron, 15-Jul-15 11:05 AM, #4
Reply RE: Protection Question, Verathi, 15-Jul-15 10:49 AM, #3
Reply Protection is pointless on a neutral, Bemused, 15-Jul-15 10:16 AM, #1
     Reply RE: Protection is pointless on a neutral, Isildur, 15-Jul-15 10:38 AM, #2
     Reply You are wrong.nt, Aereglen, 15-Jul-15 11:39 AM, #5
     Reply That's so very wrong, lasentia, 15-Jul-15 11:54 AM, #6
     Reply So is that :P, Tsunami, 15-Jul-15 11:59 AM, #7
          Reply Leave it to an Imm to know the truth, lasentia, 16-Jul-15 07:03 AM, #13
     Reply I guess I missed that memo, Bemused, 16-Jul-15 12:19 AM, #9
          Reply It's acted this way as long as I have played the game n..., Rayihn, 16-Jul-15 05:51 AM, #10
               Reply Yeah its always been this way. n/t, Lhydia, 16-Jul-15 06:18 AM, #11
               Reply Pretty sure it was changed to the current random effect..., Cenatar_, 16-Jul-15 06:49 AM, #12
                    Reply Yeah, this. n/t, Calion, 16-Jul-15 08:32 AM, #14
               Reply RE: It's acted this way as long as I have played the ga..., Isildur, 16-Jul-15 11:38 AM, #15
                    Reply Too mean to die!, Rayihn, 17-Jul-15 05:44 AM, #16
                         Reply RE: Too mean to die!, Isildur, 17-Jul-15 07:03 AM, #18

ANotherPlayerFri 17-Jul-15 07:00 AM
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#60112, "RE: Protection Question"
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With my nexun I got the impression it was linked to the balance in the world. However it was backwards to me. It seemed when evil was strong I would get protection from good and vice versa.
Probably is random.

  

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incognitoFri 17-Jul-15 10:59 AM
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#60125, "That's vanguard"
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Not protection, iirc.

It also works according to the law chaos balance too.

  

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ANotherPlayerFri 17-Jul-15 12:20 PM
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#60128, "nope, talking about protection"
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When you quaff a protection potion it will tell you if you feel protected from evil or from good. It seemed to me when evil was strong I was getting protected from good and vice versa. I am not saying there is a connection just that it felt like there might be. In fact I stopped using protection because I would not be fighting good creatures when evil is strong.

  

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UmironFri 17-Jul-15 12:27 PM
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#60129, "Your imagination. (nt)"
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nt

  

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CalionWed 15-Jul-15 12:19 PM
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#60090, "I never quite understood why..."
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...it was changed back in the day to work on neutrals, so that they got additional protection vs. good or evil, while the good or evil guys got nothing in return vs. neutral. Esp. given the powergamer tendency to choose a neutral alignment (when possible) to bypass enemies' protection ability (and now they might even get this protection for themselves against these enemies, depending on circumstances).

But at least it's good to hear that neutrals don't get the full 25% benefit.

  

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UmironWed 15-Jul-15 11:05 AM
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#60086, "RE: Protection Spell"
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As a neutral it's a 50/50 proposition.

Protection from good/evil works just fine on neutrals, though they get slightly less reduction.

  

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VerathiWed 15-Jul-15 10:49 AM
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#60085, "RE: Protection Question"
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As far as I am aware, there isn't a way to predict/influence it. I believe it is intended to act like this on purpose, because while you can get lucky and get the protection you want your good/evil opponent will never get protection vs neutral.

  

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BemusedWed 15-Jul-15 10:16 AM
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#60083, "Protection is pointless on a neutral"
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It doesn't give you any resistance.

  

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IsildurWed 15-Jul-15 10:38 AM
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#60084, "RE: Protection is pointless on a neutral"
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That wasn't my understanding of how it worked.

  

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AereglenWed 15-Jul-15 11:39 AM
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#60087, "You are wrong.nt"
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nt

  

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lasentiaWed 15-Jul-15 11:54 AM
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#60088, "That's so very wrong"
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Protection evil is protection evil. Same with good.
Which is what you get on a neutral, either good or evil.
Be it on a good or neutral, I suppose you could have it on an evil too. (Evils can get the anti-hero edge that does while still being evil I think)

It grants the same dam redux in all cases.

  

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TsunamiWed 15-Jul-15 11:59 AM
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#60089, "So is that :P"
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http://forums.carrionfields.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=6&topic_id=60082&mesg_id=60086&page=

They get slightly less reduction.

  

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lasentiaThu 16-Jul-15 07:03 AM
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#60100, "Leave it to an Imm to know the truth"
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I have to say I never noticed a difference in the dam redux amount.
I wonder if I could use a healer to test the dam reduction numbers by having my protections interfere with a set 100 hp heal.

I can't imagine it's much different. Maybe 20% instead of 25%.

  

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BemusedThu 16-Jul-15 12:19 AM
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#60096, "I guess I missed that memo"
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It USED to never do anything. Which makes sense since good/evil cannot get prot vs neutral.

Now it doesn't make sense and in actual fact it is quite retarded. When that change was made?

  

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RayihnThu 16-Jul-15 05:51 AM
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#60097, "It's acted this way as long as I have played the game n..."
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So over a decade.

  

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LhydiaThu 16-Jul-15 06:18 AM
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#60098, "Yeah its always been this way. n/t"
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gr

  

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Cenatar_Thu 16-Jul-15 06:49 AM
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#60099, "Pretty sure it was changed to the current random effect..."
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I think around first iteration of Nexus?

  

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CalionThu 16-Jul-15 08:32 AM
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#60102, "Yeah, this. n/t"
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IsildurThu 16-Jul-15 11:38 AM
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#60103, "RE: It's acted this way as long as I have played the ga..."
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Hey, you're still alive?

  

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RayihnFri 17-Jul-15 05:44 AM
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#60110, "Too mean to die!"
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But yes I'm absolutely still alive. I still play fairly regularly, I've just cut it back a bit to focus on some other priorities in life.

  

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IsildurFri 17-Jul-15 07:03 AM
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#60113, "RE: Too mean to die!"
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Pah. Children shmildren.

  

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