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#60082, "Protection Question"
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Is there any sort of way to predict or influence what kind of protection (evil or good) you get as a neutral when you use a protection prep?
It just seems random to me.
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RE: Protection Question,
ANotherPlayer,
17-Jul-15 07:00 AM, #17
That's vanguard,
incognito,
17-Jul-15 10:59 AM, #19
nope, talking about protection,
ANotherPlayer,
17-Jul-15 12:20 PM, #20
Your imagination. (nt),
Umiron,
17-Jul-15 12:27 PM, #21
I never quite understood why...,
Calion,
15-Jul-15 12:19 PM, #8
RE: Protection Spell,
Umiron,
15-Jul-15 11:05 AM, #4
RE: Protection Question,
Verathi,
15-Jul-15 10:49 AM, #3
Protection is pointless on a neutral,
Bemused,
15-Jul-15 10:16 AM, #1
RE: Protection is pointless on a neutral,
Isildur,
15-Jul-15 10:38 AM, #2
You are wrong.nt,
Aereglen,
15-Jul-15 11:39 AM, #5
That's so very wrong,
lasentia,
15-Jul-15 11:54 AM, #6
So is that :P,
Tsunami,
15-Jul-15 11:59 AM, #7
Leave it to an Imm to know the truth,
lasentia,
16-Jul-15 07:03 AM, #13
I guess I missed that memo,
Bemused,
16-Jul-15 12:19 AM, #9
It's acted this way as long as I have played the game n...,
Rayihn,
16-Jul-15 05:51 AM, #10
Yeah its always been this way. n/t,
Lhydia,
16-Jul-15 06:18 AM, #11
Pretty sure it was changed to the current random effect...,
Cenatar_,
16-Jul-15 06:49 AM, #12
Yeah, this. n/t,
Calion,
16-Jul-15 08:32 AM, #14
RE: It's acted this way as long as I have played the ga...,
Isildur,
16-Jul-15 11:38 AM, #15
Too mean to die!,
Rayihn,
17-Jul-15 05:44 AM, #16
RE: Too mean to die!,
Isildur,
17-Jul-15 07:03 AM, #18
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ANotherPlayer | Fri 17-Jul-15 07:00 AM |
Member since 17th Mar 2006
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#60112, "RE: Protection Question"
In response to Reply #0
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With my nexun I got the impression it was linked to the balance in the world. However it was backwards to me. It seemed when evil was strong I would get protection from good and vice versa. Probably is random.
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incognito | Fri 17-Jul-15 10:59 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
4495 posts
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#60125, "That's vanguard"
In response to Reply #17
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Not protection, iirc.
It also works according to the law chaos balance too.
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ANotherPlayer | Fri 17-Jul-15 12:20 PM |
Member since 17th Mar 2006
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#60128, "nope, talking about protection"
In response to Reply #19
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When you quaff a protection potion it will tell you if you feel protected from evil or from good. It seemed to me when evil was strong I was getting protected from good and vice versa. I am not saying there is a connection just that it felt like there might be. In fact I stopped using protection because I would not be fighting good creatures when evil is strong.
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Umiron | Fri 17-Jul-15 12:27 PM |
Member since 29th May 2017
1499 posts
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#60129, "Your imagination. (nt)"
In response to Reply #20
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Calion | Wed 15-Jul-15 12:19 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
367 posts
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#60090, "I never quite understood why..."
In response to Reply #0
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...it was changed back in the day to work on neutrals, so that they got additional protection vs. good or evil, while the good or evil guys got nothing in return vs. neutral. Esp. given the powergamer tendency to choose a neutral alignment (when possible) to bypass enemies' protection ability (and now they might even get this protection for themselves against these enemies, depending on circumstances).
But at least it's good to hear that neutrals don't get the full 25% benefit.
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Umiron | Wed 15-Jul-15 11:05 AM |
Member since 29th May 2017
1499 posts
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#60086, "RE: Protection Spell"
In response to Reply #0
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As a neutral it's a 50/50 proposition.
Protection from good/evil works just fine on neutrals, though they get slightly less reduction.
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Verathi | Wed 15-Jul-15 10:49 AM |
Member since 10th Dec 2014
92 posts
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#60085, "RE: Protection Question"
In response to Reply #0
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As far as I am aware, there isn't a way to predict/influence it. I believe it is intended to act like this on purpose, because while you can get lucky and get the protection you want your good/evil opponent will never get protection vs neutral.
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Bemused | Wed 15-Jul-15 10:16 AM |
Member since 15th Oct 2013
665 posts
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#60083, "Protection is pointless on a neutral"
In response to Reply #0
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It doesn't give you any resistance.
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Aereglen | Wed 15-Jul-15 11:39 AM |
Member since 23rd Apr 2011
476 posts
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#60087, "You are wrong.nt"
In response to Reply #1
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lasentia | Wed 15-Jul-15 11:54 AM |
Member since 27th Apr 2010
987 posts
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#60088, "That's so very wrong"
In response to Reply #1
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Protection evil is protection evil. Same with good. Which is what you get on a neutral, either good or evil. Be it on a good or neutral, I suppose you could have it on an evil too. (Evils can get the anti-hero edge that does while still being evil I think)
It grants the same dam redux in all cases.
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Tsunami | Wed 15-Jul-15 11:59 AM |
Member since 25th Mar 2008
1509 posts
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#60089, "So is that :P"
In response to Reply #6
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lasentia | Thu 16-Jul-15 07:03 AM |
Member since 27th Apr 2010
987 posts
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#60100, "Leave it to an Imm to know the truth"
In response to Reply #7
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I have to say I never noticed a difference in the dam redux amount. I wonder if I could use a healer to test the dam reduction numbers by having my protections interfere with a set 100 hp heal.
I can't imagine it's much different. Maybe 20% instead of 25%.
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Bemused | Thu 16-Jul-15 12:19 AM |
Member since 15th Oct 2013
665 posts
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#60096, "I guess I missed that memo"
In response to Reply #1
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It USED to never do anything. Which makes sense since good/evil cannot get prot vs neutral.
Now it doesn't make sense and in actual fact it is quite retarded. When that change was made?
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Rayihn | Thu 16-Jul-15 05:51 AM |
Member since 08th Oct 2006
1147 posts
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#60097, "It's acted this way as long as I have played the game n..."
In response to Reply #9
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Lhydia | Thu 16-Jul-15 06:18 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
2391 posts
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#60098, "Yeah its always been this way. n/t"
In response to Reply #10
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Cenatar_ | Thu 16-Jul-15 06:49 AM |
Member since 08th Jan 2006
85 posts
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#60099, "Pretty sure it was changed to the current random effect..."
In response to Reply #11
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I think around first iteration of Nexus?
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Calion | Thu 16-Jul-15 08:32 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
367 posts
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#60102, "Yeah, this. n/t"
In response to Reply #12
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Rayihn | Fri 17-Jul-15 05:44 AM |
Member since 08th Oct 2006
1147 posts
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#60110, "Too mean to die!"
In response to Reply #15
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But yes I'm absolutely still alive. I still play fairly regularly, I've just cut it back a bit to focus on some other priorities in life.
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