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rulanitTue 28-Sep-04 04:34 PM
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#5970, "Question about Spin...."


          

Heres a cut from a log I have with a lion, and it only seems to be affected by feline forms. just wondering if Its not set up right to spin away claws.


<909/909hp 388/438m 782/797mv> outdoor - civilized - 6 AM
imp lion
You impale a lion on a four-pronged trident!
You hear the loud roar of a lion.
Your impalement EVISCERATES a lion!
A lion has a few scratches.

<909/909hp 388/438m 782/797mv> outdoor - civilized - 6 AM
The Nightwalker has arrived.
You yell 'Help! I'm being attacked by the Nightwalker!'
Your defensive spin deflects the Nightwalker's claw.
The Nightwalker's claw injures you.
A lion has a few scratches.

<896/909hp 388/438m 782/797mv> outdoor - civilized - 6 AM
Demenius has arrived.
Telryn has arrived.
A lion has a few scratches.

<896/909hp 388/438m 782/797mv> outdoor - civilized - 6 AM
Demenius leaves west.
Telryn leaves.
A lion has a few scratches.

<896/909hp 388/438m 782/797mv> outdoor - civilized - 6 AM
A lion rakes his claws across your body.
A lion's raking claws DISMEMBERS you!
A lion's raking claws DISMEMBERS you!
A lion has a few scratches.

<786/909hp 388/438m 782/797mv> outdoor - civilized - 6 AM
You dodge the Nightwalker's claw.
You parry the Nightwalker's claw.
Your stab devastates a lion!
Your stab devastates a lion!
You parry a lion's claw.
A lion's claw EVISCERATES you!
A lion's claw MUTILATES you!
Your defensive spin deflects a lion's claw.
A lion has a few scratches.

<699/909hp 388/438m 782/797mv> outdoor - civilized - 6 AM
wie hammer
wie scepter
bone

You parry the Nightwalker's claw.
You parry the Nightwalker's claw.
Your stab decimates a lion!
You parry a lion's claw.
A lion's claw EVISCERATES you!
Your defensive spin deflects a lion's claw.
A lion has a few scratches.

My question is, when I can spin rams charges why can I not spin more of the lions claws?

thanks.

  

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Reply Working as designed. (n/t), nepenthe, 28-Sep-04 05:35 PM, #1
     Reply Honestly from a gamplay sense, why is this?, Shadowmaster, 28-Sep-04 11:44 PM, #2
          Reply Uhh, because they don't want you spending hundreds of h..., Vladamir, 28-Sep-04 11:51 PM, #3
          Reply RE: Honestly from a gamplay sense, why is this?, Pendragon_Surtr, 29-Sep-04 02:17 AM, #4
          Reply Thats just it though., Shadowmaster, 29-Sep-04 08:26 PM, #6
               Reply Easy explanation:, vargal, 29-Sep-04 08:53 PM, #7
               Reply Same reason a 3 ft gnome can kick dirt in a 15 ft tall ..., Theerkla, 29-Sep-04 09:05 PM, #8
          Reply I agree with Vlad and Pen's responses. :p, nepenthe, 29-Sep-04 07:16 AM, #5
               Reply well...., rulanit, 06-Oct-04 08:17 PM, #9
                    Reply RE: well...., Valguarnera, 06-Oct-04 09:13 PM, #10
                    Reply RE: well...., nepenthe, 06-Oct-04 10:12 PM, #11
                         Reply RE: well...., rulanit, 10-Oct-04 02:48 PM, #12

nepentheTue 28-Sep-04 05:35 PM
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#5971, "Working as designed. (n/t)"
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Note that the lion's rake is unblockable. The rest of the attacks you have your chance against.

  

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ShadowmasterTue 28-Sep-04 11:44 PM
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#5974, "Honestly from a gamplay sense, why is this?"
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Why do players spend 100's of hours perfecting defenses and not get hit by any normal attacks only to be hit by 'unblockable' ones.

  

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VladamirTue 28-Sep-04 11:51 PM
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#5975, "Uhh, because they don't want you spending hundreds of h..."
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nt

  

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Pendragon_SurtrWed 29-Sep-04 02:17 AM
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#5980, "RE: Honestly from a gamplay sense, why is this?"
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>Why do players spend 100's of hours perfecting defenses and
>not get hit by any normal attacks only to be hit by
>'unblockable' ones.

By the same token, that spear/staff spec can't 'spin' away from a pincer, cranial, bash, trip or any other command input by the user. Consider 'rake' to be on par with 'pincer'.

  

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ShadowmasterWed 29-Sep-04 08:26 PM
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#5999, "Thats just it though."
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"By the same token, that spear/staff spec can't 'spin' away from a pincer, cranial, bash, trip or any other command input by the user."

If they are dodging these axes 99/100 times, why does slamming them together make it so much harder to avoid?

  

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vargalWed 29-Sep-04 08:53 PM
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#6000, "Easy explanation:"
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Surprise!

  

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TheerklaWed 29-Sep-04 09:05 PM
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#6001, "Same reason a 3 ft gnome can kick dirt in a 15 ft tall ..."
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Game balance. Pretty much as simple as that, suspend disbelief.

  

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nepentheWed 29-Sep-04 07:16 AM
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#5983, "I agree with Vlad and Pen's responses. :p"
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rulanitWed 06-Oct-04 08:17 PM
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#6035, "well...."
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What Im saying is that, if a ram's charge is considered a weapon that warriors know, then why aren't claws considered hand to hand? Just a bit confused on how this is balanced. I would think you either know them or you don't.

  

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ValguarneraWed 06-Oct-04 09:13 PM
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#6037, "RE: well...."
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You can parry a lion's (or any form's) normal attacks. Special maneuvers (a lion's rake, a ram's butting, a warrior bashing you) cannot be parried. I don't see any of that changing.

valguarnera@carrionfields.com

  

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nepentheWed 06-Oct-04 10:12 PM
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#6039, "RE: well...."
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>What Im saying is that, if a ram's charge is considered a
>weapon that warriors know,

I know I didn't say that that was true.

  

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rulanitSun 10-Oct-04 02:48 PM
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#6062, "RE: well...."
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but you didn't say it wasn't either. Im not talking about rake. Im talking about round for round attacks. A ram will get maybe 1 in when I wield a spear, yet the lion avg 2-3 a round. Just a bit discouraging is all. Sorry for the confusion.

  

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