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5970, Question about Spin....
Posted by rulanit on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Heres a cut from a log I have with a lion, and it only seems to be affected by feline forms. just wondering if Its not set up right to spin away claws.


<909/909hp 388/438m 782/797mv> outdoor - civilized - 6 AM
imp lion
You impale a lion on a four-pronged trident!
You hear the loud roar of a lion.
Your impalement EVISCERATES a lion!
A lion has a few scratches.

<909/909hp 388/438m 782/797mv> outdoor - civilized - 6 AM
The Nightwalker has arrived.
You yell 'Help! I'm being attacked by the Nightwalker!'
Your defensive spin deflects the Nightwalker's claw.
The Nightwalker's claw injures you.
A lion has a few scratches.

<896/909hp 388/438m 782/797mv> outdoor - civilized - 6 AM
Demenius has arrived.
Telryn has arrived.
A lion has a few scratches.

<896/909hp 388/438m 782/797mv> outdoor - civilized - 6 AM
Demenius leaves west.
Telryn leaves.
A lion has a few scratches.

<896/909hp 388/438m 782/797mv> outdoor - civilized - 6 AM
A lion rakes his claws across your body.
A lion's raking claws DISMEMBERS you!
A lion's raking claws DISMEMBERS you!
A lion has a few scratches.

<786/909hp 388/438m 782/797mv> outdoor - civilized - 6 AM
You dodge the Nightwalker's claw.
You parry the Nightwalker's claw.
Your stab devastates a lion!
Your stab devastates a lion!
You parry a lion's claw.
A lion's claw EVISCERATES you!
A lion's claw MUTILATES you!
Your defensive spin deflects a lion's claw.
A lion has a few scratches.

<699/909hp 388/438m 782/797mv> outdoor - civilized - 6 AM
wie hammer
wie scepter
bone

You parry the Nightwalker's claw.
You parry the Nightwalker's claw.
Your stab decimates a lion!
You parry a lion's claw.
A lion's claw EVISCERATES you!
Your defensive spin deflects a lion's claw.
A lion has a few scratches.

My question is, when I can spin rams charges why can I not spin more of the lions claws?

thanks.
5971, Working as designed. (n/t)
Posted by nepenthe on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Note that the lion's rake is unblockable. The rest of the attacks you have your chance against.
5974, Honestly from a gamplay sense, why is this?
Posted by Shadowmaster on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Why do players spend 100's of hours perfecting defenses and not get hit by any normal attacks only to be hit by 'unblockable' ones.
5975, Uhh, because they don't want you spending hundreds of hours mastering junk?
Posted by Vladamir on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
nt
5980, RE: Honestly from a gamplay sense, why is this?
Posted by Pendragon_Surtr on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
>Why do players spend 100's of hours perfecting defenses and
>not get hit by any normal attacks only to be hit by
>'unblockable' ones.

By the same token, that spear/staff spec can't 'spin' away from a pincer, cranial, bash, trip or any other command input by the user. Consider 'rake' to be on par with 'pincer'.
5999, Thats just it though.
Posted by Shadowmaster on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
"By the same token, that spear/staff spec can't 'spin' away from a pincer, cranial, bash, trip or any other command input by the user."

If they are dodging these axes 99/100 times, why does slamming them together make it so much harder to avoid?
6000, Easy explanation:
Posted by vargal on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Surprise!
6001, Same reason a 3 ft gnome can kick dirt in a 15 ft tall giant's eyes
Posted by Theerkla on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Game balance. Pretty much as simple as that, suspend disbelief.
5983, I agree with Vlad and Pen's responses. :p
Posted by nepenthe on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
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6035, well....
Posted by rulanit on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
What Im saying is that, if a ram's charge is considered a weapon that warriors know, then why aren't claws considered hand to hand? Just a bit confused on how this is balanced. I would think you either know them or you don't.

6037, RE: well....
Posted by Valguarnera on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
You can parry a lion's (or any form's) normal attacks. Special maneuvers (a lion's rake, a ram's butting, a warrior bashing you) cannot be parried. I don't see any of that changing.

valguarnera@carrionfields.com
6039, RE: well....
Posted by nepenthe on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
>What Im saying is that, if a ram's charge is considered a
>weapon that warriors know,

I know I didn't say that that was true.
6062, RE: well....
Posted by rulanit on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
but you didn't say it wasn't either. Im not talking about rake. Im talking about round for round attacks. A ram will get maybe 1 in when I wield a spear, yet the lion avg 2-3 a round. Just a bit discouraging is all. Sorry for the confusion.