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Helfinu (Anonymous)Sat 02-Aug-14 03:41 PM
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#56143, "Taking a break until thief poisons can be cured using "CURE POISON".."
Edited on Sat 02-Aug-14 03:42 PM

          

I mean it is CURE MOTHER ####ING POISON! How can it cure magical and divine poisons easily but a concocted mind/fear poison is not curable?

Drops mic

ALSO: Guardians of the Galaxy was hilarious.

  

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Reply Posting threads as your active character is not smart., Valguarnera, 03-Aug-14 09:22 AM, #12
Reply bro. do you even lift? nt, Dallevian, 03-Aug-14 09:32 AM, #13
Reply Bro. BRO! Do you know who he is?, TMNS, 03-Aug-14 10:33 AM, #14
Reply RE: Posting threads as your active character is not sma..., Brian S, 03-Aug-14 11:09 AM, #15
Reply Help "Reject Toxins" (n/t), Daevryn, 03-Aug-14 11:44 AM, #16
Reply Valid - point dropped. n/t, Helfinu (Anonymous), 03-Aug-14 01:58 PM, #17
Reply Are you giving up your leader spot?, sezdral, 02-Aug-14 07:16 PM, #3
Reply Hope so, incognito, 03-Aug-14 02:35 AM, #9
Reply RE: Taking a break until thief poisons can be cured usi..., Daevryn, 02-Aug-14 06:38 PM, #2
Reply Speaking of which., Scrimbul, 02-Aug-14 10:22 PM, #4
Reply By that logic., Helfinu (Anonymous), 02-Aug-14 11:05 PM, #5
     Reply Poisons cost gold and prep time., Artificial, 02-Aug-14 11:47 PM, #6
     Reply I don't think that is what he was getting at., Perpetual_Noob, 02-Aug-14 11:50 PM, #7
          Reply RE: I don't think that is what he was getting at., Jaegendar, 03-Aug-14 12:34 AM, #8
               Reply I was agreeing with Artifical there., Perpetual_Noob, 03-Aug-14 02:58 AM, #10
     Reply RE: By that logic., Daevryn, 03-Aug-14 07:58 AM, #11
          Reply You lost me - but I concede. , Helfinu (Anonymous), 03-Aug-14 01:59 PM, #18
Reply Play a mundugunu orc instead of shaman...., Vonzamir, 02-Aug-14 04:02 PM, #1

ValguarneraSun 03-Aug-14 09:22 AM
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#56155, "Posting threads as your active character is not smart."
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Particularly if the point of the thread is to campaign for an upgrade to said character.

Play a poisoner thief sometime. See if you still think everyone should be able to cure the majority of your major class abilities with a single, low-level ability that is also on town healers.

valguarnera@carrionfields.com

  

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DallevianSun 03-Aug-14 09:32 AM
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#56156, "bro. do you even lift? nt"
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nt

  

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TMNSSun 03-Aug-14 10:33 AM
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#56157, "Bro. BRO! Do you know who he is?"
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He benches like 250.

  

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Brian SSun 03-Aug-14 11:09 AM
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#56158, "RE: Posting threads as your active character is not sma..."
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I understand how making cure poison able to cure poisoner thieves poison is a bit overpowered, especially considering all of the various means of curing poison (Pills, potions, healers, etc.)

Maybe as a compromise though, for characters that do have the cure poison supplication, spell, etc., allow a high cost edge that will cure a thieves poisons, but it only works on that character. Or maybe a medium cost edge to cure one type of poison. IE: You can learn to cure fear poison along with standard poisons, but a poisoner thief will still have a variety of other poisons it can affect you with. So if you are having that much difficulty with a poisoner thief, those that can cure poison naturally will have an option if they wish to take it of getting rid of the poison.

  

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DaevrynSun 03-Aug-14 11:44 AM
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#56159, "Help "Reject Toxins" (n/t)"
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But alas for Outlander shaman.

  

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Helfinu (Anonymous)Sun 03-Aug-14 01:58 PM
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#56160, "Valid - point dropped. n/t"
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n/t

  

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sezdralSat 02-Aug-14 07:16 PM
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#56146, "Are you giving up your leader spot?"
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Since I dont think that's going to get changed any time soon.

  

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incognitoSun 03-Aug-14 02:34 AM
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#56152, "Hope so"
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Edited on Sun 03-Aug-14 02:35 AM

          

Deleted this expression of "what is scion coming to"?

  

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DaevrynSat 02-Aug-14 06:38 PM
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#56145, "RE: Taking a break until thief poisons can be cured usi..."
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Not a lot of point to playing poisoner if quaff return; heal poison was guaranteed to fix everything they can do.

  

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ScrimbulSat 02-Aug-14 10:20 PM
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#56147, "Speaking of which."
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Edited on Sat 02-Aug-14 10:22 PM

  

          

You can't poison a return potion with drink poison.

You CAN poison it with contact poison, but it doesn't actually accomplish anything.

Since you fixed them poisoning ghosts, can you at least let contact poison ruin potions?

There are a lot of veteran players that won't die without exhorbitant effort except by emetically poisoning their return/teleport potion and forcing them to use it. Chiefly people using spammable dam redux or some type of slow.

  

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Helfinu (Anonymous)Sat 02-Aug-14 11:04 PM
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#56148, "By that logic."
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Edited on Sat 02-Aug-14 11:05 PM

          

Why bother with diseases if you can just quaff return; cure disease them?

Why Both with blinding someone if the can just quaff return; heal it?

Why bother with any malediction because they can "quaff return; wait out timers?

Why bother with attacking someone if they can just quaff return and heal?

Why bother playing a shaman because it can all be cured (except damnation) at a healer?

Why bother playing a Necromancer because it can all be cured at a healer?

Why bother to bother?


  

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ArtificialSat 02-Aug-14 11:47 PM
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#56149, "Poisons cost gold and prep time."
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Return potions are a small investment relative to this. All other ones of those are "free."

  

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Perpetual_NoobSat 02-Aug-14 11:49 PM
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#56150, "I don't think that is what he was getting at."
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Edited on Sat 02-Aug-14 11:50 PM

          

But perhaps it falls on deaf ears. They see is one way and we all see it another way.

  

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JaegendarSun 03-Aug-14 12:34 AM
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#56151, "RE: I don't think that is what he was getting at."
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>But perhaps it falls on deaf ears. They see is one way and
>we all see it another way.

I hate when someone tries to speak for "everyone".

Basically what you are asking is to be able to negate everything one specialized class can do with ONE CHEAP SPELL.

Noone would roll a poisoner thief anymore.

  

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Perpetual_NoobSun 03-Aug-14 02:58 AM
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#56153, "I was agreeing with Artifical there."
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Perhaps I should have said Helfinu sees it one way... to make the THEY more clear.

  

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DaevrynSun 03-Aug-14 07:58 AM
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#56154, "RE: By that logic."
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That's not logic, and if you actually think about your question for five minutes you'll understand why.

  

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Helfinu (Anonymous)Sun 03-Aug-14 01:59 PM
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#56161, "You lost me - but I concede. "
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Frustrations amplify annoyances. I'll deal with it.

  

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VonzamirSat 02-Aug-14 04:02 PM
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#56144, "Play a mundugunu orc instead of shaman...."
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pretty sure Gravenap will take care of it. Also, outlanders have something that I suspect might help with it, although keeping it on hand could be a bit problematic.

  

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