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incognito | Tue 29-Apr-14 07:17 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
4495 posts
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#54959, "Racial max luck"
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Would imms be willing to share racial maxes for luck?
I've always felt that certain races feel unlucky relative to others.
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Now the real question is:,
Mort,
30-Apr-14 01:50 AM, #7
RE: Now the real question is:,
N b M,
30-Apr-14 07:34 PM, #11
Where are you getting this from?,
Valguarnera,
30-Apr-14 08:15 PM, #12
So, like, you know, you could say what the truth is.,
TMNS,
30-Apr-14 11:23 PM, #13
RE: Speculation,
Valguarnera,
01-May-14 09:12 AM, #16
I may have the answer,
laxman,
01-May-14 11:52 AM, #17
RE: I may have the answer,
Daevryn,
01-May-14 05:30 PM, #18
So just curious...,
Anti-Hero,
01-May-14 10:29 PM, #20
RE: So just curious...,
Daevryn,
02-May-14 05:47 PM, #21
Cool thanks for the clarity. Useful to know. nt,
Anti-Hero,
03-May-14 12:07 AM, #22
Makes sense. ,
TMNS,
03-May-14 01:57 AM, #23
RE: Now the real question is:,
Daevryn,
01-May-14 07:03 AM, #14
How about characters with a name starting with 'S',
Sarien,
01-May-14 08:04 AM, #15
The 'S' is for sucks.,
Zephon,
01-May-14 08:07 PM, #19
Classes... not races. (n/t),
N b M,
29-Apr-14 10:26 AM, #3
RE: Racial max luck,
Daevryn,
29-Apr-14 10:00 AM, #2
Same question for classes then,
incognito,
29-Apr-14 12:18 PM, #4
RE: Same question for classes then,
Daevryn,
29-Apr-14 04:35 PM, #6
What muter and bard skills even use luck?,
KaguMaru,
30-Apr-14 04:57 AM, #8
No!,
incognito,
30-Apr-14 11:19 AM, #9
Certain classes get a bonus to luck,
N b M,
30-Apr-14 11:49 AM, #10
Don't conflate the 'luck' stat with actual luck. Not th...,
KaguMaru,
29-Apr-14 07:29 AM, #1
I know this nt,
incognito,
29-Apr-14 12:19 PM, #5
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Mort | Wed 30-Apr-14 01:50 AM |
Member since 23rd Jan 2006
194 posts
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#54966, "Now the real question is:"
In response to Reply #0
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Does every race have the same roll when the luck stat is chosen at creation? For instance does an elf have better luck than a fire giant on average?
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N b M | Wed 30-Apr-14 07:34 PM |
Member since 29th Sep 2005
444 posts
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#54971, "RE: Now the real question is:"
In response to Reply #7
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Classes,
Thieves and bards get a bonus, not sure about the rest.
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Valguarnera | Wed 30-Apr-14 08:15 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
6904 posts
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#54972, "Where are you getting this from?"
In response to Reply #11
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TMNS | Wed 30-Apr-14 11:23 PM |
Member since 10th Jun 2009
2670 posts
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#54973, "So, like, you know, you could say what the truth is."
In response to Reply #12
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Or you could be you (whom I love, mostly though for your fantasy baseball excellence) and just you know, tell people they are wrong and not say why.
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laxman | Thu 01-May-14 11:52 AM |
Member since 18th Aug 2003
1867 posts
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#54978, "I may have the answer"
In response to Reply #16
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I believe it was in one of those santa zulg threads that it was mentioned some classes have a higher luck stat when they roll up than others but it was still a little random.
NBM may be confusing starting stat with max stat.
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Daevryn | Thu 01-May-14 05:30 PM |
Member since 13th Feb 2007
11117 posts
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#54981, "RE: I may have the answer"
In response to Reply #17
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> it was mentioned some classes have a higher luck stat when they roll up
For what it's worth, to the best of my knowledge this even isn't true and has never been true.
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Anti-Hero | Thu 01-May-14 10:29 PM |
Member since 19th Sep 2013
64 posts
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#54983, "So just curious..."
In response to Reply #18
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All races and classes roll up with the exact same luck stat no matter what, and it is only modified by holding/wearing certain items and the lucky edge?
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Daevryn | Fri 02-May-14 05:47 PM |
Member since 13th Feb 2007
11117 posts
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#54985, "RE: So just curious..."
In response to Reply #20
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At the risk of seeming vague earlier in retrospect, now that's a slightly different question.
Your starting luck is based partly on your stats, with lower stats generally being better (for luck purposes) than high ones. In some ways this is an artifact of stat rolling -- as a poor consolation prize you would get a slightly higher luck if you took a crappy role. Which, to be absolutely clear, is never something I would have done on purpose, since even the least useful stat for your class (e.g. dex on fire a-p) is still in my opinion at least as useful to you overall as luck.
With the last change to stat rolling putting everyone on a pretty even ground in terms of "goodness" of stats, at this point everyone's luck should be pretty close.
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Anti-Hero | Sat 03-May-14 12:07 AM |
Member since 19th Sep 2013
64 posts
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#54989, "Cool thanks for the clarity. Useful to know. nt"
In response to Reply #21
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TMNS | Sat 03-May-14 01:57 AM |
Member since 10th Jun 2009
2670 posts
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#54992, "Makes sense. "
In response to Reply #21
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The best character re: luck; as in skills that are tangibly, though minorly, influenced by luck such as charge, pincer, etc was a character I took the very first roll offered (though it was a decent roll).
Not that it mattered much (if any) but I definitely noticed getting more "seizing upon a lucky moment" or whatever the echo is.
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Daevryn | Thu 01-May-14 07:03 AM |
Member since 13th Feb 2007
11117 posts
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#54974, "RE: Now the real question is:"
In response to Reply #11
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There isn't a class based bonus for any class.
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Zephon | Thu 01-May-14 08:07 PM |
Member since 21st Mar 2007
488 posts
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#54982, "The 'S' is for sucks."
In response to Reply #15
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N b M | Tue 29-Apr-14 10:26 AM |
Member since 29th Sep 2005
444 posts
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#54962, "Classes... not races. (n/t)"
In response to Reply #0
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Daevryn | Tue 29-Apr-14 10:00 AM |
Member since 13th Feb 2007
11117 posts
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#54961, "RE: Racial max luck"
In response to Reply #0
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incognito | Tue 29-Apr-14 12:18 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
4495 posts
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#54963, "Same question for classes then"
In response to Reply #2
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Thanks for the answer re races.
So thinking about it in light of your answer, I feel like my bards have good luck, and my aps bad. Muter somewhere in btwn, as is warrior.
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Daevryn | Tue 29-Apr-14 04:35 PM |
Member since 13th Feb 2007
11117 posts
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#54965, "RE: Same question for classes then"
In response to Reply #4
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KaguMaru | Wed 30-Apr-14 04:55 AM |
Member since 15th Sep 2012
805 posts
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#54967, "What muter and bard skills even use luck?"
In response to Reply #4
Edited on Wed 30-Apr-14 04:57 AM
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I really think you are conflating the luck stat with actual luck.
Not many warrior specs have skills which use it. You'll probably see it firing on A-P's more than anything else listed there except maybe an axe spec since it can fire on cleave and overhead.
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incognito | Wed 30-Apr-14 11:19 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
4495 posts
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#54968, "No!"
In response to Reply #8
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I understand the difference.
Skills like charge have a luck component, I think.
However, I'm thinking of stuff like gambling at the inn, which is affected by luck.
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N b M | Wed 30-Apr-14 11:49 AM |
Member since 29th Sep 2005
444 posts
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#54969, "Certain classes get a bonus to luck"
In response to Reply #9
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All classes have the chance to roll a random number for luck but that bonus is applied after the character generation number is set. It can also be bumped up through edge picking.
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KaguMaru | Tue 29-Apr-14 07:29 AM |
Member since 15th Sep 2012
805 posts
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#54960, "Don't conflate the 'luck' stat with actual luck. Not th..."
In response to Reply #0
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incognito | Tue 29-Apr-14 12:19 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
4495 posts
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#54964, "I know this nt"
In response to Reply #1
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