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Odrirg | Tue 21-Jan-14 07:58 PM |
Member since 16th Oct 2004
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#53742, "certain spell effects that show as "skill""
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this has probably been covered. But there is a ring you can get, it gives you detect evil, and can prog in combat to give you a short duration protection from evil.
but neither of them are spells, or communes...they show as skills.
is this ring ok for ragers/rage apps?
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I ask specifically, because....,
Odrirg,
21-Jan-14 10:13 PM, #5
Many players like to abuse what they can because they s...,
Artificial,
21-Jan-14 10:47 PM, #6
Or because its not abuse. ,
Lhydia,
22-Jan-14 07:14 AM, #11
Last dude who did that got titled "Flower Powered" and ...,
Eskelian,
21-Jan-14 11:26 PM, #7
No. More details added.,
Eskelian,
21-Jan-14 09:08 PM, #2
Seaweed gives you water breathing. Are you breaking par...,
Lhydia,
21-Jan-14 09:30 PM, #3
Purity not parity...,
Eskelian,
21-Jan-14 10:10 PM, #4
In 12 years many new items have appeared,
Murphy,
21-Jan-14 11:34 PM, #8
Lawyering doesn't get you very far in the village.,
Eskelian,
22-Jan-14 12:10 AM, #9
Gnome villagers are using gossamer wings.,
Murphy,
22-Jan-14 05:15 AM, #10
That's not magic,
laxman,
22-Jan-14 09:45 AM, #12
'help potion' enclosed,
Valguarnera,
22-Jan-14 11:59 AM, #13
Welcome back. NT,
TMNS,
22-Jan-14 02:05 PM, #14
Don't get used to it!,
Valguarnera,
22-Jan-14 02:51 PM, #15
Seconded.,
Kalageadon,
22-Jan-14 04:35 PM, #16
If you need to ask, no. nt,
Artificial,
21-Jan-14 08:19 PM, #1
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Odrirg | Tue 21-Jan-14 10:13 PM |
Member since 16th Oct 2004
431 posts
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#53747, "I ask specifically, because...."
In response to Reply #0
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I've seen rager apps use flowers that give detect invis as skills.
And it seemed to fly for them.
So why is that ok and the ring is not?
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Lhydia | Wed 22-Jan-14 07:14 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
2391 posts
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#53754, "Or because its not abuse. "
In response to Reply #6
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When a clear rule is cut out that says 'using this is not allowed' and it is no longer open for interpretation, and people still do it, then its abuse. Until then, healing ring/sleeves, protection ring, waterbreathing prep, wings that give you flight, salves that cure plague, powder that prevents sleep, its all legit.
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Eskelian | Tue 21-Jan-14 11:26 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
2023 posts
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#53749, "Last dude who did that got titled "Flower Powered" and ..."
In response to Reply #5
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Eskelian | Tue 21-Jan-14 09:07 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#53744, "No. More details added."
In response to Reply #0
Edited on Tue 21-Jan-14 09:08 PM
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To me the three tenets of being rager-licious is courage, strength and purity. Wearing progging gear that gives you spell like affects ruins the whole purity thing. You can't talk to people about how their quaffing potions is tainting them and weakening them while having a ring that progs protection vs evil.
So to me, it's a big no.
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Eskelian | Tue 21-Jan-14 10:10 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
2023 posts
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#53746, "Purity not parity..."
In response to Reply #3
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And seaweed has been declared the single exception to this rule like 12 years ago.
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Murphy | Tue 21-Jan-14 11:34 PM |
Member since 30th Dec 2010
1639 posts
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#53750, "In 12 years many new items have appeared"
In response to Reply #4
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that by definition could not be covered by this declaration because they weren't there at the time said declaration was made.
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Eskelian | Wed 22-Jan-14 12:10 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#53751, "Lawyering doesn't get you very far in the village."
In response to Reply #8
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You're going to have to come up with a good answer as to why eating a flower that grants you detect invis as a skill isn't the same thing as using magic if you get asked.
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Murphy | Wed 22-Jan-14 05:15 AM |
Member since 30th Dec 2010
1639 posts
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#53753, "Gnome villagers are using gossamer wings."
In response to Reply #9
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laxman | Wed 22-Jan-14 09:45 AM |
Member since 18th Aug 2003
1867 posts
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#53755, "That's not magic"
In response to Reply #10
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That's flapping a pair of wings.
Yeah it is a stretch of physics but then again so is sticking 5 rafts into a sack.
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Valguarnera | Wed 22-Jan-14 11:59 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
6904 posts
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#53757, "'help potion' enclosed"
In response to Reply #8
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POTION PILL ROOT SEAWEED
Potions are magical or blessed liquids. To use one, use the QUAFF command. Potions are only good for one use, and under most circumstances cannot be quaffed in combat. When consumed they provide one or more spells or communes to the user. Potions in your inventory can be used while you are blind. After a period of time, potions will evaporate.
Pills are magical or blessed items which can be used with the EAT command, like a food item, root, or herb. They provide one or more spells or communes when consumed.
Seaweed, while technically a 'pill' in some forms, grants the ability to breathe water and is not considered to be magical in nature. Therans do not find this property any more unusual than a toxic mushroom poisoning its consumer.
Declared exception, present in IC and helpfile lore. I remember writing this a very long time ago.
As for random items that should be reporting as spells or communes, but show up as skills, that's an easy oversight to make while coding. Report them as bugs if there's no nonmagical explanation (even a thin one, like gossamer wings).
valguarnera@carrionfields.com
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TMNS | Wed 22-Jan-14 02:05 PM |
Member since 10th Jun 2009
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#53758, "Welcome back. NT"
In response to Reply #13
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Valguarnera | Wed 22-Jan-14 02:51 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
6904 posts
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#53759, "Don't get used to it!"
In response to Reply #14
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Kalageadon | Wed 22-Jan-14 04:35 PM |
Member since 23rd Oct 2003
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#53760, "Seconded."
In response to Reply #15
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Glad to see you're around. Hope life is treating you well.
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