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#45916, "Gauging the balance while hidden"
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Any way of making this not cause you to step out of the shadows?
Given the lag it causes and that it is really a RP-focused power in a lot of ways, it seems like the sort of thing that could be done while hidden so I don't have to blow my cover just to make sure the balance hasn't shifted since the last time I checked.
Or is there some edge (improved hide?) that would allow this?
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how evil would it be to...,
laxman,
15-Jun-12 10:59 AM, #3
Answer inside.,
Alston,
15-Jun-12 10:48 AM, #2
RE: Answer inside.,
The-me,
15-Jun-12 11:14 AM, #5
The who list is over powered in that...,
Alston,
16-Jun-12 08:49 AM, #12
RE: Answer inside.,
orangepowered,
15-Jun-12 12:24 PM, #7
..from someone who has never played Nexus and doesn't k...,
Lhydia,
15-Jun-12 02:48 PM, #9
I have played many Nexuns.,
Alston,
16-Jun-12 08:47 AM, #11
RE: Gauging the balance while hidden,
Graatch,
15-Jun-12 10:09 AM, #1
What?,
Tsunami,
15-Jun-12 11:07 AM, #4
RE: What?,
The-me,
15-Jun-12 11:16 AM, #6
Close,
Tsunami,
15-Jun-12 01:07 PM, #8
RE: What?,
Shadowy Islander (Anonymous),
15-Jun-12 10:39 PM, #10
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laxman | Fri 15-Jun-12 10:59 AM |
Member since 18th Aug 2003
1867 posts
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#45922, "how evil would it be to..."
In response to Reply #0
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Make the 3 balances options to be displayed in the prompt.
The knowing stuff part of me feels like that could be great, the part of me that realizes there is a place in the cabal for temporarily being ignorant of the balance cringes.
There is also the whole current downside to not having the key and determining the balance that would have to be addressed if this change was made.
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Alston | Fri 15-Jun-12 10:48 AM |
Member since 07th Sep 2011
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#45921, "Answer inside."
In response to Reply #0
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When you guage the balance do a WHO.
If you haven't felt any fluxuations and the who list is stable, then you'll probably be good.
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The-me | Fri 15-Jun-12 11:14 AM |
Member since 14th Jun 2011
333 posts
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#45924, "RE: Answer inside."
In response to Reply #2
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You can tell the position of all the cabal items by the who list? impressive.
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Alston | Sat 16-Jun-12 08:49 AM |
Member since 07th Sep 2011
858 posts
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#45941, "The who list is over powered in that..."
In response to Reply #5
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In many cases it can tell you who is raiding and what not.
All I am saying is that if you had recently guaged the balance and wanted to gamble on attacking, you might get enough info out of Who to hedge your bets.
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orangepowered | Fri 15-Jun-12 12:23 PM |
Member since 29th Jun 2011
348 posts
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#45928, "RE: Answer inside."
In response to Reply #2
Edited on Fri 15-Jun-12 12:24 PM
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Seeing as the who list sometimes has very little to do with the balance, this would not work. Often it is one cabal obtaining another cabals item. If I judged based just on who, I would never see all of the outlanders and how many items they held.
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Lhydia | Fri 15-Jun-12 02:48 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#45930, "..from someone who has never played Nexus and doesn't k..."
In response to Reply #2
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Alston | Sat 16-Jun-12 08:47 AM |
Member since 07th Sep 2011
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#45940, "I have played many Nexuns."
In response to Reply #9
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Graatch | Fri 15-Jun-12 10:09 AM |
Member since 14th Apr 2010
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#45919, "RE: Gauging the balance while hidden"
In response to Reply #0
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>Any way of making this not cause you to step out of the >shadows? > >Given the lag it causes and that it is really a RP-focused >power in a lot of ways, it seems like the sort of thing that >could be done while hidden so I don't have to blow my cover >just to make sure the balance hasn't shifted since the last >time I checked. > >Or is there some edge (improved hide?) that would allow this?
Then all village assassins should be able to call spellbane/resist/trusight while in the shadows, not just scouts.
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Tsunami | Fri 15-Jun-12 11:07 AM |
Member since 25th Mar 2008
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#45923, "What?"
In response to Reply #1
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How do those compare in the slightest to gauging the balance? I could see if he had said vanguard or something.
I don't know if gauging should be possible while hidden, but I don't see the connect you are making.
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The-me | Fri 15-Jun-12 11:16 AM |
Member since 14th Jun 2011
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#45925, "RE: What?"
In response to Reply #4
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There is a disconnect here, perhaps truesight is more logical match.
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Tsunami | Fri 15-Jun-12 01:07 PM |
Member since 25th Mar 2008
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#45929, "Close"
In response to Reply #6
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I think true sight still gives a real advantage while gauge doesn't really change anything except who your target is.
At least true sight makes sense though considering they are both vision-based.
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#45937, "RE: What?"
In response to Reply #6
Edited on Fri 15-Jun-12 10:39 PM
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The difference seems to be that as a Villager you are getting a notable benefit through the use of truesight. Hence the perk of being a scout as a char that relies on being hidden to really take advantage of those benefits to their fullest. Whereas in gauging the balance you are basically getting nothing other than making sure you are doing what you are supposed to be doing in terms of RP/PK at that moment. It's just painful to have to step out of the shadows for 5 seconds or whatever just to make sure the balance hasn't tipped. I suppose one can always plead ignorance if it did shift, but sometimes that goes against the RP basis of being a Nexun.
No big deal either way, this was just an observation I thought was worth discussion. I feel like gauge should be a kind of intuitive thing that doesn't take a lot of strain. Truesight seems to be more of an effort based on the way it's been designed. I suppose gauge could be made to be like truesight in that it could be done without the key but with added strain on the body and then it would make sense to knock you out of the shadows if you didn't have the key.
Ah well, just some food for thought.
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