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Alston | Thu 08-Mar-12 03:15 AM |
Member since 07th Sep 2011
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#44167, "What is STSF and how many tiers are there?"
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What does each tier convey?
And would it ever work for a fire giant against other dumb races? Any chance at all it would work for a fire giant against smart races?
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  I barely found it of any use against Svirfs and dwarves...,
robdarken_,
11-Mar-12 10:48 AM, #7
  RE: I barely found it of any use against Svirfs and dwa...,
Ekaerok (Anonymous),
08-Jan-14 02:15 PM, #11
RE: What is STSF and how many tiers are there?,
Daevryn,
08-Mar-12 09:49 AM, #2
RE: What is STSF and how many tiers are there?,
Illanthos,
08-Mar-12 06:21 PM, #3
RE: What is STSF and how many tiers are there?,
Daevryn,
08-Mar-12 08:02 PM, #4
If I ever was lucky enough to IMM...,
TMNS,
08-Mar-12 08:23 PM, #5
Already been done.,
Alston,
11-Mar-12 07:36 AM, #6
RE: If I ever was lucky enough to IMM...,
laxman,
12-Mar-12 10:33 AM, #8
So, which would be better?,
Klaak,
07-Jan-14 10:04 PM, #9
RE: So, which would be better?,
Daevryn,
07-Jan-14 11:40 PM, #10
the echos are pretty clear,
laxman,
08-Mar-12 06:37 AM, #1
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#53489, "RE: I barely found it of any use against Svirfs and dwa..."
In response to Reply #7
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Arials don't quite have the intelligence for it to charge in any reasonable time anymore. You could still take it, but it would only be worth it if you were planning on fighting extended battles with lots of hitting and running and healing.
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Daevryn | Thu 08-Mar-12 09:49 AM |
Member since 13th Feb 2007
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#44173, "RE: What is STSF and how many tiers are there?"
In response to Reply #0
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I personally wouldn't pick it with a low INT warrior. There's like 30 legacies that will do more for you no matter what your build is.
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Illanthos | Thu 08-Mar-12 06:21 PM |
Member since 14th Oct 2011
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#44207, "RE: What is STSF and how many tiers are there?"
In response to Reply #2
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Daevryn | Thu 08-Mar-12 08:01 PM |
Member since 13th Feb 2007
11117 posts
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#44211, "RE: What is STSF and how many tiers are there?"
In response to Reply #3
Edited on Thu 08-Mar-12 08:02 PM
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Means something but means a lot less than INT.
If you pick it on your minotaur dagger warrior you'll probably wish you picked something more useful for your build like Trapping instead.
(Edited to pick a less useful sounding legacy.)
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Alston | Sun 11-Mar-12 07:36 AM |
Member since 07th Sep 2011
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#44321, "Already been done."
In response to Reply #5
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It's called a sword.
Short: pain-killer
Names: pain-killer claymore sword
Type: weapon, Class: sword
Flags: anti_good
From: Vlad Drakov in Gehenna
Weight: 43, Value: 10560, Level: 32
Material: iron
Damage: 10 to 30 (avg 20)
Affect: damage roll 6
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laxman | Mon 12-Mar-12 10:33 AM |
Member since 18th Aug 2003
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#44350, "RE: If I ever was lucky enough to IMM..."
In response to Reply #5
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There is a sword out there that a trapping warrior could use to abuse svirf/gnomes now.
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Klaak | Tue 07-Jan-14 10:04 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#53477, "So, which would be better?"
In response to Reply #4
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I'm curious which of these races would capitalize on the strengths of STSF better...
Elf with STSF = 25 int, 21 wis, 23 dex
Drow with STSF = 24 int, 21 wis, 24 dex
W-elf with STSF = 23 int, 21 wis, 24 dex
Gnome with STSF = 23 int, 25 wis, 20 dex
I ask this question only because I recently fought a gnome with STSF, and it only took like 2 or 3 rounds for him to start cutting off my escape. This leads me to believe that wisdom contributes quite a bit, at least enough to bridge the gap between 23 int and 25 int, if not take it slightly further.
I only included d-elf and w-elf in the mix here because I seem to recall you saying something about dex helping out somehow as well.
If you were to rate these four races in order in terms of ability to capitalize on the strengths of STSF (taking into account nothing but the legacy-relevant data), what order would you put them in?
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Daevryn | Tue 07-Jan-14 11:40 PM |
Member since 13th Feb 2007
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#53478, "RE: So, which would be better?"
In response to Reply #9
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INT is way more important than WIS. So probably elf is king.
DEX isn't relevant.
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laxman | Thu 08-Mar-12 06:37 AM |
Member since 18th Aug 2003
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#44170, "the echos are pretty clear"
In response to Reply #0
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one enhances your defenses vs the target
one increases your damage vs the target
one gives you a chance to prevent flee from the target/better chance to evade them
One helps you penetrate the defenses of the target
then when you get all that you start gettng, you revel in yadda yadda messages. Not exactly sure if they boots single aspects or all of them but you basically keep getting more of an advantage in the things above.
The chance that you learn things is based on your int - their int and the bigger that value the better.
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