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DragomirMon 20-Feb-12 04:22 PM
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#43570, "Growing more confident in Shifter Form"


          

I have two questions now that I am trying to come back after three years off. Great to see the Fields still going strong btw and have been reading up on a lot of the changes. I looking forward to playing again.

One: Is how quickly you grow more confident in a form as a shifter aided at all by the new bonus to learning that has been put in? The one dependent on how many players are logged in.

Two: How come growing more confident does not give you exp like improving a skill or spell would? It would seem that it would be the same thing as improving in second attack, etc.

  

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Reply RE: Growing more confident in Shifter Form, Daevryn, 22-Feb-12 09:58 AM, #5
Reply RE: Growing more confident in Shifter Form, Dragomir, 22-Feb-12 10:09 AM, #8
Reply Not official, but..., Tac, 22-Feb-12 09:43 AM, #4
Reply RE: Not official, but..., Dragomir, 22-Feb-12 10:00 AM, #6
     Reply RE: Not official, but..., Daevryn, 22-Feb-12 10:07 AM, #7
          Reply RE: Not official, but..., Dragomir, 22-Feb-12 10:18 AM, #9
Reply really? nothing?, Dragomir, 22-Feb-12 08:42 AM, #1
     Reply Here is your answer:, Batman (Anonymous), 22-Feb-12 09:32 AM, #2
          Reply Ha!, Dragomir, 22-Feb-12 09:38 AM, #3

DaevrynWed 22-Feb-12 09:58 AM
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#43693, "RE: Growing more confident in Shifter Form"
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>One: Is how quickly you grow more confident in a form as a
>shifter aided at all by the new bonus to learning that has
>been put in? The one dependent on how many players are logged
>in.

I don't think so but I haven't looked at the code.

>Two: How come growing more confident does not give you exp
>like improving a skill or spell would? It would seem that it
>would be the same thing as improving in second attack, etc.

Because they're not skills or spells?

I don't have a strong opinion either way on this issue.

  

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DragomirWed 22-Feb-12 10:09 AM
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#43696, "RE: Growing more confident in Shifter Form"
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>I don't think so but I haven't looked at the code.

It actually seemed like I learned better without the bonus, but that could very well be RNG or my complete incompetence

>
>
>Because they're not skills or spells?
>
>I don't have a strong opinion either way on this issue.

Just thought it might be a nice small perk. maybe I'll try Santa Zulg 2012!

Thanks!!

  

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TacWed 22-Feb-12 09:43 AM
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#43689, "Not official, but..."
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>I have two questions now that I am trying to come back after
>three years off. Great to see the Fields still going strong
>btw and have been reading up on a lot of the changes. I
>looking forward to playing again.
>
>One: Is how quickly you grow more confident in a form as a
>shifter aided at all by the new bonus to learning that has
>been put in? The one dependent on how many players are logged
>in.

Probably not at all, and since it isn't that hard, and takes like 20 minutes of being in form while ranking... who cares?

>Two: How come growing more confident does not give you exp
>like improving a skill or spell would? It would seem that it
>would be the same thing as improving in second attack, etc.

It isn't a skill, or is a hidden skill they don't want people tracking so they never bothered. You are looking at something like a max of 1k exp per form. Not likely to be worth the effort.

  

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DragomirWed 22-Feb-12 10:00 AM
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#43694, "RE: Not official, but..."
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>
>Probably not at all, and since it isn't that hard, and takes
>like 20 minutes of being in form while ranking... who cares?
>

It almost seemed like it was reversed in my experience. I seemed to grow more confident quicker when there was no learning bonus, which prompted the question.


>
>It isn't a skill, or is a hidden skill they don't want people
>tracking so they never bothered. You are looking at something
>like a max of 1k exp per form. Not likely to be worth the
>effort.

I remember a loong time ago it was changed so that confident basically meant 100%. People use to notice, even after they became confident, they would still improve in the form. That, to me, means it is a skill. Yes, it is a small amount of exp, but I would be curious why it would be treated any differently from other ones.

  

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DaevrynWed 22-Feb-12 10:07 AM
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#43695, "RE: Not official, but..."
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Mechanically, it's not a skill.

I'm talking guts of the mud code here.

  

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DragomirWed 22-Feb-12 10:18 AM
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#43697, "RE: Not official, but..."
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>Mechanically, it's not a skill.
>
>I'm talking guts of the mud code here.

Really? interesting. my former programmer self is curious as to what the difference is in the code, but I am still recovering and do not really think I should find out... I'll stick with my routers and switches.

  

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DragomirWed 22-Feb-12 08:42 AM
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#43677, "really? nothing?"
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Not even a smart @$$ answer? I checked the older posts and could not find the answer. It is not like I am asking anything super secret. I even started out with a nice compliment to try and garner some good will for an answer... and I got nothing...

That hurts a bit.

  

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#43685, "Here is your answer:"
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Hi, how are you today?

  

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DragomirWed 22-Feb-12 09:37 AM
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Edited on Wed 22-Feb-12 09:38 AM

          

Sorry, just thought they were legit questions and no one could even both answering. Kind of annoying. But thanks for the smart @$$ response! Now if I can get Nep to give the real answer my day will be complete!

Edited to add:

And my day has been long already, if you could not tell from my post, but thanks for asking!

  

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