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GaplemoMon 02-Jan-12 06:45 PM
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#42332, "Minotaurs and Anti-Paladins. Thoughts?"


          

Was wondering as to the immortal and player opinion as to why Minotaurs aren't/can't be anti-paladins. You would think if they could manage to be a shaman they could manage to be a brute fighter with limited spellcasting magics. Just seems to fit them so well.

I mean, think about the scenario, really....

The anti-paladin guildguard says, "Oh, so you were ripped from the womb of a ritualistically raped and defiled female. Hmm. No, I don't think we can use you here. Why don't you try the warrior's guild instead?"


Immortal/Player comments, thoughts? Would it be so bad, given how limited the race is, to open minotaurs to the AP class?

  

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Reply Somatic spell component would be inhibited by Minospeak..., Vladamir, 03-Jan-12 11:55 PM, #8
Reply They can speak the bloodoath but not cast a fireball? n..., Gaplemo, 04-Jan-12 12:11 AM, #9
Reply Minotaurs can speak the words for summoning a nightwalk..., Artificial, 04-Jan-12 12:17 AM, #10
Reply verbal verbosity, Scarabaeus, 04-Jan-12 11:18 AM, #11
Reply a thought, Scarabaeus, 02-Jan-12 07:17 PM, #2
Reply Now this sounds very cool nt, incognito, 02-Jan-12 07:26 PM, #5
     Reply A little flavor might go a long way with APs. nt, Gaplemo, 02-Jan-12 08:25 PM, #7
Reply Feels a little strong, incognito, 02-Jan-12 06:55 PM, #1
     Reply 60% would be completely unusable lol nt, Artificial, 02-Jan-12 07:23 PM, #3
          Reply Nah, incognito, 02-Jan-12 07:25 PM, #4
               Reply Ick. Horrible. -nt-, fist-law, 02-Jan-12 07:27 PM, #6

VladamirTue 03-Jan-12 11:55 PM
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#42363, "Somatic spell component would be inhibited by Minospeak..."
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GaplemoWed 04-Jan-12 12:11 AM
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#42364, "They can speak the bloodoath but not cast a fireball? n..."
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ArtificialWed 04-Jan-12 12:17 AM
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#42365, "Minotaurs can speak the words for summoning a nightwalk..."
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ScarabaeusWed 04-Jan-12 11:18 AM
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#42379, "verbal verbosity"
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I think you mean to say verbal components. Somatic components involve some kind of physical/bodily motion, which should be fine for a Minotaur unless it involves toe wiggling.

Regarding the comments that follow:

Spell casting is remarkably different from merely conveying meaning. Taking the bloodoath, for example, is an act of pledging fealty in a particular way, not the invocation of magical power by combining specific intonations with material/somatic components. With that I don't see an issue.

Conjuring nightwalkers is more potentially confounding. Being a cabal power and not strictly a matter of magic may mitigate the possible dissonance there.

  

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ScarabaeusMon 02-Jan-12 07:17 PM
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#42337, "a thought"
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I don't see a lack of Minotaur Anti-Paladins as a sign of rejection by the guild but rather as an indication of the interests of the race/culture itself. They're an earthy, brutal race that is always one generation away from extinction; I just don't see them having a great interest in the abyssal/infernal realms.

As an aside, there are a number of things I would still like to see implemented for Anti-Paladins that would make this emphasis even less interesting to Minotaurs.

  

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incognitoMon 02-Jan-12 07:26 PM
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#42340, "Now this sounds very cool nt"
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GaplemoMon 02-Jan-12 08:25 PM
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#42344, "A little flavor might go a long way with APs. nt"
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incognitoMon 02-Jan-12 06:50 PM
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#42334, "Feels a little strong"
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Edited on Mon 02-Jan-12 06:55 PM

          

Immune fear, large size, decent stats (opening lots of edges), gore lag.

I could just about see it working if they couldn't cast reliably because they can't pronounce the spells. (Cap all spells at 60%, say.)

  

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ArtificialMon 02-Jan-12 07:23 PM
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#42338, "60% would be completely unusable lol nt"
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incognitoMon 02-Jan-12 07:25 PM
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#42339, "Nah"
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Sure, you wouldn't be iceballing people to death very often, but you'd still use stuff like bloodlust and irongrip.

  

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fist-lawMon 02-Jan-12 07:27 PM
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#42341, "Ick. Horrible. -nt-"
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