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Torak | Fri 12-Aug-11 12:22 PM |
Member since 15th Feb 2007
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#39630, "For Daevryn: Time to spill the beans..."
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Since it's a new hot topic on the other forum and becoming the flavor of the month, how about some juicy details about hunters? There really hasn't been any "badass" hunters but it's got a lot of vague points that you probably could unveil.
1) Does observe produce just produce better melee or does it give STSF type effects like pounce/evade? Is it similar in number to "stalks" to be useful? Does it affect anything else the hunter uses (aimed shot, timed attack, etc)?
2) Stalker of the wilds...I've really never understood. I tried to think of instances where it might be used but really, why? If it's a group, they usually don't have nofol on. If you're going to kill them, why would you want to follow them and not observe? What's the point of this skill?
3) How exactly is precision determined? Weight or armor type or a combination of both?
4) Can you add an edge for a hunter to see where a air form lands when shot down and maybe increase the lag for them? They usually just fly off before you reach them (or maybe make it so they can't fly off?)
5) If you land 50 observes and aimed shot to the head, do you decapitate your foe?!
Any info would be helpful. I've always wanted hunters to be badass but they always just seemed kinda "eh". My nexun hunter was ok, Trevant was decent.
Reveal your secrets!...please?
-Torak
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RE: For Daevryn: Time to spill the beans...,
Daevryn,
04-Sep-11 02:15 PM, #32
Thanks!,
Torak,
04-Sep-11 02:34 PM, #33
Any news on stalker of the wilds?,
Torak,
07-Sep-11 05:40 PM, #35
RE: Any news on stalker of the wilds?,
Daevryn,
07-Sep-11 11:21 PM, #36
Thanks! But...,
Wayward Knight,
04-Sep-11 06:52 PM, #34
Feeling better Daevryn? :) nt,
Torak,
29-Aug-11 10:06 AM, #28
RE: Feeling better Daevryn? :) nt,
Daevryn,
30-Aug-11 02:22 PM, #29
heheh,
Abernyte,
31-Aug-11 05:42 AM, #30
RE: For Daevryn: Time to spill the beans...,
Daevryn,
16-Aug-11 08:08 AM, #5
Mind looking them up? nt,
Torak,
16-Aug-11 01:41 PM, #7
RE: Mind looking them up? nt,
Daevryn,
16-Aug-11 10:22 PM, #8
Heh,
Rayihn,
17-Aug-11 06:00 AM, #9
RE: Heh,
Isildur,
17-Aug-11 03:02 PM, #10
RE: Heh,
Rayihn,
17-Aug-11 03:19 PM, #11
My 1 year old just got some,
Torak,
17-Aug-11 03:49 PM, #13
I hope that the ear infection has been properly diagnos...,
DurNominator,
17-Aug-11 04:09 PM, #14
Wow, seriously?,
Tsunami,
17-Aug-11 05:02 PM, #15
RE: Wow, seriously?,
Elerosse,
17-Aug-11 05:43 PM, #16
Why would they earn more money with a procedure?,
DurNominator,
18-Aug-11 02:26 AM, #20
So I've hear claimed somewhere.,
DurNominator,
18-Aug-11 01:32 AM, #19
From an outside perspective...,
Splntrd,
01-Sep-11 09:01 PM, #31
Been I think 9 in in the last 10 months.,
Rayihn,
17-Aug-11 06:18 PM, #17
If the doctor actually checked your child's ears, then ...,
DurNominator,
18-Aug-11 12:23 AM, #18
RE: If the doctor actually checked your child's ears, t...,
Welverin,
18-Aug-11 07:08 AM, #21
RE: If the doctor actually checked your child's ears, t...,
Elerosse,
18-Aug-11 06:35 PM, #22
RE: Heh,
GrahamC,
19-Aug-11 02:49 AM, #25
RE: Heh,
GrahamC,
19-Aug-11 04:44 PM, #27
My daughter had to get tubes twice,
reject0,
19-Aug-11 10:02 AM, #26
RE: Heh,
Isildur,
18-Aug-11 07:13 PM, #23
Must have been a tough retrievel from Tremblefist. NT,
TMNS,
17-Aug-11 03:25 PM, #12
RE: Heh,
BaronMySoul (Anonymous),
18-Aug-11 10:40 PM, #24
I had Dhuril, a caverndweller hunter,
Oldril,
14-Aug-11 11:37 AM, #2
Yo, bump, let's hear somethin'.,
Wayward Knight,
14-Aug-11 01:54 AM, #1
Bumpage,
Torak,
15-Aug-11 11:11 PM, #3
Quit begging. =P,
Lhydia,
16-Aug-11 05:35 AM, #4
Hey now...,
Torak,
16-Aug-11 11:18 AM, #6
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Daevryn | Sun 04-Sep-11 02:15 PM |
Member since 13th Feb 2007
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#39979, "RE: For Daevryn: Time to spill the beans..."
In response to Reply #0
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>Since it's a new hot topic on the other forum and becoming >the flavor of the month, how about some juicy details about >hunters? There really hasn't been any "badass" hunters but >it's got a lot of vague points that you probably could >unveil. > >1) Does observe produce just produce better melee or does it >give STSF type effects like pounce/evade? Is it similar in >number to "stalks" to be useful? Does it affect anything else >the hunter uses (aimed shot, timed attack, etc)?
Basically better melee. More damage, better tanking, harder to tank, etc.
>2) Stalker of the wilds...I've really never understood. I >tried to think of instances where it might be used but really, >why? If it's a group, they usually don't have nofol on. If >you're going to kill them, why would you want to follow them >and not observe? What's the point of this skill?
Not immediately clear on how this works.
>3) How exactly is precision determined? Weight or armor type >or a combination of both?
Weight.
>4) Can you add an edge for a hunter to see where a air form >lands when shot down and maybe increase the lag for them? They >usually just fly off before you reach them (or maybe make it >so they can't fly off?)
I could, but I'm not today.
>5) If you land 50 observes and aimed shot to the head, do you >decapitate your foe?!
Nope.
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Torak | Sun 04-Sep-11 02:30 PM |
Member since 15th Feb 2007
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#39981, "Thanks!"
In response to Reply #32
Edited on Sun 04-Sep-11 02:34 PM
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Glad you're feeling better. If you could figure out whats the point of stalker, that'd pretty much some up my questions. Obviously I've some balance questions (they feel like pre-buff trappers) but that's for another time.
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Torak | Wed 07-Sep-11 05:40 PM |
Member since 15th Feb 2007
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#40040, "Any news on stalker of the wilds?"
In response to Reply #33
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Daevryn | Wed 07-Sep-11 11:21 PM |
Member since 13th Feb 2007
11117 posts
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#40047, "RE: Any news on stalker of the wilds?"
In response to Reply #35
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I've done the looking at it I'm willing to do right now and you have the answer you have.
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Wayward Knight | Sun 04-Sep-11 06:52 PM |
Member since 06th Jan 2010
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#39990, "Thanks! But..."
In response to Reply #32
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Does Observe have a cap? I am sure it does, but around what number of observes is the cap?
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Torak | Mon 29-Aug-11 10:06 AM |
Member since 15th Feb 2007
1216 posts
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#39903, "Feeling better Daevryn? :) nt"
In response to Reply #0
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Daevryn | Tue 30-Aug-11 02:22 PM |
Member since 13th Feb 2007
11117 posts
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#39925, "RE: Feeling better Daevryn? :) nt"
In response to Reply #28
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Yep, but then ask me if I've had the time and energy to spend an hour digging through the hunter code and the answer would be no.
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Abernyte | Wed 31-Aug-11 05:42 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#39934, "heheh"
In response to Reply #29
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Although I am keen to hear the answer, this made me laugh.
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Daevryn | Tue 16-Aug-11 08:08 AM |
Member since 13th Feb 2007
11117 posts
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#39675, "RE: For Daevryn: Time to spill the beans..."
In response to Reply #0
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I don't know the answers to these questions off the top of my head.
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Torak | Tue 16-Aug-11 01:41 PM |
Member since 15th Feb 2007
1216 posts
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#39680, "Mind looking them up? nt"
In response to Reply #5
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Daevryn | Tue 16-Aug-11 10:21 PM |
Member since 13th Feb 2007
11117 posts
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#39686, "RE: Mind looking them up? nt"
In response to Reply #7
Edited on Tue 16-Aug-11 10:22 PM
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Magic 8 Ball says, Outlook Not So Good this week.
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Rayihn | Wed 17-Aug-11 06:00 AM |
Member since 08th Oct 2006
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#39691, "Heh"
In response to Reply #8
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He has pneumonia and a toddler with an ear infection. Go easy on him.
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Rayihn | Wed 17-Aug-11 03:19 PM |
Member since 08th Oct 2006
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#39694, "RE: Heh"
In response to Reply #10
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Yeah my baby girl goes under the knife next thursday to get tubes installed in her sweet little (frequently infected) ears. *sniffle*
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Torak | Wed 17-Aug-11 03:49 PM |
Member since 15th Feb 2007
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#39696, "My 1 year old just got some"
In response to Reply #11
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It was a fairly painless process, took no time at all and he doesn't seem to mind. No ear infections since.
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DurNominator | Wed 17-Aug-11 04:08 PM |
Member since 08th Nov 2004
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#39697, "I hope that the ear infection has been properly diagnos..."
In response to Reply #11
Edited on Wed 17-Aug-11 04:09 PM
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In Finland, some doctors can just glance a baby and diagnose ear infection. Many of these diagnoses are false, but it is lucrative for the doctors to do so as they can get a lot of diagnoses for patients and can get a bonus for being efficient. When this is being done, we've had same babies frequently diagnosed with ear infections, even when that is not necessarily the case. Was your baby inspected properly, rather than just the doctor looking a bit and diagnosing an ear infection?
Anyway, good luck with it. I hope your child gets well soon.
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Tsunami | Wed 17-Aug-11 05:02 PM |
Member since 25th Mar 2008
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#39698, "Wow, seriously?"
In response to Reply #14
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It takes all of 2-3 minutes to do a full ENT examine and diagnose an ear infection. Who would "just look" at a baby and decide they have an ear infection to save time? They wouldn't even really save time...
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Elerosse | Wed 17-Aug-11 05:43 PM |
Member since 01st Nov 2006
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#39699, "RE: Wow, seriously?"
In response to Reply #15
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I doubt they are trying to save time. It's because they don't care about the diagnosis, they want to preform the procedure because they earn more money that way.
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DurNominator | Thu 18-Aug-11 02:26 AM |
Member since 08th Nov 2004
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#39703, "Why would they earn more money with a procedure?"
In response to Reply #16
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Since it's public healthcare. The patient pays the same 22 EUR for the hospital visit regardless of whether there is an operation or not. This is my experience with them. I've had hospital visits where I've only had a talk with the surgeon about the operation (in this case, surgery to cure gastrointestinal reflux disease) and I've had hospital visits where they did diagnostic procedures such as gastroscopy. The price was the same on both times. I've also had two surgeries, but I have no idea about what they cost since that they were to treat a wound obtained in the military service, so the bill was sent straight to the State Treasury and I did not see it.
What my post was about was health center doctors just diagnosing ear infection carelessly and prescribing antibiotics for it. I doubt they would go for the tubes with if the diagnosis was done carelessly, though.
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DurNominator | Thu 18-Aug-11 01:32 AM |
Member since 08th Nov 2004
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#39702, "So I've hear claimed somewhere."
In response to Reply #15
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Most doctors probably check it properly, but I've heard rumors of some doctors diagnosing ear infection when they can't find the reason for the baby being restless. Dunno how common it is. Probably not very common since it's practically malpractice.
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Splntrd | Thu 01-Sep-11 09:01 PM |
Member since 08th Feb 2004
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#39952, "From an outside perspective..."
In response to Reply #19
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I would assume this is an urban legend generated by distrust for socialized healthcare (and lent credibility by the frequency of mysterious ear infections in children). Splntrd
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Rayihn | Wed 17-Aug-11 06:18 PM |
Member since 08th Oct 2006
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#39700, "Been I think 9 in in the last 10 months."
In response to Reply #14
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I trust our pediatrician - also, she stops sleeping at night, she gets diagnosed with ear infection, she gets antibiotics, she starts sleeping better. (I say better cause she's an awful sleeper in general)
So I don't really doubt the diagnosis, but it's interesting that things are done that way in Finland.
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DurNominator | Thu 18-Aug-11 12:23 AM |
Member since 08th Nov 2004
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#39701, "If the doctor actually checked your child's ears, then ..."
In response to Reply #17
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If the doctor didn't check the child's ears and see wet secretion inside, then I'd doubt the diagnosis. If he checked and did, then the diagnosis is likely correct.
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Welverin | Thu 18-Aug-11 07:08 AM |
Member since 23rd Oct 2009
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#39704, "RE: If the doctor actually checked your child's ears, t..."
In response to Reply #18
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Hmmm.... I have four kids, and my first had and still has Chronic ear infections. I've never been to a pediatrician here that's _not_ looked in my childs ears to diagnose an ear infection.
We've been through two sets of tubes on her. The first was the worst because she had contracted a-typical(sp) TB at the same time, so at 2 she went under the knife for removal of an encapsulated TB mass in her neck, removal of Tonsils, removal of Adnoids, and a tube in her right ear. She was a trooper though.
Raybaer, GL with the procedure. Hope things get better.
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Elerosse | Thu 18-Aug-11 06:35 PM |
Member since 01st Nov 2006
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#39705, "RE: If the doctor actually checked your child's ears, t..."
In response to Reply #18
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>If the doctor didn't check the child's ears and see wet >secretion inside, then I'd doubt the diagnosis. If he checked >and did, then the diagnosis is likely correct.
my post was predicated on your previous post. I must have misunderstood you. I thought you meant it was more lucrative for the doctors to do the procedure regardless of diagnosis hence they didn't bother with actually diagnosising and just performed the operation.
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reject0 | Fri 19-Aug-11 10:02 AM |
Member since 05th Jan 2005
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#39709, "My daughter had to get tubes twice"
In response to Reply #11
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And as painless and easy as it is, I have never been more stressed and worried when they took my daughter back for the surgery.
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TMNS | Wed 17-Aug-11 03:25 PM |
Member since 10th Jun 2009
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#39695, "Must have been a tough retrievel from Tremblefist. NT"
In response to Reply #9
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#39707, "RE: Heh"
In response to Reply #9
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If it makes you feel any better, Nep, there's a line dedicated to you in the role generator during the "processing" part.
http://www.cfmudprojects.com/ - role idea generator - wrap chop formatter - thief designer rehosted
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Oldril | Sun 14-Aug-11 11:37 AM |
Member since 20th Jan 2011
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#39647, "I had Dhuril, a caverndweller hunter"
In response to Reply #0
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So I will try and help though I only fought 4 or 5 people.
1. I never saw observe do the pounce/evade but I never charged it a lot. It did seem like my moves landed more when I had observed the few people I used it on.
2. Skill seemed broken to me. I would use stalker of the wilds in caves and I would immediately be told "The target has gone where you can't follow" or some such. So either it is broken in caves or I used it wrong.
3. Precision seemed to rock, went up tons when I was fighting in light/non-metal armors.
4. Aerial shot seemed pretty suck for the reason you describe here. No idea where they fall.
5. Aimed shot is seriously good. Seriously. Problem is the sick lag and if you get disarmed in the middle you wasted 5 rounds.
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Wayward Knight | Sun 14-Aug-11 01:54 AM |
Member since 06th Jan 2010
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#39643, "Yo, bump, let's hear somethin'."
In response to Reply #0
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Torak | Mon 15-Aug-11 11:11 PM |
Member since 15th Feb 2007
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#39665, "Bumpage"
In response to Reply #1
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Come on, please?
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Torak | Tue 16-Aug-11 11:18 AM |
Member since 15th Feb 2007
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#39679, "Hey now..."
In response to Reply #4
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I have had more than one hunter. It's not exactly the easiest things to figure out (especially why someone would even use stalker of the wilds).
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