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Topic subjectFor Daevryn: Time to spill the beans...
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39630, For Daevryn: Time to spill the beans...
Posted by Torak on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Since it's a new hot topic on the other forum and becoming the flavor of the month, how about some juicy details about hunters? There really hasn't been any "badass" hunters but it's got a lot of vague points that you probably could unveil.

1) Does observe produce just produce better melee or does it give STSF type effects like pounce/evade? Is it similar in number to "stalks" to be useful? Does it affect anything else the hunter uses (aimed shot, timed attack, etc)?

2) Stalker of the wilds...I've really never understood. I tried to think of instances where it might be used but really, why? If it's a group, they usually don't have nofol on. If you're going to kill them, why would you want to follow them and not observe? What's the point of this skill?

3) How exactly is precision determined? Weight or armor type or a combination of both?

4) Can you add an edge for a hunter to see where a air form lands when shot down and maybe increase the lag for them? They usually just fly off before you reach them (or maybe make it so they can't fly off?)

5) If you land 50 observes and aimed shot to the head, do you decapitate your foe?!

Any info would be helpful. I've always wanted hunters to be badass but they always just seemed kinda "eh". My nexun hunter was ok, Trevant was decent.

Reveal your secrets!...please?

-Torak
39979, RE: For Daevryn: Time to spill the beans...
Posted by Daevryn on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
>Since it's a new hot topic on the other forum and becoming
>the flavor of the month, how about some juicy details about
>hunters? There really hasn't been any "badass" hunters but
>it's got a lot of vague points that you probably could
>unveil.
>
>1) Does observe produce just produce better melee or does it
>give STSF type effects like pounce/evade? Is it similar in
>number to "stalks" to be useful? Does it affect anything else
>the hunter uses (aimed shot, timed attack, etc)?

Basically better melee. More damage, better tanking, harder to tank, etc.

>2) Stalker of the wilds...I've really never understood. I
>tried to think of instances where it might be used but really,
>why? If it's a group, they usually don't have nofol on. If
>you're going to kill them, why would you want to follow them
>and not observe? What's the point of this skill?

Not immediately clear on how this works.

>3) How exactly is precision determined? Weight or armor type
>or a combination of both?

Weight.

>4) Can you add an edge for a hunter to see where a air form
>lands when shot down and maybe increase the lag for them? They
>usually just fly off before you reach them (or maybe make it
>so they can't fly off?)

I could, but I'm not today.

>5) If you land 50 observes and aimed shot to the head, do you
>decapitate your foe?!

Nope.
39981, Thanks!
Posted by Torak on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Glad you're feeling better. If you could figure out whats the point of stalker, that'd pretty much some up my questions. Obviously I've some balance questions (they feel like pre-buff trappers) but that's for another time.
40040, Any news on stalker of the wilds?
Posted by Torak on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
nt
40047, RE: Any news on stalker of the wilds?
Posted by Daevryn on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I've done the looking at it I'm willing to do right now and you have the answer you have.
39990, Thanks! But...
Posted by Wayward Knight on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Does Observe have a cap? I am sure it does, but around what number of observes is the cap?
39903, Feeling better Daevryn? :) nt
Posted by Torak on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
nt
39925, RE: Feeling better Daevryn? :) nt
Posted by Daevryn on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Yep, but then ask me if I've had the time and energy to spend an hour digging through the hunter code and the answer would be no.
39934, heheh
Posted by Abernyte on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Although I am keen to hear the answer, this made me laugh.
39675, RE: For Daevryn: Time to spill the beans...
Posted by Daevryn on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I don't know the answers to these questions off the top of my head.
39680, Mind looking them up? nt
Posted by Torak on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
nt
39686, RE: Mind looking them up? nt
Posted by Daevryn on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Magic 8 Ball says, Outlook Not So Good this week.
39691, Heh
Posted by Rayihn on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
He has pneumonia and a toddler with an ear infection. Go easy on him.
39693, RE: Heh
Posted by Isildur on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
That beats my "gastroenteritis and 5 year old with similar".
39694, RE: Heh
Posted by Rayihn on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Yeah my baby girl goes under the knife next thursday to get tubes installed in her sweet little (frequently infected) ears. *sniffle*
39696, My 1 year old just got some
Posted by Torak on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
It was a fairly painless process, took no time at all and he doesn't seem to mind. No ear infections since.
39697, I hope that the ear infection has been properly diagnosed.
Posted by DurNominator on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
In Finland, some doctors can just glance a baby and diagnose ear infection. Many of these diagnoses are false, but it is lucrative for the doctors to do so as they can get a lot of diagnoses for patients and can get a bonus for being efficient. When this is being done, we've had same babies frequently diagnosed with ear infections, even when that is not necessarily the case. Was your baby inspected properly, rather than just the doctor looking a bit and diagnosing an ear infection?

Anyway, good luck with it. I hope your child gets well soon.
39698, Wow, seriously?
Posted by Tsunami on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
It takes all of 2-3 minutes to do a full ENT examine and diagnose an ear infection. Who would "just look" at a baby and decide they have an ear infection to save time? They wouldn't even really save time...
39699, RE: Wow, seriously?
Posted by Elerosse on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I doubt they are trying to save time. It's because they don't care about the diagnosis, they want to preform the procedure because they earn more money that way.
39703, Why would they earn more money with a procedure?
Posted by DurNominator on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Since it's public healthcare. The patient pays the same 22 EUR for the hospital visit regardless of whether there is an operation or not. This is my experience with them. I've had hospital visits where I've only had a talk with the surgeon about the operation (in this case, surgery to cure gastrointestinal reflux disease) and I've had hospital visits where they did diagnostic procedures such as gastroscopy. The price was the same on both times. I've also had two surgeries, but I have no idea about what they cost since that they were to treat a wound obtained in the military service, so the bill was sent straight to the State Treasury and I did not see it.

What my post was about was health center doctors just diagnosing ear infection carelessly and prescribing antibiotics for it. I doubt they would go for the tubes with if the diagnosis was done carelessly, though.
39702, So I've hear claimed somewhere.
Posted by DurNominator on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Most doctors probably check it properly, but I've heard rumors of some doctors diagnosing ear infection when they can't find the reason for the baby being restless. Dunno how common it is. Probably not very common since it's practically malpractice.
39952, From an outside perspective...
Posted by Splntrd on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I would assume this is an urban legend generated by distrust for socialized healthcare (and lent credibility by the frequency of mysterious ear infections in children).
39700, Been I think 9 in in the last 10 months.
Posted by Rayihn on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I trust our pediatrician - also, she stops sleeping at night, she gets diagnosed with ear infection, she gets antibiotics, she starts sleeping better. (I say better cause she's an awful sleeper in general)

So I don't really doubt the diagnosis, but it's interesting that things are done that way in Finland.
39701, If the doctor actually checked your child's ears, then I would trust the diagnosis.
Posted by DurNominator on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
If the doctor didn't check the child's ears and see wet secretion inside, then I'd doubt the diagnosis. If he checked and did, then the diagnosis is likely correct.
39704, RE: If the doctor actually checked your child's ears, then I would trust the diagnosis.
Posted by Welverin on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Hmmm.... I have four kids, and my first had and still has Chronic ear infections. I've never been to a pediatrician here that's _not_ looked in my childs ears to diagnose an ear infection.

We've been through two sets of tubes on her. The first was the worst because she had contracted a-typical(sp) TB at the same time, so at 2 she went under the knife for removal of an encapsulated TB mass in her neck, removal of Tonsils, removal of Adnoids, and a tube in her right ear. She was a trooper though.

Raybaer, GL with the procedure. Hope things get better.
39705, RE: If the doctor actually checked your child's ears, then I would trust the diagnosis.
Posted by Elerosse on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
>If the doctor didn't check the child's ears and see wet
>secretion inside, then I'd doubt the diagnosis. If he checked
>and did, then the diagnosis is likely correct.

my post was predicated on your previous post. I must have misunderstood you. I thought you meant it was more lucrative for the doctors to do the procedure regardless of diagnosis hence they didn't bother with actually diagnosising and just performed the operation.
39708, RE: Heh
Posted by GrahamC on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Wow never heard of that befo the docs want to fiddle with my little ones teste die to a persistent hydroseal i'm sure all will be well.
39710, RE: Heh
Posted by GrahamC on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
At which point i know fully understand what "grommets" are. A much discussed item which i never knew the detail of.
39709, My daughter had to get tubes twice
Posted by reject0 on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
And as painless and easy as it is, I have never been more stressed and worried when they took my daughter back for the surgery.
39706, RE: Heh
Posted by Isildur on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Working out & jogging the day after gastroenteritis = kind of a bummer.
39695, Must have been a tough retrievel from Tremblefist. NT
Posted by TMNS on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
NT
39707, RE: Heh
Posted by BaronMySoul on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
If it makes you feel any better, Nep, there's a line dedicated to you in the role generator during the "processing" part.


http://www.cfmudprojects.com/
- role idea generator
- wrap chop formatter
- thief designer rehosted
39647, I had Dhuril, a caverndweller hunter
Posted by Oldril on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
So I will try and help though I only fought 4 or 5 people.


1. I never saw observe do the pounce/evade but I never charged it a lot. It did seem like my moves landed more when I had observed the few people I used it on.

2. Skill seemed broken to me. I would use stalker of the wilds in caves and I would immediately be told "The target has gone where you can't follow" or some such. So either it is broken in caves or I used it wrong.

3. Precision seemed to rock, went up tons when I was fighting in light/non-metal armors.

4. Aerial shot seemed pretty suck for the reason you describe here. No idea where they fall.

5. Aimed shot is seriously good. Seriously. Problem is the sick lag and if you get disarmed in the middle you wasted 5 rounds.
39643, Yo, bump, let's hear somethin'.
Posted by Wayward Knight on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
n/t
39665, Bumpage
Posted by Torak on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Come on, please? :)
39672, Quit begging. =P
Posted by Lhydia on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
It seems like if you actually had had the time or patience to figure that stuff out while you had a hunter you could have.
39679, Hey now...
Posted by Torak on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I have had more than one hunter. It's not exactly the easiest things to figure out (especially why someone would even use stalker of the wilds).