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SideStriderTue 22-Dec-09 10:54 AM
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#29438, "Fantasmal Question for the Masses."


          

If you could choose any three legacies as a combo which would you go with?

This is just a nonsense question because I'm curious of the theran populaces imput.

  

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Reply RE: Fantasmal Question for the Masses., _Magus_2 (Guest), 23-Dec-09 02:04 PM, #12
Reply The ultimate annoying rager, Torak, 23-Dec-09 01:02 PM, #7
Reply RE: Fantasmal Question for the Masses., Daevryn, 23-Dec-09 10:41 AM, #3
Reply Space for low dex?, Valkenar, 23-Dec-09 11:20 AM, #4
Reply RE: Space for low dex?, Daevryn, 23-Dec-09 11:41 AM, #5
Reply Personally, I was always partial to this. (I have dream..., TMNS_lazy (Guest), 23-Dec-09 01:19 PM, #8
     Reply RE: Personally, I was always partial to this. (I have d..., Daevryn, 23-Dec-09 01:32 PM, #9
     Reply Well, I had considered swapping Gates for Soul., TMNS_lazy (Guest), 23-Dec-09 01:36 PM, #11
     Reply RE: Personally, I was always partial to this. (I have d..., Malakhi, 23-Dec-09 02:52 PM, #17
     Reply What's really sad is that I could have had a duergar..., TMNS_lazy (Guest), 23-Dec-09 01:33 PM, #10
     Reply Replace axe with flail, and I agree, _Magus_2 (Guest), 23-Dec-09 02:08 PM, #13
          Reply Edited:, _Magus_2 (Guest), 23-Dec-09 02:10 PM, #14
               Reply I gotta say, I mostly agree with flail over axe., TMNS_lazy (Guest), 23-Dec-09 02:13 PM, #15
Reply I have some interesting ideas. The last one however is ..., Arrna (Guest), 23-Dec-09 10:23 AM, #2
Reply ALways considered, CraftedD (Guest), 23-Dec-09 11:55 AM, #6
     Reply RE: ALways considered, _Magus_2 (Guest), 23-Dec-09 02:30 PM, #16
Reply RE: Fantasmal Question for the Masses., tehlurker (Guest), 23-Dec-09 08:50 AM, #1

_Magus_2 (Guest)Wed 23-Dec-09 02:04 PM

  
#29468, "RE: Fantasmal Question for the Masses."
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Felar - Empire - Polearm - Dagger - Fist of the Titan - Landslide of the Second Breath - Enigma of the Thirteen

  

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TorakWed 23-Dec-09 01:02 PM
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#29462, "The ultimate annoying rager"
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-Autumn Harvest/Harmonious/Surrounding

Gnome village defender, hand/dagger

He'd be a real bitch to kill.

  

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DaevrynWed 23-Dec-09 10:41 AM
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#29455, "RE: Fantasmal Question for the Masses."
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Here's a few I think are interesting:

Crashing of Waves / Space Between Heartbeats / Landslide of the Second Breath (for something like mino or giant sword)

Striking the Shadow's Footfall / Whirlwind of Steel / Riddle of Resilience (for something like elf/d-elf/arial dagger/something)

Place of the Raging River / Maelstrom of the Veils / One With Shadows (really obnoxious for stealth characters to deal with and especially KO)

  

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ValkenarWed 23-Dec-09 11:20 AM
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#29456, "Space for low dex?"
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> ... Space Between Heartbeats ... for something like mino or giant sword)

Interesting. I would've expected space to be nearly useless for low dex races because the helpful repeatedly emphasizes speed.

  

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DaevrynWed 23-Dec-09 11:41 AM
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#29457, "RE: Space for low dex?"
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>> ... Space Between Heartbeats ... for something like mino or
>giant sword)
>
>Interesting. I would've expected space to be nearly useless
>for low dex races because the helpful repeatedly emphasizes
>speed.

Thus mino, which has a non-terrible dex and high wisdom.

  

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TMNS_lazy (Guest)Wed 23-Dec-09 01:19 PM

  
#29464, "Personally, I was always partial to this. (I have dream..."
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Dwarf Mace/Axe Berserker.

Soul/Fires/Cry.

Throw on your tattoo for ####s and giggles and voila!

Basically, you have like 1000 hp to soak up hits while you land boneshatter or whirl or weaponbreak or ####, even pincer.

Then, once you hit around 500 hp for Fires to kick in, you call blood (or warcry if you don't have the head) then warcry for drum or pincer or disembowel loving.

Gearing would be towards -Svs and + dam with a bit of +str +dex.

  

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DaevrynWed 23-Dec-09 01:32 PM
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#29465, "RE: Personally, I was always partial to this. (I have d..."
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Tangent: I think Soul is really overrated. It's perenially one of the most popular legacies, and I can't imagine ever picking it.

Defensively speaking, gates seems like about as good of a bet for stretching out the last bit of HP, and Riddle isn't a bad pick just to make sure that you don't get out-maledicted into uselessness (thirst helps there, but... )

  

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TMNS_lazy (Guest)Wed 23-Dec-09 01:36 PM

  
#29467, "Well, I had considered swapping Gates for Soul."
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But the utility of having Fires start working about 200 hp sooner made me rethink that.

And Riddle is mitigated by Thirst + Cry of Thunder stats. I mean, yeah, Riddle definitely works, but I think Cry gives you an extra boost to your already strong offense.

PS I kinda agree with you about Soul, but there are certain builds it is perfect for. IE Nexus warrior (what mage doesn't like an extra 100 hp to their bond!). Mostly it comes down to, I'm not positive I can get all the gear I need for the char to be successful, so instead of trying to get the perfect pieces, I take Soul and then don't worry about gearing for Health at all.

But yes, I see your point.

  

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MalakhiWed 23-Dec-09 02:52 PM
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#29473, "RE: Personally, I was always partial to this. (I have d..."
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>Tangent: I think Soul is really overrated. It's perenially
>one of the most popular legacies, and I can't imagine ever
>picking it.
>

On one hand, I agree with you and would choose landslide over soul if given similar circumstances. Unfortunately, when you hit lvl 44, have few group options and several airforms flying around, soul can be too tempting. On the other hand, you die alot less than most people so keeping extra +200 hp warrior gear would be easier for you and I also had a truckload of fights end like this where soul saved the day:








<582/1199hp 616m 604mv (1 PM) (civilized)>
Khruken executes a controlled overhead attack with a Thunderlance.
Khruken's chop === OBLITERATES === you!
You try to sever Khruken's artery, but your blow misses entirely.
Your deep gash misses Khruken.
Khruken's shocking bite *** DEMOLISHES *** you!
You sure are BLEEDING!
Khruken has some small but disgusting cuts.

<247/1199hp 616m 604mv (1 PM) (civilized)>
You dodge Khruken's shocking bite and close in for a concealed attack!
Your poisonous bite devastates Khruken!
You dodge Khruken's shocking bite and close in for a concealed attack!
Your poisonous bite decimates Khruken!
Khruken's lance crackles with white lightning!
Khruken's electrified lance === OBLITERATES === you!
You sure are BLEEDING!
Khruken keeps you at bay with his polearm.
Khruken keeps you at bay with his polearm.
You cannot find the Cabal Power within you.
Your poisonous bite maims Khruken!
Khruken keeps you at bay with his polearm.
Khruken has some small but disgusting cuts.

<1/1199hp 616m 604mv (1 PM) (civilized)> art
You thrust your dagger towards Khruken, attempting to sever his artery!
Khruken can no longer find the strength to wield a Thunderlance.
Your deep gash devastates Khruken!
Cyre has arrived.
Khruken is covered with bleeding wounds.

<1/1199hp 616m 604mv (1 PM) (civilized)>
You parry Khruken's punch.
Khruken's punch nearly strikes you before you turn it away.
You dodge Khruken's punch and close in for a concealed attack!
Your poisonous bite decimates Khruken!
You dodge Khruken's punch and close in for a concealed attack!
Your poisonous bite decimates Khruken!
Your poisonous bite maims Khruken!
Your poisonous bite misses Khruken.
Your poisonous bite maims Khruken!
Cyre's freezing bite MUTILATES Khruken!
Cyre's cleave wounds Khruken.
Khruken is covered with bleeding wounds.

<1/1199hp 616m 604mv (1 PM) (civilized)> bers
Your pulse races as you are consumed by rage!
Khruken is covered with bleeding wounds.

<103/1199hp 586m 554mv (1 PM) (civilized)>
Terenthial closes his eyes for a moment and nods at Khruken.
Terenthial seals Khruken's wounds with a crimson fire.
Khruken is covered with bleeding wounds.

<103/1199hp 586m 554mv (1 PM) (civilized)>
You swat Khruken's punch away from you.
You parry Khruken's punch.
You parry Khruken's punch.
Your poisonous bite MUTILATES Khruken!
Your poisonous bite EVISCERATES Khruken!
Your poisonous bite maims Khruken!
Your poisonous bite EVISCERATES Khruken!
Your poisonous bite maims Khruken!
Cyre's freezing bite EVISCERATES Khruken!
Cyre's cleave wounds Khruken.
Cyre's cleave decimates Khruken!
Khruken is gushing blood.

<103/1199hp 586m 554mv (1 PM) (civilized)>
You fail to get in one more shot as Khruken flees.
Khruken has fled!
Khruken leaves east.



  

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TMNS_lazy (Guest)Wed 23-Dec-09 01:33 PM

  
#29466, "What's really sad is that I could have had a duergar..."
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dagger/axe defender with three legacies. Got Riddle for the Role Contest at 36 and deleted at 40.

I was probably going to take Calming (I had two resist magic edges, plus I was a village duergar) and probably Cry (extra -svs from warcry + haste + dam + stats).

I hate you broke Komodo rake

  

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_Magus_2 (Guest)Wed 23-Dec-09 02:08 PM

  
#29469, "Replace axe with flail, and I agree"
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I'd rather have some scary kill sealing ability along with big damage ability like boneshatter/drum. Hell, even a feinting backhand is cool.

Taking axe and mace together just seems a little too far on the redundant side.

  

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_Magus_2 (Guest)Wed 23-Dec-09 02:10 PM

  
#29470, "Edited:"
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I got to reading the other posts, and thought you had gates in place of soul. I wouldn't take soul of the mountain either. I won't take legacies that gear can cover.

  

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TMNS_lazy (Guest)Wed 23-Dec-09 02:13 PM

  
#29471, "I gotta say, I mostly agree with flail over axe."
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I just love axes

  

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Arrna (Guest)Wed 23-Dec-09 10:23 AM

  
#29454, "I have some interesting ideas. The last one however is ..."
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Elf STFS/Soul/flow of shadows

Drow STFS/Soul/flow of shadows EMPIRE

Gnome STFS/Harvest/Dance (Or perhaps HPM? Not sure about exotics for gnomes...)

Arial Dance/Flow of shadows/Soul

Dwarf Gates/Soul/Fires

Duergar Forsaken/Riddle/Calming berserker or scout

Any giant landslide/incarnadine/gates POLEARM

Any giant landslide/incarnadine/surrounding POLEARM

Chosing 3 legacys would be AWESOME and make for a real super warrior. As Arrna I was lucky enough to get an awesome third legacy (Surrounding) which just kicked ass for quite a few of the fights I were in.

There are a bunch of other combos I'd love to try as well. But for lagging my all time favorite would be:

any giant polearm (a certain lag progging polearm) landslide/incarnadine This would really do for some awesome lagging!

  

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CraftedD (Guest)Wed 23-Dec-09 11:55 AM

  
#29458, "ALways considered"
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Dagger/pole elf striking/incarnadine/landslide. I had striking and landslide with ceyraia. But add in incarnadine landing more hits with STSF help and after dagger meldeiction(which it will help you with too).

Added benefit. Insects.

  

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_Magus_2 (Guest)Wed 23-Dec-09 02:30 PM

  
#29472, "RE: ALways considered"
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Not to mention, there is a polearm that lags and incarnadine with a polearm lags.

Put that polearm and incarnadine on a minotaur with goring horns and landslide, with war master powers, and you'd have some serious lagging capability.

  

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tehlurker (Guest)Wed 23-Dec-09 08:50 AM

  
#29453, "RE: Fantasmal Question for the Masses."
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Some combos I would try

Offense:
Chilling/Cry/Trapping

Defense:
Soul/Gates/Fires



  

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