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#24591, "Ever considered making getting defiance unpickable?"
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Hasnt seemed to be that hard for any paladin wanting defiance to find a thief capable to pick locks. Just curious why it is as it is.
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  I have had 7 fort heroes over the past few years,
Vortex Magus,
09-May-09 04:58 PM, #4
 I dont see that as a problem. Kinda like killing tiamat...,
CrftedDeception,
09-May-09 06:44 PM, #5
 Unless your an invoker or transmuter, I probably don't ...,
Theerkla,
09-May-09 06:55 PM, #6
RE: I have had 7 fort heroes over the past few years,
Sarien,
10-May-09 09:07 AM, #7
As an advanced lockpick thief,
mage,
08-May-09 12:44 PM, #3
Yes, I've considered it. (n/t),
Daevryn,
29-Apr-09 07:45 PM, #2
As someone that benefited from that in the past, I agre...,
Java,
29-Apr-09 06:34 PM, #1
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Vortex Magus | Sat 09-May-09 04:58 PM |
Member since 20th Apr 2005
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#24627, "I have had 7 fort heroes over the past few years"
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and I have been a part of all of 4 attempts to get defiance without a thief, none of them successful. When was the last time defiance was taken without lockpick? Does it happen often?
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#24631, "I dont see that as a problem. Kinda like killing tiamat..."
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Theerkla | Sat 09-May-09 06:55 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#24632, "Unless your an invoker or transmuter, I probably don't ..."
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Bringing more people isn't really the answer to get defiance, especially if the paladin is willing to eat a death.
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Sarien | Sun 10-May-09 09:07 AM |
Member since 14th Feb 2009
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#24646, "RE: I have had 7 fort heroes over the past few years"
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I got it three times without a thief with Sarien, and with another paladin I retrieved it at least as many times (Since it was pre-thief changes). Getting defiance the traditional way is not hard at all (if you know how).
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mage | Fri 08-May-09 12:44 PM |
Member since 05th Apr 2008
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#24622, "As an advanced lockpick thief"
In response to Reply #0
Edited on Fri 08-May-09 12:44 PM
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I have personally watched Paladins virtually beg for me to go down with them to pick the lock. Then when we get down there, watch them die, and get other lightwalkers killed in numbers, sometimes repeatedly. Then they swear they're never going to crave that sword again. A week later that same paladin is wanting to go back. I think the apparent "easiness" of getting leads more lightwalkers to their deaths than would be the case if everyone knew it was going to be incredibly challenging.
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Daevryn | Wed 29-Apr-09 07:45 PM |
Member since 13th Feb 2007
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#24593, "Yes, I've considered it. (n/t)"
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