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24591, Ever considered making getting defiance unpickable?
Posted by CrftedDeception on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Hasnt seemed to be that hard for any paladin wanting defiance to find a thief capable to pick locks. Just curious why it is as it is.
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24627, I have had 7 fort heroes over the past few years
Posted by Vortex Magus on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
and I have been a part of all of 4 attempts to get defiance without a thief, none of them successful. When was the last time defiance was taken without lockpick? Does it happen often?
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24631, I dont see that as a problem. Kinda like killing tiamat. ntnt
Posted by CrftedDeception on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
ntnt
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24632, Unless your an invoker or transmuter, I probably don't want your help
Posted by Theerkla on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Bringing more people isn't really the answer to get defiance, especially if the paladin is willing to eat a death.
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24646, RE: I have had 7 fort heroes over the past few years
Posted by Sarien on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I got it three times without a thief with Sarien, and with another paladin I retrieved it at least as many times (Since it was pre-thief changes). Getting defiance the traditional way is not hard at all (if you know how).
-S
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24622, As an advanced lockpick thief
Posted by mage on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I have personally watched Paladins virtually beg for me to go down with them to pick the lock. Then when we get down there, watch them die, and get other lightwalkers killed in numbers, sometimes repeatedly. Then they swear they're never going to crave that sword again. A week later that same paladin is wanting to go back. I think the apparent "easiness" of getting leads more lightwalkers to their deaths than would be the case if everyone knew it was going to be incredibly challenging.
Locksmith thief
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24593, Yes, I've considered it. (n/t)
Posted by Daevryn on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
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24592, As someone that benefited from that in the past, I agree..
Posted by Java on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
It's pretty obvious that the weapon was designed to be extremely hard to get, and easy to lose. That's the way it should be. Having someone pick the lock is pretty lame and completely ignored how it was originally intended to be.
But what do I know? When I got Defiance (the one and only time) it was with Baer picking the lock, and Twist leading the way. Go figure.
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