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StunnaFri 10-Apr-09 08:13 AM
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#24360, "What wins in straight melee"


          

Felar spear/staff.
Arial sword.
Giant sword.
Giant pole.

(heh... i said "giant pole"... heh... I'll be 12 soon.)

  

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Reply RE: What wins in straight melee, Daevryn, 10-Apr-09 08:39 AM, #1
     Reply RE: What wins in straight melee, _Magus_, 10-Apr-09 08:47 AM, #2
     Reply Was my guess too, plus good hp. nt, Stunna, 10-Apr-09 08:48 AM, #4
     Reply RE: What wins in straight melee, Daevryn, 10-Apr-09 09:55 AM, #7
          Reply flourentine vs. spin, Stunna, 10-Apr-09 11:49 AM, #15
               Reply RE: flourentine vs. spin, Daevryn, 10-Apr-09 12:38 PM, #16
     Reply Has there been a good, recent arial/sword? nt, Stunna, 10-Apr-09 08:47 AM, #3
     Reply Yes. He's active right now. (n/t), Twist, 10-Apr-09 08:51 AM, #5
     Reply Tell me more? I'm not playing now, Stunna, 10-Apr-09 09:56 AM, #8
          Reply The arial in question:, Amberion, 10-Apr-09 09:59 AM, #10
               Reply Huh, Daevryn, 10-Apr-09 10:11 AM, #11
                    Reply Oooh... Well, didn't really know there was another atm...., Amberion, 10-Apr-09 11:21 AM, #12
                    Reply I assume they are talking about Kassibaz, Tac, 10-Apr-09 11:29 AM, #13
                         Reply There are a couple of them.., Adhelard, 10-Apr-09 11:42 AM, #14
                         Reply That's the one that came to my mind. (n/t), Daevryn, 10-Apr-09 12:39 PM, #17
                    Reply Yeah I meant Kassibaz. I'm a fan., Twist, 10-Apr-09 01:10 PM, #18
                         Reply How is he making it work? 2nd spec? nt, Stunna, 10-Apr-09 04:29 PM, #19
                         Reply OP Nexus powers. (n/t), Twist, 10-Apr-09 07:09 PM, #21
                         Reply RE: Yeah I meant Kassibaz. I'm a fan., Isildur, 10-Apr-09 05:00 PM, #20
     Reply Yeah, and I tried one once. Only got to lvl 28..., Amberion, 10-Apr-09 09:56 AM, #9
     Reply RE: What wins in straight melee, Isildur, 10-Apr-09 09:32 AM, #6

DaevrynFri 10-Apr-09 08:39 AM
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#24361, "RE: What wins in straight melee"
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Depends a bit on the weapons and whether vulns/resistances apply.

If we assuming something 'neutral' in that no one has either, such as acid weapons, I'm thinking probably the arial sword. Riposte is a decent chunk of why.

  

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_Magus_Fri 10-Apr-09 08:47 AM
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#24362, "RE: What wins in straight melee"
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Man, I look at those four options, and I think to myself that the felar spear/staff would win in straight melee. Good defense plus dual wield. But then I have a soft spot for cats.

  

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StunnaFri 10-Apr-09 08:48 AM
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#24364, "Was my guess too, plus good hp. nt"
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asdf

  

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DaevrynFri 10-Apr-09 09:55 AM
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#24368, "RE: What wins in straight melee"
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I think felar spear is pretty great, but I think in straight up melee it's going to suffer vs. the arial sword because of riposte (despite being a great tank and having more hp). Vs. the giants, it has the issue that its dual wield attacks can't beat weapon resist, though I don't know that it'll definitely lose.

The pure melee stipulation does skew things. If the felar spear can drop the arial's stats at all or get one sword out of his hands, the fight swings dramatically.

  

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StunnaFri 10-Apr-09 11:49 AM
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#24378, "flourentine vs. spin"
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Is flourentine better than defensive spin for the arial and felar respectively?

  

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DaevrynFri 10-Apr-09 12:38 PM
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#24379, "RE: flourentine vs. spin"
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Probably they're comparable. Depending on the situation, I might call spin better.

You can't tank riposte, though, and if we're assuming pure melee, I'm assuming the arial gets to keep his 25 dex throughout. At times I think dagger's (and thus concealed) been in vogue long enough that people have forgotten what a factor riposte can be in a fight that plays to it. I think this one would.

  

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StunnaFri 10-Apr-09 08:47 AM
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#24363, "Has there been a good, recent arial/sword? nt"
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asdf

  

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TwistFri 10-Apr-09 08:51 AM
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#24365, "Yes. He's active right now. (n/t)"
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NMFT

  

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StunnaFri 10-Apr-09 09:56 AM
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#24369, "Tell me more? I'm not playing now"
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I'm not asking to hear anything that wouldn't be very common knowledge.

  

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AmberionFri 10-Apr-09 09:59 AM
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#24372, "The arial in question:"
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Is a village berserker, crashing is one of the legacys. REAL nasty. Really really nasty even. There are a few logs of him/her on QHCF.

Fought them at the rites as Iegob (fire giant, berserker, mace/h2h, cry of thunder + chilling embrace.) Or was it in the circle? Well, I had 0 chance and when I used cursed weapons my odds weren't much better. And Iegob wasn't a fool, that's for sure. (I still drool over the title I was given... heh)

Always shoot first and then call whatever you hit the target.

  

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DaevrynFri 10-Apr-09 10:11 AM
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#24373, "Huh"
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That's not the arial sword I was thinking of. Don't know about Twist.

  

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AmberionFri 10-Apr-09 11:21 AM
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#24374, "Oooh... Well, didn't really know there was another atm...."
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Though I've been inactive for almost 2 weeks now, alot of things happens on CF in that time.

Always shoot first and then call whatever you hit the target.

  

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TacFri 10-Apr-09 11:29 AM
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#24376, "I assume they are talking about Kassibaz"
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Or whatever his name is. Leader of Nexus. Arial sword spec I believe.

  

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AdhelardFri 10-Apr-09 11:42 AM
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#24377, "There are a couple of them.."
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I think warrior edges (e.g., speed flurry, llorenthos) opened up enough variety to make them fun and dangerous. (Imagine people plotting ways to disarm/flurry... ok so they don't all have to be the creative sort of variety.)

  

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DaevrynFri 10-Apr-09 12:39 PM
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#24380, "That's the one that came to my mind. (n/t)"
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TwistFri 10-Apr-09 01:10 PM
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#24385, "Yeah I meant Kassibaz. I'm a fan."
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Selene is pretty suave too. But Kassibaz is the one that came to mind.

  

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StunnaFri 10-Apr-09 04:29 PM
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#24387, "How is he making it work? 2nd spec? nt"
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asdf

  

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TwistFri 10-Apr-09 07:09 PM
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#24389, "OP Nexus powers. (n/t)"
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IsildurFri 10-Apr-09 05:00 PM
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#24388, "RE: Yeah I meant Kassibaz. I'm a fan."
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He is indeed pretty beastly. And has an impaired sense of self-preservation.

  

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AmberionFri 10-Apr-09 09:56 AM
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#24371, "Yeah, and I tried one once. Only got to lvl 28..."
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But man! It rocked! I was a sheated blade under Kostyan. The build was really nasty already at that lvl. With all the nice swords at low lvl made it easy as well. (Later Kostyan throw me a ####load of über gear, even some stuff from the Silent Tower, and it became even more nasty.)

At one point I had 65ish damroll and (I'm guessing) around 600hps. Which is insanly good for an arial at lvl 28. (Or was it 29? I had riposte at least.)

Always shoot first and then call whatever you hit the target.

  

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IsildurFri 10-Apr-09 09:32 AM
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#24366, "RE: What wins in straight melee"
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I agree. Maybe giant if the arial's using physical weapons.

  

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