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High Priest | Tue 25-Mar-08 12:34 AM |
Member since 06th Mar 2008
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#20859, "Soul Citadel"
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I'm curious why Evil's aren't able to have this supplication. Why is it only restricted to Goods/Neutrals?
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Short answer: to balance good v. evil (txt),
Quixotic,
26-Mar-08 02:53 PM, #5
Your rant has nothing to do with my question.,
High Priest,
26-Mar-08 07:14 PM, #6
It seems directly relevant to me,
incognito,
26-Mar-08 07:37 PM, #7
No it doesn't.,
High Priest,
27-Mar-08 06:58 PM, #8
Class/align balance, d00d.,
Aodh,
27-Mar-08 09:08 PM, #9
Good questions,
DurNominator,
26-Mar-08 12:15 PM, #4
RE: Soul Citadel,
Isildur,
25-Mar-08 05:17 PM, #2
Goodie Healers are supposed to be more powerful due to ...,
Rodriguez,
25-Mar-08 12:58 PM, #1
Soul Citadel isn't an altruistic supplication.,
High Priest,
25-Mar-08 11:57 PM, #3
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Quixotic | Wed 26-Mar-08 02:43 PM |
Member since 09th Feb 2006
837 posts
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#20875, "Short answer: to balance good v. evil (txt)"
In response to Reply #0
Edited on Wed 26-Mar-08 02:53 PM
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Collectively, Evil is offensively oriented and goods are defensively oriented. Ignoring access to magical damage reduction (it irritates me that I've found so many barrier sources from whom I cannot request and I'm not supposed to kill), the impression I've gotten is that paladins get heal and antipaladins get iceball.
If CF encouraged the existence of evil healers, then Scion and Empire would completely dominate when they are logged on.
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On a sidenote, it was pointed out to me recently that the evil cabals tend to see a much better distribution of character types (and tend to work together more effectively) than those cabals who allow goodies.
We batted around a few theories, such as evil cabals tend to destroy incompetents and reward effectiveness, but the design of Empire encourages class differentiation: you don't have to be squire 54 or blade 78, you can be number two in the divine sect or number three among the arcanes.
I suspect that people who play in evil cabals are more likely to look for a niche in which they can be useful, whereas the players in the good cabals play (and too often do) what they please. Contrast the present hero Scions and the hero Fortress in terms of class makeup, and you'll see where I'm coming from.
Edit: One thing I hated and simultaneously respected about Niherva was that he expected the people around him to toe a line. His rules might have been arbitrary and without merit depending on your point of view, but the Fort needs a strong hand to guide it.
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High Priest | Wed 26-Mar-08 07:14 PM |
Member since 06th Mar 2008
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#20876, "Your rant has nothing to do with my question."
In response to Reply #5
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incognito | Wed 26-Mar-08 07:37 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#20877, "It seems directly relevant to me"
In response to Reply #6
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It puts forward a hypothesis as to why evil healers don't get what is essentially the defense orientated supp you asked about.
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High Priest | Thu 27-Mar-08 06:58 PM |
Member since 06th Mar 2008
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#20895, "No it doesn't."
In response to Reply #7
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As Valguarnera stated in my thread about some Healer Edges, Evil Healers healing abilities were drastically reduced due to its effectiveness on others. You cannot commune Soul Citadel on another, hence it is a 'selfish' supplication. So why cannot Evil Healers have it as well?
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Aodh | Thu 27-Mar-08 09:08 PM |
Member since 06th Jan 2005
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#20897, "Class/align balance, d00d."
In response to Reply #8
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Or you could just keep arguing it. Whatever.
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DurNominator | Wed 26-Mar-08 12:15 PM |
Member since 08th Nov 2004
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#20872, "Good questions"
In response to Reply #0
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Maybe Imms could either update the helpfile to state why evils can't have it or allow it to everyone.
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Rodriguez | Tue 25-Mar-08 12:58 PM |
Member since 30th Jan 2005
367 posts
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#20860, "Goodie Healers are supposed to be more powerful due to ..."
In response to Reply #0
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High Priest | Tue 25-Mar-08 11:57 PM |
Member since 06th Mar 2008
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#20865, "Soul Citadel isn't an altruistic supplication."
In response to Reply #1
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I'm just curious why they don't have the supplication.
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