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TorakThu 06-Sep-07 04:01 PM
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#19149, "Curiosity with mob "traps" versus PWK death"


          

I've always wondered about this since I remember asking an Immortal in-game (think it was Z) after my fire giant got pwk'd by a certain Death Knight despite having divine saves for spell and mental.

Is there some places that this happens no matter what and is just a flat roll of the dice, or are there measures you can take to survive these type of things such as saves (spell, mental, paralysis?) or even things like your racial intelligence (fire giant versus a drow). Is the rumor true that you can't be PWK'd if you're below a certain percentage of health?

Reason I ask is mostly since I know Cabdru had some luck with this fighting a specific Inferno mob to get something solo, and it can royally ruin your day if your group is in an area-explore (especially Inferno groups) and one of your teammates dies in this fashion even if you know it's coming. Be nice to have some way to prepare for these things besides "alright let's see if you die walking in".

Same question also for super-secret explore mobs that can kill you instantly in combat - figuring this is the same mechanic.

Thanks, always wondered about this.

  

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Reply RE: Curiosity with mob, Daevryn, 06-Sep-07 10:37 PM, #3
Reply RE: Curiosity with mob, Torak, 06-Sep-07 10:44 PM, #4
     Reply RE: Curiosity with mob, Daevryn, 06-Sep-07 10:50 PM, #5
          Reply Actually, I can't find anything., Straklaw, 07-Sep-07 02:59 AM, #6
          Reply Done and done. (n/t), Daevryn, 07-Sep-07 07:23 AM, #7
               Reply Now if..., Torak, 07-Sep-07 03:11 PM, #11
          Reply A diff mob, Hopelessdwarf, 07-Sep-07 11:49 AM, #8
               Reply RE: A diff mob, Daevryn, 07-Sep-07 12:19 PM, #9
                    Reply Lame Airplane! reference inside., Twist, 07-Sep-07 02:31 PM, #10
Reply Resist mental/resist negative? nt, Larcat, 06-Sep-07 05:29 PM, #1
     Reply Well, in that example..., Torak, 06-Sep-07 05:57 PM, #2

DaevrynThu 06-Sep-07 10:37 PM
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#19156, "RE: Curiosity with mob"
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In the case of all the examples you're mentioning here, the same things that help with PC necromancer PWK (e.g., good saves) help as much here.

(Plus, in the case of the mobs, only giving them one shot at it obviously helps. That is, you never flee/reinitiate.)

Divine saves aren't a get out of jail free card. More saves doesn't necessarily stop helping you at that or any other point, especially if your mental stats are ass.

  

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TorakThu 06-Sep-07 10:44 PM
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#19158, "RE: Curiosity with mob"
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So stats do play a part....what about save vs spell versus mental? Is it true about the lower percentage of health?

  

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DaevrynThu 06-Sep-07 10:50 PM
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#19159, "RE: Curiosity with mob"
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It's not a secret that intelligence and wisdom have a part to play in most saving throws. This should be mentioned multiple times in the helpfiles.

  

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StraklawFri 07-Sep-07 02:59 AM
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#19160, "Actually, I can't find anything."
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Out of curiousity, I looked. It's not mentioned in saving throws, or in the stats helpfile...maybe update for some newbie love?

  

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DaevrynFri 07-Sep-07 07:23 AM
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#19161, "Done and done. (n/t)"
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TorakFri 07-Sep-07 03:11 PM
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#19165, "Now if..."
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...you'd answer my question about the health percentage, or three times a charm for not answering

  

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HopelessdwarfFri 07-Sep-07 11:49 AM
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#19162, "A diff mob"
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So would it be safe to assume that some mob in the past that assassinates also is subject to saving throws and the certain health theory is buggy or for that specific skill health plays a major factor?

  

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DaevrynFri 07-Sep-07 12:19 PM
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#19163, "RE: A diff mob"
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The assassinate skill doesn't generally involve a saving throw. That'd be a different story altogether.

  

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TwistFri 07-Sep-07 02:31 PM
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#19164, "Lame Airplane! reference inside."
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The crowd says in unison 'That'd be a different story.'

  

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LarcatThu 06-Sep-07 05:29 PM
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#19152, "Resist mental/resist negative? nt"
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nt

"New payment options w/ Iron Realms"

  

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TorakThu 06-Sep-07 05:57 PM
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#19154, "Well, in that example..."
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I didn't have resist negative but I had divine saves vs mental (love those braces) and used a resist mental prep - didn't seem to make a difference. Also had aura of despair if that matters.

Could have been an epic failure roll (1) though. I think there's more ways to this

  

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