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AbernyteWed 29-Aug-07 10:54 AM
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#19026, "Possibility of making AP Fire control more useful"


          

to an AP who faces many maran with invulnerability to fire dam by making it blackfire or unholy fire like the archmage does. Makes more sense for a demon like Ninauurm to bring forth demonfire/blackfire/unholy flames rather than heal all the marans who attack you fire.

Reason I ask is that it takes time to get it, control unholy blessing takes like 20hrs between castings and marans all but negate one of an APs hard fought for abilities. At present flames is less its potential would suggest.

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Reply RE: Possibility of making AP Fire control more useful, Daevryn, 31-Aug-07 08:53 AM, #5
Reply I have no idea on the current spread between maran/squi..., elmeri_, 31-Aug-07 09:04 AM, #6
     Reply He means txt, Larcat, 31-Aug-07 09:30 AM, #7
Reply RE: Possibility of making AP Fire control more useful, incognito, 30-Aug-07 07:35 PM, #3
Reply I'd vote for rolling it into that edge..., Tac, 31-Aug-07 08:10 AM, #4
Reply Great idea cosign n/t, Hopelessdwarf, 30-Aug-07 05:26 PM, #2
Reply RE: Flames, Mekantos, 29-Aug-07 04:22 PM, #1

DaevrynFri 31-Aug-07 08:53 AM
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#19068, "RE: Possibility of making AP Fire control more useful"
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I don't really see this happening. A-Ps already have an unholy damage control (Sedayamin). In the long run I'd rather have fire as another option than have two unholy options.

In practice I don't think most A-Ps see many fights with actual Maran before they see the frost control. I'm okay with the idea that the Maran in your range might be the scariest guys to you as an up-and-coming A-P. Fire control's supposed to be worth something, but so is mantle.

  

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elmeri_Fri 31-Aug-07 09:04 AM
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#19069, "I have no idea on the current spread between maran/squi..."
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> In practice I don't think most A-Ps see many fights with actual Maran before they see the frost control. I'm okay with the idea that the Maran in your range might be the scariest guys to you as an up-and-coming A-P. Fire control's supposed to be worth something, but so is mantle.

Fire control is a level 43 spell and APs have high exp penalty. To me it would seem that most APs with fire control would have most if not all marans in range.

  

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LarcatFri 31-Aug-07 09:30 AM
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#19070, "He means txt"
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Most APs worth their salt are sticking at 40 or 36 for enough charges to get up to frost control. Most people make Maran at hero, so by the time the AP decides to rank up, he has frost control when he hits the Maran pk range.

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incognitoThu 30-Aug-07 07:35 PM
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#19050, "RE: Possibility of making AP Fire control more useful"
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I'm not that much in favor of that. Having to struggle with maran seems to be reasonable to me.

That said, if you WERE going to allow it, I'd say that it should require you to pick the hellfire edge first.

  

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TacFri 31-Aug-07 08:10 AM
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#19066, "I'd vote for rolling it into that edge..."
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And having similar effect. Not 100% damage, but not 0% either.

  

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HopelessdwarfThu 30-Aug-07 05:26 PM
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#19048, "Great idea cosign n/t"
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n/t

  

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MekantosWed 29-Aug-07 04:22 PM
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#19035, "RE: Flames"
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I think your idea is pretty good, but Maran should certainly suffer less from Flames of Ninauurm than others. Maybe make it do half-damage to them.

  

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