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Topic subjectPossibility of making AP Fire control more useful
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19026, Possibility of making AP Fire control more useful
Posted by Abernyte on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
to an AP who faces many maran with invulnerability to fire dam by making it blackfire or unholy fire like the archmage does. Makes more sense for a demon like Ninauurm to bring forth demonfire/blackfire/unholy flames rather than heal all the marans who attack you fire.

Reason I ask is that it takes time to get it, control unholy blessing takes like 20hrs between castings and marans all but negate one of an APs hard fought for abilities. At present flames is less its potential would suggest.

-----Abernyte
19068, RE: Possibility of making AP Fire control more useful
Posted by Daevryn on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I don't really see this happening. A-Ps already have an unholy damage control (Sedayamin). In the long run I'd rather have fire as another option than have two unholy options.

In practice I don't think most A-Ps see many fights with actual Maran before they see the frost control. I'm okay with the idea that the Maran in your range might be the scariest guys to you as an up-and-coming A-P. Fire control's supposed to be worth something, but so is mantle.
19069, I have no idea on the current spread between maran/squire but something doesn't add up.
Posted by elmeri_ on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
> In practice I don't think most A-Ps see many fights with actual Maran before they see the frost control. I'm okay with the idea that the Maran in your range might be the scariest guys to you as an up-and-coming A-P. Fire control's supposed to be worth something, but so is mantle.

Fire control is a level 43 spell and APs have high exp penalty. To me it would seem that most APs with fire control would have most if not all marans in range.
19070, He means txt
Posted by Larcat on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Most APs worth their salt are sticking at 40 or 36 for enough charges to get up to frost control. Most people make Maran at hero, so by the time the AP decides to rank up, he has frost control when he hits the Maran pk range.
19050, RE: Possibility of making AP Fire control more useful
Posted by incognito on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I'm not that much in favor of that. Having to struggle with maran seems to be reasonable to me.

That said, if you WERE going to allow it, I'd say that it should require you to pick the hellfire edge first.
19066, I'd vote for rolling it into that edge...
Posted by Tac on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
And having similar effect. Not 100% damage, but not 0% either.
19048, Great idea cosign n/t
Posted by Hopelessdwarf on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
n/t
19035, RE: Flames
Posted by Mekantos on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I think your idea is pretty good, but Maran should certainly suffer less from Flames of Ninauurm than others. Maybe make it do half-damage to them.