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dalneko | Sat 30-Dec-06 07:07 PM |
Member since 28th Feb 2006
268 posts
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#15743, "A newbish question"
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Let's say I have a battleaxe. This battleaxe I have is a mighty fine battleaxe since it has a freezing bite and I can use it to potentially own fire giants by hitting their vulnerability. Now this mighty fine battleaxe is also made of metal. Specifically iron. Would I, with this mighty fine tool of destruction, also be able to potentially own elves (high & wood) by hitting their iron vulnerability? I am not sure on this and have tried asking in game but never really got a straight answer. Thinking the forums could help. Thanks.
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Weapon Vulns,
WildGirl,
30-Dec-06 08:22 PM, #2
Uh thanks.,
dalneko,
30-Dec-06 09:20 PM, #3
RE: Weapon Vulns,
Daevryn,
30-Dec-06 11:06 PM, #4
Ornate silver scepter!,
GinGa,
30-Dec-06 11:11 PM, #5
Nope!,
Daevryn,
30-Dec-06 11:35 PM, #6
I once had a giant...,
WildGirl,
31-Dec-06 10:51 AM, #11
RE: I once had a giant...,
Daevryn,
31-Dec-06 11:29 AM, #12
RE: I once had a giant...,
Valguarnera,
31-Dec-06 11:34 AM, #13
Probably as simple as,
Theerkla,
31-Dec-06 11:35 AM, #14
Ooooh, oooh!,
GinGa,
01-Jan-07 10:57 AM, #18
RE: Ooooh, oooh!,
Daevryn,
01-Jan-07 11:01 AM, #19
How about,
DurNominator,
01-Jan-07 03:09 PM, #20
Armored War Barge.,
Straklaw,
01-Jan-07 05:39 PM, #21
RE: Weapon Vulns,
Mort,
31-Dec-06 12:05 AM, #7
Actually this raises a question,
Drag0nSt0rm,
31-Dec-06 12:54 AM, #8
RE: Actually this raises a question,
Daevryn,
31-Dec-06 02:52 AM, #9
Thank you,
Drag0nSt0rm,
31-Dec-06 03:23 AM, #10
Got to ask a few more...,
GinGa,
31-Dec-06 07:17 PM, #16
RE: Got to ask a few more...,
DurNominator,
31-Dec-06 08:12 PM, #17
RE: Weapon Vulns,
Isildur,
31-Dec-06 06:00 PM, #15
Yes,
Theerkla,
30-Dec-06 07:13 PM, #1
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WildGirl | Sat 30-Dec-06 08:22 PM |
Member since 16th Sep 2004
250 posts
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#15745, "Weapon Vulns"
In response to Reply #0
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As I understand it, vulnerabilities are stackable, but the curve is not exponential.
For example, if a race was vulnerable to a metal and an element, using something that had one or the other would hurt them more than using a weapon against them that had none of their vulnerabilities. But, if you had a weapon that had both the metal and the element, it would hurt them more than one single vulnerabilty weapon, but not twice as much. From a number perspective, it would be like normal weapon = 1.0 damage, one vuln weapon = 1.5 damage, two vuln weapon = 1.75 damage.
There are weapons that exploit three vulns, and it would be maybe something like three vuln = 1.95. Its sort of a law of diminishing returns situation. You're still limited by the avg. damage output of the weapon, but sometimes if you can exploit multiple vulnerabilities, its slightly more favorable than wielding a higher avg. weapon with no vuln exploits. Part of game balance and all.
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dalneko | Sat 30-Dec-06 09:20 PM |
Member since 28th Feb 2006
268 posts
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#15746, "Uh thanks."
In response to Reply #2
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But really, that's a little more info that was necessary for the question which Theerkla did answer well enough. Simple questions only really need simple answers. Appreciate the numbers though. I'm sure it might come in handy to know sometime.
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Daevryn | Sat 30-Dec-06 11:06 PM |
Member since 13th Feb 2007
11117 posts
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#15748, "RE: Weapon Vulns"
In response to Reply #2
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>There are weapons that exploit three vulns
Uh, like what?
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Daevryn | Sat 30-Dec-06 11:35 PM |
Member since 13th Feb 2007
11117 posts
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#15751, "Nope!"
In response to Reply #5
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It's blunt or it's divine power. Either-or.
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WildGirl | Sun 31-Dec-06 10:51 AM |
Member since 16th Sep 2004
250 posts
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#15761, "I once had a giant..."
In response to Reply #6
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...who had trapping/chilling. The damage I did against Calandaryl skeletons with a divine power mace (blunt + divine + heavy) didn't match the damage I was doing with ornate silver scepters. In fact, I dual wielded the scepters and went to town with oblit/annihalate drums. You can't exploit three vulns like that?
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Daevryn | Sun 31-Dec-06 11:29 AM |
Member since 13th Feb 2007
11117 posts
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#15762, "RE: I once had a giant..."
In response to Reply #11
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Nope, because the divine power mace isn't blunt.
However, in that case holy + silver probably is greater than just holy.
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Theerkla | Sun 31-Dec-06 11:35 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
1055 posts
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#15765, "Probably as simple as"
In response to Reply #13
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Ornate silver scepter = average 18
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DurNominator | Mon 01-Jan-07 03:09 PM |
Member since 08th Nov 2004
2018 posts
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#15776, "How about"
In response to Reply #18
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Using the wrathing whitesteel sword named "Duergarsunder" to do the extra buff damage to duergars(Material vuln whitesteel, damage type vuln wrath, special weapon prog vuln Duergarsunder). But if you want a real case with three vulns, Mort's acid vuln half-drow vs Humansunder is the closest thing so far.
On the other note, would magic vuln make you vuln to all spells, such as fireball, or just the damage type magic?
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Mort | Sun 31-Dec-06 12:05 AM |
Member since 23rd Jan 2006
194 posts
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#15752, "RE: Weapon Vulns"
In response to Reply #4
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The Humansunder against an acid-vulnerable half-drow, duh. Sure, one isn't technically a vuln and one is just a half-vuln, but it's 3 damage increases right there!
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Drag0nSt0rm | Sun 31-Dec-06 12:54 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
450 posts
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#15753, "Actually this raises a question"
In response to Reply #4
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If a damage noun counts as two types of damage for instance Defilement, which I think is Acid and unholy damage, if something was potentially weak to both would this count as a double vuln? Or am I completely full of crap starting at Defilement?
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Daevryn | Sun 31-Dec-06 02:52 AM |
Member since 13th Feb 2007
11117 posts
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#15757, "RE: Actually this raises a question"
In response to Reply #8
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>Or am I completely full of crap starting at >Defilement?
Yup. Defilement is negative/unholy damage. (To be clear, that's two names for one damage type, not two different damage types.)
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Drag0nSt0rm | Sun 31-Dec-06 03:23 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
450 posts
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#15758, "Thank you"
In response to Reply #9
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That was perfectly clear, I always did wonder about that...
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DurNominator | Sun 31-Dec-06 08:12 PM |
Member since 08th Nov 2004
2018 posts
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#15771, "RE: Got to ask a few more..."
In response to Reply #16
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rend /rɛnd/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation verb, rent, rend·ing. –verb (used with object) 1. to separate into parts with force or violence: The storm rent the ship to pieces. 2. to tear apart, split, or divide: a racial problem that is rending the nation. 3. to pull or tear violently (often fol. by away, off, up, etc.). 4. to tear (one's garments or hair) in grief, rage, etc. 5. to disturb (the air) sharply with loud noise. 6. to harrow or distress (the heart) with painful feelings. –verb (used without object) 7. to split or tear something. 8. to become torn or split.
Based on that, I'm going to say that the damage type is slash.
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Theerkla | Sat 30-Dec-06 07:13 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
1055 posts
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#15744, "Yes"
In response to Reply #0
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Attack verb and material type are two different things and can each hit separate vulnerabilities. I'm still searching for that whitesteel wrathing weapon to tool duergar.
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