Well, that was sorta fun...,
Twist,
06-Oct-10 09:36 PM, #1
RE: Well, that was sorta fun...,
Borkahd,
06-Oct-10 11:28 PM, #2
Kinda sucks,
Grimnel (Anonymous),
07-Oct-10 06:36 AM, #3
for those of us not active,
laxman,
07-Oct-10 07:07 AM, #4
Build,
Twist,
07-Oct-10 12:12 PM, #5
RE: Build,
laxman,
07-Oct-10 03:10 PM, #6
RE: Build,
Dervish,
07-Oct-10 03:30 PM, #7
I did a similar build as a fire giant but with chilling...,
Abernyte,
07-Oct-10 03:49 PM, #8
Cursing tattoo is what makes it work. ,
Dervish,
07-Oct-10 03:51 PM, #10
Curse AND Aristae txt,
LarcatAnon (Anonymous),
07-Oct-10 03:56 PM, #11
I know but I had to delete due to pressure from Imms to...,
Abernyte,
08-Oct-10 03:21 AM, #20
Cry > Chilling for this, by a mile ;) nt,
LarcatAnon (Anonymous),
07-Oct-10 03:56 PM, #12
The formula I laid out...,
Twist,
08-Oct-10 12:12 AM, #18
Wouldn't Dwarf be one of the worst races for whispers?,
Pro,
07-Oct-10 03:50 PM, #9
One more thing.,
Pro,
07-Oct-10 04:06 PM, #13
Flails are the new axe for warrior builds as of dex cha...,
Lhydia,
07-Oct-10 04:01 PM, #14
blasphemy there will never be a replacement for AXE!,
laxman,
07-Oct-10 05:27 PM, #15
I don't seem to have the log...,
Twist,
08-Oct-10 12:09 AM, #17
Why would you think wis would matter more than con?,
Twist,
08-Oct-10 12:05 AM, #16
RE: Why would you think wis would matter more than con?,
Quezzumpliet,
08-Oct-10 12:37 AM, #19
Wis would matter if you had lower con,
thendrell,
08-Oct-10 06:37 AM, #21
Eeew. 350 a tick?,
Pro,
08-Oct-10 10:43 AM, #23
Gnomes with wise-recovery is AWESOME with this legacy. ...,
Amberion,
08-Oct-10 03:17 PM, #24
Unless it already runs of wisdom. The WR is wasted edge...,
Pro,
08-Oct-10 05:08 PM, #27
I've had the legacy and the edge, and it's AWESOME. ,
Amberion,
09-Oct-10 04:51 PM, #31
What I was saying was that if it already defaulted to W...,
Pro,
09-Oct-10 05:48 PM, #32
Because of this...,
Pro,
08-Oct-10 10:40 AM, #22
That part is not dealing with recovery.,
thendrell,
08-Oct-10 04:44 PM, #25
except that it seems to elude that will overrides con,
Pro,
08-Oct-10 05:06 PM, #26
except the imms have answered this question previously,
laxman,
08-Oct-10 07:00 PM, #29
Link? Because knowing Nep, it's possible he gave an ans...,
Pro,
09-Oct-10 05:47 PM, #34
Where the heck did you get the impression Willpower = W...,
TMNS,
08-Oct-10 06:07 PM, #28
I can see where he might get that impression.,
Splntrd,
09-Oct-10 11:35 AM, #30
And willpower has been a synonym for wisdom since I hav...,
Pro,
09-Oct-10 06:12 PM, #33
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Twist | Wed 06-Oct-10 09:36 PM |
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#95255, "Well, that was sorta fun..."
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The build worked about like I expected it would.
I found myself rarely ever fighting mages, though. Shapeshifters some, but other than that it was bards, druids, warriors...was kinda annoying to be honest, since the build was based around killing mages.
It worked pretty well against druids too, especially once none had a level advantage on me, but meh. I just wasn't having fun anymore.
I kept trying to make myself start enjoying the character, but finally decided that despite spending a lot of hours perfecting stuff like entwine/etc., I simply wasn't enjoying it.
Thanks to everyone I interacted with. Ohbehb, thanks for the induct.
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#95260, "Kinda sucks"
In response to Reply #1
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Your more than welcome to come back to the Village!
We never really got to muck around together all that much, but still you always seemed solid to me.
Good luck with what you roll next.
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laxman | Thu 07-Oct-10 07:07 AM |
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#95261, "for those of us not active"
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laxman | Thu 07-Oct-10 03:10 PM |
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#95266, "RE: Build"
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You know twist I would have to say that build is pretty much designed not to fight mages but to fight warriors, bards, druids, etc.
I mean while lash is great entwine is not super effective against mages since they all have word of recall.
Hand is more neccesary when you deal with maledictors which are really only a-p's and necros and they tend to be a minority of the mage crowd.
The most common mage fight/kill is shifters and vital isn't exactly big on maledictions.
I mean the combo itself has great potential but I don't see how you envisioned it to be a mage killing combo. Only A-P's can dirt kick btw.
I am curious about the whispers legacy though. What kind of hp regen would you say you were seeing with it per tick while just walking around (standing) (10-50, 50-100, 100-150, 150-200)
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Abernyte | Thu 07-Oct-10 03:49 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#95268, "I did a similar build as a fire giant but with chilling..."
In response to Reply #7
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The build was all about killing mages and ppl who came into the village. Lash works for mages outside reliably.
It was also quite cool for me that my tattoo cursed. I surprised a few mages with that, let me tell you.
-----Abernyte
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#95271, "Curse AND Aristae txt"
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Deleting that was dumb. IIRC you had all 100s. Basically one of the most powerful combos possible, IMHO, given the spam prac being done and having that tat.
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Abernyte | Fri 08-Oct-10 03:21 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#95283, "I know but I had to delete due to pressure from Imms to..."
In response to Reply #11
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which was basically done and just needed tarting up and tweaking but I was getting stiffed by Valg at the time and in retrospect should have just deleted Grogim instead of Broghelan.
-----Abernyte
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#95272, "Cry > Chilling for this, by a mile ;) nt"
In response to Reply #8
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Pro | Thu 07-Oct-10 03:50 PM |
Member since 14th Apr 2010
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#95269, "Wouldn't Dwarf be one of the worst races for whispers?"
In response to Reply #5
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With only a 19 wis max?
How well did it work for you?
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Pro | Thu 07-Oct-10 04:00 PM |
Member since 14th Apr 2010
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#95273, "One more thing."
In response to Reply #9
Edited on Thu 07-Oct-10 04:06 PM
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Also, you laid waste to an arial experiment of mine in like Two or three rounds without missing once.
I had a stupid amount of -AC (Probably -350 or more)at Level 15, as well as parry and shield block and you went right through it.
Nobody else in the game even hit me once with normal Melee up to that point. Why were you able to so easilly bypass that as a lvl 20 flail spec? You didn't seem to be wearing anything amazing at the time. Any idea?
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Lhydia | Thu 07-Oct-10 04:01 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
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#95274, "Flails are the new axe for warrior builds as of dex cha..."
In response to Reply #13
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laxman | Thu 07-Oct-10 05:27 PM |
Member since 18th Aug 2003
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#95275, "blasphemy there will never be a replacement for AXE!"
In response to Reply #14
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thendrell | Fri 08-Oct-10 06:37 AM |
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#95284, "Wis would matter if you had lower con"
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It would if you had the edge and wis was higher than con, but it appears to work off of your regen and act as a multiplier which will be con based unless you have the edge and wise recovery. I did take whispers with a 19 con char, took all the healing edges. Could heal about 350 per tick when asleep. So I imagine all that with 25 con would be much higher. Did not take wise recovery though, as 19 to 21 seemed not worth it.
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Pro | Fri 08-Oct-10 10:43 AM |
Member since 14th Apr 2010
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#95286, "Eeew. 350 a tick?"
In response to Reply #21
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That would definitly back up Twists experience with big con.
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Amberion | Fri 08-Oct-10 03:17 PM |
Member since 06th Jun 2007
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#95289, "Gnomes with wise-recovery is AWESOME with this legacy. ..."
In response to Reply #23
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N/T Always shoot first and then call whatever you hit the target.
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Pro | Fri 08-Oct-10 05:08 PM |
Member since 14th Apr 2010
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#95292, "Unless it already runs of wisdom. The WR is wasted edge..."
In response to Reply #24
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Pro | Sat 09-Oct-10 05:41 PM |
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#95304, "What I was saying was that if it already defaulted to W..."
In response to Reply #31
Edited on Sat 09-Oct-10 05:48 PM
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Then the Wise Recovery edge was unnecesary and thus a waste of edge points.
So you might have thought the edge WR was kicking azz but in reality it was taking no part in the equation.
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Pro | Fri 08-Oct-10 10:40 AM |
Member since 14th Apr 2010
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#95285, "Because of this..."
In response to Reply #16
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WHISPERS OF THE GREAT SEIGE Those warriors who heard the Whispers of the Great Siege knew the nature of hardship, and are tenacious even in lean times. Learning to quickly recover from injury, and stretch rations of food and water to their limits, these warriors learned to SUBSTITUTE WILLPOWER for more mundane needs of the flesh, fighting on through the worst of conditions.
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thendrell | Fri 08-Oct-10 04:44 PM |
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#95290, "That part is not dealing with recovery."
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The will power part might imply something about what immediately precedes it. Stretching rations of food and water, they subsist on will power instead of those things. Whispers you have to eat and drink less.
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Pro | Fri 08-Oct-10 05:06 PM |
Member since 14th Apr 2010
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#95291, "except that it seems to elude that will overrides con"
In response to Reply #25
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Read all the way through that sentence.
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laxman | Fri 08-Oct-10 07:00 PM |
Member since 18th Aug 2003
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#95296, "except the imms have answered this question previously"
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and this is really not the right place for discussion but nep at one point was kind enough to explain the interaction between whispers and wise recovery.
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Pro | Sat 09-Oct-10 05:47 PM |
Member since 14th Apr 2010
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#95306, "Link? Because knowing Nep, it's possible he gave an ans..."
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And people happily ran with the wrong conclusion.
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TMNS | Fri 08-Oct-10 06:07 PM |
Member since 10th Jun 2009
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#95293, "Where the heck did you get the impression Willpower = W..."
In response to Reply #22
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I mean, I really shouldn't even be asking since I know the answer.
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Splntrd | Sat 09-Oct-10 11:35 AM |
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#95301, "I can see where he might get that impression."
In response to Reply #28
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Will saves in DnD are calculated using your wisdom modifier. Splntrd
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Pro | Sat 09-Oct-10 05:44 PM |
Member since 14th Apr 2010
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#95305, "And willpower has been a synonym for wisdom since I hav..."
In response to Reply #30
Edited on Sat 09-Oct-10 06:12 PM
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