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#90317, "Dregthun is done."
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Not much to say really. I saw some really cool fights, really cool characters.. and I saw some really ####ty fights, and some really ####ty characters.
Enlilth is a phenomonal IMM and I highly recommend anyone wanting a great experience to try and follow him.
I usually always make some big goodbye, but I can't stomach it anymore. I quit for a long time after Kyaltaru... Made Taruksil, Karukinn, and now Dregthun since, and although I felt like I was successful on all of them, I see a lot of crappy character interactions, obvious OOC connections, and lowbie full looting at it's finest. Mixed with low player numbers, I just can't keep dealing with it, it's not fun to me at all, and was a good second wind to remind me I need to find other things to be doing.
Anyways, I'll reply if anyone has anything to say. Until then, you guys have fun in the fields. Take care.
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A huge up and comer like this deleting is a big blow to...,
Jeikdurr (Guest),
10-Feb-10 11:49 AM, #36
I'll miss the Dunn.,
Jazon (Guest),
10-Feb-10 08:26 AM, #29
Pfft,
Guilo,
10-Feb-10 10:51 AM, #34
We had a couple of fights... sorry to see you go.,
Droma (Guest),
10-Feb-10 08:25 AM, #28
Nah you didn't sour anything.,
Guilo,
10-Feb-10 10:41 AM, #30
I'm not going to say much since I'm still active...,
Ckath (Guest),
10-Feb-10 07:27 AM, #27
Likewise brutha~,
Guilo,
10-Feb-10 10:41 AM, #31
Do not know why..,
Aerthimes (Guest),
10-Feb-10 02:49 AM, #24
Was just because...,
Guilo,
10-Feb-10 10:47 AM, #33
RE: Dregthun is done.,
Melememelem (Guest),
09-Feb-10 11:14 PM, #23
You were my favorite.,
Guilo,
10-Feb-10 10:44 AM, #32
I saw you twice.,
Patakie (Guest),
09-Feb-10 10:42 PM, #21
Yeah I like messing with Heralds,
Guilo,
10-Feb-10 10:53 AM, #35
Was fun talking to you in the shrine.,
TMNS_lazy (Guest),
09-Feb-10 09:30 PM, #16
I already knew about it.,
Guilo,
09-Feb-10 10:35 PM, #20
People not knowing what I said and saying it back to me...,
TMNS_lazy (Guest),
09-Feb-10 11:01 PM, #22
RE: Dregthun is done.,
Enlilth,
09-Feb-10 07:57 PM, #6
You were so cool.,
Dregthun (Guest),
09-Feb-10 08:07 PM, #8
It's not hard to get to Thar Acacia as mino. You'd not ...,
Alex (Guest),
09-Feb-10 08:50 PM, #12
Ahhh, guess I just don't know about something then, huh...,
Dregthun (Guest),
09-Feb-10 08:55 PM, #14
I'll add...,
Adekar,
09-Feb-10 08:09 PM, #9
I really tried to make it something different,
Dregthun (Guest),
09-Feb-10 08:14 PM, #10
Weak,
Adarmar (Guest),
09-Feb-10 07:49 PM, #4
Yeah...,
Dregthun (Guest),
09-Feb-10 07:55 PM, #5
Quite weak impression as for me,
Derian (Guest),
09-Feb-10 07:35 PM, #1
Or it just shows how silly you are.,
Dregthun (Guest),
09-Feb-10 07:40 PM, #2
Seconded n.t.,
Observer (Guest),
09-Feb-10 07:41 PM, #3
Honestly dude?,
Blade (Guest),
09-Feb-10 08:05 PM, #7
RE: Honestly dude?,
Derian (Guest),
09-Feb-10 08:16 PM, #11
you don't have to listen to the leaders of other sects,
quas (Guest),
09-Feb-10 08:54 PM, #13
High priest can demote other sect members n/t,
NMTehW (Guest),
09-Feb-10 09:28 PM, #15
Yeah, but you need to be able to justify it.,
TMNS_lazy (Guest),
09-Feb-10 09:32 PM, #18
Depending on how the matter is policed by Enlilth/Twist...,
Scrimbul,
09-Feb-10 10:38 PM, #19
I promo'd and demo'd where there was a sect leader,
Daurwyn2 (Guest),
10-Feb-10 04:01 AM, #25
Good Lord you like harping on that.,
Lhydia,
10-Feb-10 07:19 AM, #26
Tell this to others? I know this already. :),
Derian (Guest),
09-Feb-10 09:31 PM, #17
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#90362, "A huge up and comer like this deleting is a big blow to..."
In response to Reply #0
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I liked Thun, the rp, the pk, the toughness..
I don't like mino speech though so bleh
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#90355, "I'll miss the Dunn."
In response to Reply #0
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I guess I'm not sure i believe all of your reasons for deleting though. Was there other stuff factored in? Was it not fun and if it wasn't..then I understand.
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#90354, "We had a couple of fights... sorry to see you go."
In response to Reply #0
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I love logging in and seeing 3-4 Imperials I can fight. Our last battle in the Village was pretty one-sided, but I'm pretty sure you got 95% of your gear back, even with the lowbie looters around.
Hope I didn't sour anything for you and you come back with something you enjoy more.
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#90353, "I'm not going to say much since I'm still active..."
In response to Reply #0
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But I did enjoy all our interactions, and we had some mutual respect even though we were advesaries in a way.
Good job! I hope you come back soon.
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Guilo | Wed 10-Feb-10 10:41 AM |
Member since 09th May 2008
367 posts
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#90357, "Likewise brutha~"
In response to Reply #27
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#90346, "Do not know why.."
In response to Reply #0
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..you decided to hate me but I was hoping to get some more mileage out of the fun RP angle it created. It always hard to give quick replies to Minos (I need the time to decipher it! =) ) but I liked it non the less.
Hope you had some good times jammed in along with the bad.
Good Luck with what ever you do next.
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#90343, "RE: Dregthun is done."
In response to Reply #0
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#### you for deleting. Was looking forward to real fun in the future. Sorry you had a rough time, we've all been there. But you had to know we had your back and you'd have been regeared in a day. Big sigh.
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#90341, "I saw you twice."
In response to Reply #0
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I couldn't really understand you much though its alright. I was still highly amused by our two interactions. I go through cf times as well. If you find your self back in the fields again maybe we will see each other and I could understand you a bit more that time.
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#90335, "Was fun talking to you in the shrine."
In response to Reply #0
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Glad I've played a mino before so I kinda can figure out what they are saying. Still was confused about a few parts though.
Hope you liked what I showed you with the special thingy. Especially when I made him bow to you
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#90342, "People not knowing what I said and saying it back to me..."
In response to Reply #20
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Enlilth | Tue 09-Feb-10 07:57 PM |
Member since 20th Jan 2008
187 posts
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#90323, "RE: Dregthun is done."
In response to Reply #0
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Weak. I liked this char, was waiting to see what shook out with stuff. -- Try an Enlilth follower today! Enlilth, now with 40% more chewey caramel in every bite. --
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#90326, "You were so cool."
In response to Reply #6
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I had never even thought to try and make an Enlilth follower before, and Taruksil and Dregthun are like my only two Imperials in my whole 7 years here. It turned out that I liked you more than anyone even from the olden days.
I could have easily brushed myself off.. but I fought Sophia in Imperial lands, and Manno randomly comes after I chase her for a couple hours with 40% health and bashes me down. I come back to the notorious lvl 22 vulture in like 5 pieces of my stuff and I only had my weapons and 3-4 pieces left. CF crashes right after, and I reconnect to have nothing at all and nothing in my corpse. Stuff like that is so supremely irritating to me.
Anyways, good luck building up that Empire. You sure have been doing such a cool job as far as interaction and stuff. And thanks for possibly making me be the first Minotaur in Thar-acacia =P
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#90330, "It's not hard to get to Thar Acacia as mino. You'd not ..."
In response to Reply #8
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#90332, "Ahhh, guess I just don't know about something then, huh..."
In response to Reply #12
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#90328, "I really tried to make it something different"
In response to Reply #9
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That was like my biggest hope that I would place and get something cool.
Thanks for letting me know. At least my spot can go to someone that will hopefully stick around instead of me winning it and deleting, that'd be pretty sucky.
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#90321, "Weak"
In response to Reply #0
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I was looking forward to see how it will play out between two of us. Adarmar obviously hated you and saw you as nothing worthy. Me as player didn't saw you in action enough to realy judge though. Anyway shame on you for deleting could be interesting.
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#90322, "Yeah..."
In response to Reply #4
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It was between you and me for War Master. We were going to have a blood reckoning for it once I took my second legacy. You obviously knew your business, it would have turned out to be pretty great I think. My legacies really catered to you.
Either way, it's all you now, so keep rocking. Only thing I didn't like about Adarmar was how quiet and independant you were.. but I'm figuring that was just your role and not even anything huge. Take it easy.
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#90318, "Quite weak impression as for me"
In response to Reply #0
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That thing when I fought the invoker, he was writhing I told you twice to pincer him (it could finish him) and you instead start to bash fully health orc and few others lead me to think you are quite weak. And I was really surprised with quick promotion.
And CF always had lowbie full looting to my knowledge. As for other things you mentioned I tend to think you are quite whiny rather than that really hinders playing.
Well just my experience, dont want to offend you.
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#90319, "Or it just shows how silly you are."
In response to Reply #1
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After your little arguement on CB even with an IMM talking to you, and then a blood reckoning getting called on you and you rage quit immediatly.. I don't think you can really call anyone out on anything.
And second off. He was gushing, the orc was covered, and the invoker had shield of ice... *aka* no pincer, no bash. He could word any minute, I wasn't going to waste my time with it. And right afterwards, I caught him without shield of ice up and killed him and then Sigator together.
And don't worry, after seeing you IC and OOC speak, I'm not offended.
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#90320, "Seconded n.t."
In response to Reply #1
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#90324, "Honestly dude?"
In response to Reply #1
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You talk and act IC like an actual RL 12 year old. Its almost disgusting, I was praying you deleted after you bitched out of fighting Melememelem.
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#90329, "RE: Honestly dude?"
In response to Reply #7
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I was really angry. Full looted, spam killed 3 times due to Melem's orders and now she tells me complete #### to return what I got from kill I earned and demotes when I broke no law.
I was going to delete anyway, so I let me steam went out.
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#90331, "you don't have to listen to the leaders of other sects"
In response to Reply #11
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#90333, "High priest can demote other sect members n/t"
In response to Reply #13
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#90337, "Yeah, but you need to be able to justify it."
In response to Reply #15
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Which is easier than other times, to be honest.
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Scrimbul | Tue 09-Feb-10 10:29 PM |
Member since 22nd Apr 2003
884 posts
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#90339, "Depending on how the matter is policed by Enlilth/Twist..."
In response to Reply #18
Edited on Tue 09-Feb-10 10:38 PM
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The High Priest is well within their rights to promote and demote in the absence of another more specific authority such as the Sect Leader, but needs to be careful that:
There exists no sect leader in the sect you are going to police.
There is no Emperor for the matter to default to.
You need a justification ready because the matter will probably come under review of the empire leaders. Who you're empowered by also affects your authority in this situation.
I was praised for demoting and chiding Jalim's assassin (but admittedly wasn't aware his oddly uber-conservative behavior was because assassinate was broken) when he decided mouthing off to the High Priestess and disobeying her orders was a good idea and the spot for Shadow Lord was in contention.
But Twist also, probably because of how much time he was spending on Dupmasione, failed to notice when I was promoting on merit, again often either with another Sect Leader's permission to keep the Empire as a whole stong, or with no Sect Leader present to keep things fluid in that given sect, typically Shadow. When he figured out what I was doing when I deleted, our opinions differed. Enlilth has yet to comment on that specific situation. Another responsibility I usually took as High Priest was to promote Oaths, such as ones who were demoted for breaking Imperial Law or who had served admirably or had at least been around long enough that it served no purpose to leave them as an Oath.
If there is no Emperor, functionally with the ability to promote and demote in any sect the High Priest can function as a mini-emperor depending on how far they push it before they get 'the talk'. They are also the mortal arbiters of Imperial Law (though the inability to promote/demote from afar and without checking detect hidden tends to thoroughly hamper this responsibility, they have it worse than most Tribunal) with the responsibility to demote people who break or skirt it and promote again when they've served penance (Twist implied this often is in the form of a bribe). The reason this particular twist exists for the High Priest and them alone is they are the voice of the Immortal Leaders of Empire, and without a leniency in regards to the use of these abilities they won't truly have that title. All matters for them, like most Sect Leaders will be talked over in private and no one smart enough to be Emperor sasses their own Sect Leader on the cabal channel.
For all matters not related to Imperial Law, which in and of itself can be a broad spectrum of situations depending on your role, the High Priest needs to default to the Sect Leader even when dealing with someone being a smart-mouth unless for very specific situations. Mouthing off to someone higher rank than you is never a smart thing to do, but is entirely viable roleplay that you most probably won't be punished for if it's a different sect.
Edited to add: None of the above means the High Priest can make orders such as when to raid of other sects. They are arbiters, judges and overseers, not commanders/generals/tacticians.
Bard Repertoire Clarifications: http://forums.carrionfields.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=6&topic_id=23735&mesg_id=23735&page=
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#90349, "I promo'd and demo'd where there was a sect leader"
In response to Reply #19
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Basically as far as I was concerned, I was more important than their sect leader, so I was going to promote and demote as I saw fit.
Nothing gave me greater pleasure than some doofus mouthing off to me and saying that I was an idiot for telling him I'd demote him if he did X again, because I couldn't. So I did, and he deleted over it.
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#90336, "Tell this to others? I know this already. :)"
In response to Reply #13
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There is one exception: when the Imperial law is broken.
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