Dear Griz:,
Valguarnera,
27-Aug-08 07:36 AM, #34
Good Char..smtxt,
Krugan (Guest),
26-Aug-08 11:27 PM, #27
YANPACPOTCIL Paladin.,
Griz (Guest),
26-Aug-08 06:46 PM, #18
I interpreted the code differently with this Paladin.,
Lhydia,
26-Aug-08 06:59 PM, #19
I dont lie.,
Griz (Guest),
26-Aug-08 10:02 PM, #25
Nobody says you are lying,
Vortex Magus,
26-Aug-08 10:07 PM, #28
RE: YANPACPOTCIL Paladin.,
Daevryn,
26-Aug-08 07:38 PM, #20
Based on what?,
Griz (Guest),
26-Aug-08 08:26 PM, #21
RE: Based on what?,
Daevryn,
26-Aug-08 10:00 PM, #24
No reason?,
Griz (Guest),
26-Aug-08 10:40 PM, #26
RE: No reason?,
Daevryn,
27-Aug-08 08:54 AM, #30
RE: No reason?,
Mike (Guest),
27-Aug-08 09:12 AM, #31
RE: No reason?,
Daevryn,
27-Aug-08 09:18 AM, #32
Deal. nt,
Mike (Guest),
27-Aug-08 09:22 AM, #33
Dude. I honestly wish I had logged the whole thing.,
Lhydia,
27-Aug-08 07:45 AM, #36
RE: Dude. I honestly wish I had logged the whole thing...,
Isildur,
27-Aug-08 08:00 AM, #29
No.,
Lhydia,
27-Aug-08 08:09 AM, #35
Served.~,
Aodh,
26-Aug-08 08:32 PM, #22
Nsubstantiated and irrelivant.,
Griz (Guest),
26-Aug-08 09:30 PM, #23
Props,
Iltanthal (Guest),
26-Aug-08 02:22 PM, #14
Ha.,
Lhydia,
26-Aug-08 05:06 PM, #15
You totally had a short fuse,
Kernagor (Guest),
26-Aug-08 05:34 PM, #16
RE: You totally had a short fuse,
Lhydia,
26-Aug-08 06:02 PM, #17
RE: (DELETED) [FORTRESS] Gruffil Blackale the Sword of ...,
Relm (Guest),
25-Aug-08 06:30 PM, #5
RE: (DELETED) [FORTRESS] Gruffil Blackale the Sword of ...,
Saerali,
25-Aug-08 06:18 PM, #4
RE: (DELETED) [FORTRESS] Gruffil Blackale the Sword of ...,
Inger (Guest),
25-Aug-08 05:14 PM, #3
Can't say I blame ya, but...,
Llondolis (Guest),
25-Aug-08 04:07 PM, #1
I think a lot of nothing happened to make me delete. =P,
Lhydia,
25-Aug-08 04:31 PM, #2
Man, I hated the day you maranated,
Nererial (Guest),
25-Aug-08 06:40 PM, #6
Why would me Maraning prevent you from using wither and...,
Lhydia,
25-Aug-08 06:53 PM, #7
Because eyes of flame stopped me getting opening attack,
Nererial (Guest),
25-Aug-08 07:14 PM, #8
Eyes of flame only works on necros and anti-pallies... ...,
Random Person (Guest),
25-Aug-08 07:16 PM, #9
RE: Eyes of flame only works on necros and anti-pallies...,
Isildur,
25-Aug-08 10:28 PM, #10
I thought the same,
NErerial (Guest),
26-Aug-08 02:18 AM, #12
RE: I thought the same,
Isildur,
26-Aug-08 03:15 AM, #13
RE: I think a lot of nothing happened to make me delete...,
Volubryotr (Guest),
25-Aug-08 11:05 PM, #11
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Valguarnera | Wed 27-Aug-08 08:27 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
6904 posts
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#71375, "Dear Griz:"
In response to Reply #0
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#71358, "Good Char..smtxt"
In response to Reply #0
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Thanks for all the good fights. You came damned near getting me a few times in Akan. Let others say what the will I love a dwarf who swears. I don't consider it foul as long as it stays in context and the user is creative. Well roleplayed and I am sure we will see you around again soon.
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#71339, "YANPACPOTCIL Paladin."
In response to Reply #0
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Translated this means Yet Another Pick And Choose The Parts Of The Code I Like Paladin.
I hope Im not the only player that that this was a spectacular example of what a Paladin SHOULDN'T be...EVER!
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#71351, "I dont lie."
In response to Reply #19
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And this post really points to my assumption you were really playing a foul mouthed dwarf just to be your self.
I welcome any log of me lying.
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Vortex Magus | Wed 27-Aug-08 07:35 AM |
Member since 20th Apr 2005
400 posts
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#71352, "Nobody says you are lying"
In response to Reply #25
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Its just that you are displaying signs of Ixilth syndrome, where you think you did much better than you really did, and that other players were far less deserving of what they really were.
Clearly you think your character > Gruffil in every way
Clearly other people disagree. Including an imm. Who is right or wrong is entirely subjective, and no matter what you say is not really up to you.
Not all paladins have to be cookie cutter pallies who put every step exactly right, all talk the same way, and do every single thing in the exact way that leaves you satisfied. Sorry.
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Daevryn | Tue 26-Aug-08 07:38 PM |
Member since 13th Feb 2007
11117 posts
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#71343, "RE: YANPACPOTCIL Paladin."
In response to Reply #18
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While I don't think Gruffil was perfect...
He was a better paladin than you were a Rager.
Glass houses, stones, etc.
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#71344, "Based on what?"
In response to Reply #20
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Certainly not based upon Griz trying to live up to old school ideals and a perceived code.
I you are comparing his kills to mine sure, but when Griz ####ed up he made himself pay if nobaody else did.
All I saw from Gruff was swearing and personal attacks.
You cant be serious.
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Daevryn | Tue 26-Aug-08 10:00 PM |
Member since 13th Feb 2007
11117 posts
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#71350, "RE: Based on what?"
In response to Reply #21
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Easiest example:
To me, berserker rager ganging on non-mages for no reason I can really comprehend is a bigger transgression than a paladin who swears.
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#71355, "No reason?"
In response to Reply #24
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I can only assume you never read any of Griz's notes or listened to him explain his actions over the CB. Griz tried to warn Gruiffill of an outlander and Gruiffill immediatly cussed him out and called him a Liar. There was no going back from that point on. You are also overlooking the war that Battle declared on the fortress and must have missed the fact that I NEVER attacked Gruiffil when there were mages in the area. Hell, I stood around leaving him unscathed when there were crazy fights going on eastern because I couldn't determine Parity.
I know early on in Griz's life popped a Drow thief who in my tired mind I thought was a Drow Conjurer and I left his things including his coin if I recall (I may be wrong on the coin) untouched.
Nep, be honest about this. I never sic'ed Griz on anyone for no reason. In the intrest in diplomacy I will say I made mistakes but they weren't overt attempts to powergame or skirt restrictions imposed on the character but established mechanisms and traditions.
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Daevryn | Wed 27-Aug-08 08:54 AM |
Member since 13th Feb 2007
11117 posts
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#71396, "RE: No reason?"
In response to Reply #26
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>I can only assume you never read any of Griz's notes or >listened to him explain his actions over the CB.
Ah, no. I was listening in on the Battle CB pretty much any time I was paying attention, and I think I read all the notes.
I just remember a lot of situations like... some Battle guy is fighting some other guy off on Eastern Road or whatever, and Griz runs in to help gang.
As far as I could tell Griz either had never heard of Battle's parity thing or just didn't give a damn, and I consider it a black mark on the cabal leadership that he didn't get thrown out over it.
In my opinion that's taking a much bigger piss on what your character is supposed to be than a paladin who says fuggin. I'm sure your mileage will vary.
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#71401, "RE: No reason?"
In response to Reply #30
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Uh...that's because the leadership doesn't care about parity either.
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Daevryn | Wed 27-Aug-08 09:18 AM |
Member since 13th Feb 2007
11117 posts
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#71402, "RE: No reason?"
In response to Reply #31
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Let's save that talk for those deletion threads.
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Lhydia | Wed 27-Aug-08 08:29 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
2390 posts
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#71376, "Dude. I honestly wish I had logged the whole thing."
In response to Reply #26
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I walked into the past and saw the svirf warrior Nexus guy and 2 rangers. You were standing there camo and said in summary 'Thats a group of Outlanders, help me kill them' I said, they're not Outlanders, you're lying. They walked off, you again repeated that they were Outlanders, I said that they were Nexus and you needed to fight your own battles instead of lying to others to get assistance. Now, right then I hadn't even been 'foul mouthed' with you, I just said you had lied, because you DID say that whole group was Outlanders, you said, 'Thats a group of Outlanders.' Which was a lie, and I knew it. I thought it was #### that a rager app was asking for assistance from a Paladin to kill Nexun, IC and OOC. Hence me rolling my eyes and snorting and calling you a lie. Then, to make matters worse, you just started bearcharging me immediately and almost die, fled, and declared me an enemy, saying you'd hunt me as much as you would a mage? If I want to call you the 'dumbest fuggin' villager I've ever seen' at that point, yeah, I'm gonna. Fair of speech, maybe not? But better than 'FMSSMF' or '####ing Moronic Stupid #### Mother ####er'.
Battle wasn't at 'War' on Fortress for a few days after this incident took place btw, no need for lying about that. =)
Long story short you just saw an 'easy' kill, went for it, and got pissed you missed it, went for it again, died, and that was that. But I mean, you nailed me later and got the loots, but luckily at least someone saw your BS for what it was and gave it right back, woo.
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Aodh | Tue 26-Aug-08 08:32 PM |
Member since 06th Jan 2005
352 posts
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#71345, "Served.~"
In response to Reply #20
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#71348, "Nsubstantiated and irrelivant."
In response to Reply #22
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at least I tried to make Griz a Rager that effort itself invalidates Neps dig.
Gruiffil has a written recipe outlin acceptable Palandinic behavior. From I saw, he threw out at least three lines of the code.
You can call it an omellet, but if you don't use eggs, all you really have is cheese dip.
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#71314, "Props"
In response to Reply #0
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We had a sticky relationship, me in my elf suit and you in your dwarf suit. You were always grumpy when I saw ya, or so it seemed, so our dynamic was definitely terse. Did you intend to be a gruff character with a name that started with gruff, or was that coincidence?
Aside from that, another well-played character by you. Good luck with your next!
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#71331, "You totally had a short fuse"
In response to Reply #15
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Gruffil got really mad at that upbraiding Kern tossed your way earlier, which I thought wasn't really a big deal and not out of line for the whole "Maran must correct squires when they are wrong" thing. I felt bad that we never really got back into the whole dwarven rapport thing we had going before then =(
On the other hand, Gruffil really, really liked to talk. Yeesh.
You were clearly a badass. Come back and visit when the numbers aren't so lopsided, sometime.
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#71279, "RE: (DELETED) [FORTRESS] Gruffil Blackale the Sword of ..."
In response to Reply #0
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Yeah, the pendulum thing is crazy but that won't change for a while I'm guessing.
If it helps, you were the exact reason I got improved invis as fast as I could. You were a hunting machine. If I was ranking, I'd knew you'd come sooner or later. I enjoyed all out fights, even if most of them did end in me being wrathed til I fled. I kept trying to seek you out to hunt you and in the back of my mind kept saying "Are you SURE you want to do this? Wrath hurts..."
Good luck on your next.
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#71274, "RE: (DELETED) [FORTRESS] Gruffil Blackale the Sword of ..."
In response to Reply #0
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We had an interesting relationship. Especially considering we were both Biddy followers but had some differences when it came to cabal politics. I thought for the most part you RP'd well with the exception of that one time you ignored me. I really was baffled by it because we were bantering back and forth about why the Village is warring with the Fort, a conversation you started. Anyways, everything else I saw about you was exemplary and I just wish you would have gotten to experience the religion more. It really is a cool one. Its too bad Ysal went overseas because that makes it even tougher for one up and coming in the religion.
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#71271, "Can't say I blame ya, but..."
In response to Reply #0
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Anything happen to make you delete? Or just get tired of the retarded one-sidedness of everything? I figured that's why you pretty much sat pre-40 for so long, to avoid the humdrum that is hero range right now.
You were a real solid character from what I saw of you. Good job.
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#71280, "Man, I hated the day you maranated"
In response to Reply #2
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Wither and rot were about the only things that got through your saves, and a day after I got them, you maranated and I couldn't use them against you.
You seemed like a cool enemy though. Still amazed I didn't die that time my connection crapped out with me standing right next to you. Last thing I saw was you scanning for me. Heh.
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Lhydia | Mon 25-Aug-08 06:53 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
2390 posts
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#71281, "Why would me Maraning prevent you from using wither and..."
In response to Reply #6
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#71282, "Because eyes of flame stopped me getting opening attack"
In response to Reply #7
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And I couldn't land blindness or anything else on you once in combat.
Think famish was about the only thing I managed to get on you in combat.
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#71283, "Eyes of flame only works on necros and anti-pallies... ..."
In response to Reply #8
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#71292, "I thought the same"
In response to Reply #10
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But something sure as hell seemed to be doing it to me.
I have been having connection trouble, but even so I find it surprising that I'd find myself thinking he was attacking before I could get attacks off, repeatedly.
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#71290, "RE: I think a lot of nothing happened to make me delete..."
In response to Reply #2
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I was kind of expecting more about the lich thing myself. In any case a much better dwarf pally two hander than I am. I liked the character quite a bit.
Good luck with your next.
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