Thanks CF,
rsmith,
06-Nov-15 05:44 AM, #1
Having had an identical experience,
incognito,
06-Nov-15 06:08 AM, #2
I can't count how many times I was in the same situatio...,
mharlndarn,
06-Nov-15 06:47 AM, #4
RE: Having had an identical experience,
Dervish19,
06-Nov-15 11:21 AM, #9
RE: Having had an identical experience,
incognito,
06-Nov-15 12:34 PM, #10
RE: Thanks CF,
Destuvius,
06-Nov-15 06:43 AM, #3
Thanks for the feedback,
rsmith,
06-Nov-15 07:22 AM, #6
Following devils...,
Zhabala (Anonymous),
06-Nov-15 10:04 AM, #8
Re: Custom empowerment linked to Devils.,
Raltevio,
06-Nov-15 03:19 PM, #11
Forget devils.,
Umiron,
06-Nov-15 03:48 PM, #12
I hope our talk didn't cause you to delete.,
Revax (Anonymous),
06-Nov-15 06:58 AM, #5
Not at all,
rsmith,
06-Nov-15 07:24 AM, #7
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rsmith | Fri 06-Nov-15 05:41 AM |
Member since 31st Oct 2015
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#126148, "Thanks CF"
In response to Reply #0
Edited on Fri 06-Nov-15 05:44 AM
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The only thing that would have made this character more enjoyable would have been if I was able to get empowered. Shame I had to end it early but I didn't want to hit 100 hours and still have no empowerment. But apart from that good luck and have fun all!
Drennor the Minister of Life, Imperial Acolyte ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Level : 35 Sex : male Race : dark-elf Ethos : Orderly Align : Evil Class : healer Practices: 13 Trains : 0 Hometown : Galadon Exp : 277535 To Level : 16965 Sphere : Sloth Age : mature, 135 years old (88 hours)
Your role chapters are: From the past: < 1 > Character Background Added Sun Sep 27 04:03:56 2015 at level 12: < 2 > Empire Beckoning Added Sun Sep 27 04:04:19 2015 at level 12: < 3 > Summary Added Sun Sep 27 04:04:45 2015 at level 12: < 4 > Dispater, Lord of the Iron City of Dis Added Fri Oct 2 02:00:48 2015 at level 16: < 5 > The Dispaterian Faith Added Sun Oct 4 17:10:28 2015 at level 21: < 6 > The First Dispaterian Doctrine: Knowledge Added Sun Oct 4 17:12:28 2015 at level 21: < 7 > The Second Dispaterian Doctrine: Oligarchy Added Sun Oct 4 17:13:23 2015 at level 21: < 8 > The Third Dispaterian Doctrine: Arbiters of Culture Added Sun Oct 4 17:13:42 2015 at level 21:
Level 1: mend wounds 100% 20 mana Level 2: detect consecration 100% 5 mana Level 3: create food 100% 5 mana illuminate 100% 5 mana Level 4: sate 100% 10 mana Level 5: detect evil 100% 5 mana detect good 100% 5 mana rouse 1% 10 mana Level 6: create water 1% 5 mana refresh 100% 10 mana Level 7: bless 100% 5 mana cure blindness 100% 5 mana Level 8: detect invis 100% 5 mana know alignment 100% 9 mana protection 100% 5 mana Level 9: quench 100% 10 mana Level 10: cure poison 100% 5 mana infravision 1% 5 mana aegis 100% 35 mana Level 11: cure disease 100% 20 mana gate 100% 80 mana cure deafness 100% 35 mana haven 100% 25 mana Level 12: remove curse 100% 5 mana Level 13: identify 100% 12 mana protective shield 100% 70 mana Level 14: curse 100% 20 mana Level 15: invigorate 100% 20 mana ardent faith 100% 80 mana stalwart arm 100% 25 mana Level 16: calm 100% 30 mana Level 17: create spring 100% 20 mana fly 100% 35 mana heal 100% 40 mana
Level 18: unveiling 100% 15 mana Level 19: teleport 100% 35 mana restoration 100% 40 mana guiding hand 100% 30 mana Level 20: awaken 100% 15 mana antipathy 100% 20 mana Level 21: sanctuary 1% 75 mana Level 22: spirit shepherd 1% 50 mana Level 23: prayer 1% 15 mana Level 24: cancellation 1% 20 mana Level 25: cleanse 1% 60 mana Level 26: pass door 1% 20 mana Level 27: word of recall 1% 40 mana Level 29: frenzy 1% 30 mana spiritual salve 1% 75 mana Level 30: swiftness 1% 15 mana Level 31: healing sleep 1% 40 mana Level 32: remove paralysis 1% 50 mana Level 33: group teleport 1% 50 mana Level 34: purity of blood 1% 100 mana Level 35: mass healing 1% 75 mana sanctify self 1% 100 mana Level 36: purity of flesh n/a Level 37: blade barrier n/a Level 38: purity of mind n/a Level 42: dark pact n/a Level 43: rejuvenate n/a Level 45: lifeshield n/a Level 47: bulwark of faith n/a Level 51: miraculous foresight n/a
Edit: Any advice on what I did wrong would be appreciated. Felt like I must have gone about things entirely the wrong way to not get any attention throughout the entire character.
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incognito | Fri 06-Nov-15 06:08 AM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
4495 posts
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#126151, "Having had an identical experience"
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In that I deleted around the same level with around the same hours on a lyristeon healer, it is possible you didn't do anything wrong. I subsequently played another lyristeon empoweree and got early empowerment. There can be an element of luck involved.
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mharlndarn | Fri 06-Nov-15 06:47 AM |
Member since 23rd May 2011
195 posts
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#126153, "I can't count how many times I was in the same situatio..."
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Roll something more fun. The bard to the Empire or ap.
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Dervish19 | Fri 06-Nov-15 11:21 AM |
Member since 22nd Jun 2015
7 posts
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#126158, "RE: Having had an identical experience"
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How luck can be related at all? It's not gambling. You mean an IMM may not like the role and deny empowerment? But at least he could tell this so you don't waste that many hours.
I had the same experience with Enlilth and tbh I would really like to know why such situations are possible at all. I prayed many times, sent notes, emailed him, sent a message in AIM - no reply.
I see I am not the only one but what are the reasons? Can someone explain please?
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incognito | Fri 06-Nov-15 12:34 PM |
Member since 04th Mar 2003
4495 posts
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#126160, "RE: Having had an identical experience"
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Maybe the imm was on holiday. Maybe he didn't realise you were praying to him. Maybe he just hadn't had a chance to snoop you yet, etc.
Whereas with another char he might have loads of free time and get to you early on.
I'm talking real life, not the in game luck stat!
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#126157, "Following devils..."
In response to Reply #6
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Zhabala didnt follow a specific devil (at first), but my role was centered around my sphere. It was the imm (who I still dont know) that came to me in the form of Belial..
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Raltevio | Fri 06-Nov-15 02:59 PM |
Member since 07th Jul 2015
134 posts
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#126162, "Re: Custom empowerment linked to Devils."
In response to Reply #8
Edited on Fri 06-Nov-15 03:19 PM
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So a few things here as I've done two of these.
The first was me sort of throwing the player a curveball since I didn't really understand how their general religion concept fit into the CF pantheon and I wanted to mix it up and give said player a dilemma. As such this devil wasn't all that malicious. (It isn't right to thrust an RP angle on someone that they didn't request and then shaft their character with evil evil RP.) I guess this could be defined as "Eshval evil", spooky evil, but not overly abusive.
The second was player requested and was not a specific inferno incarnation.
Note, Devil. If you go for devil empowerment there is a great chance you will get #rekt if you fail to appease them. Depending on the nature of the devil, this can be character-gimping. I personally refine the right as an Imm running the custom empowerment (if I bite) to ensure your RP experience is actually befitting of the empowerer. The same is true of demons, but due to their chaotic nature, it might be worse.
If you cut deals with powerful, evil beings in your role and it backfires, it is part of the role path you opted for. Devils, dragons, demons, etc. are under no obligations to their mortal empoweree and are liable to see them as prey.
Edit: This is not a path for "easy" empowerment by any stretch of the imagination.
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Umiron | Fri 06-Nov-15 03:48 PM |
Member since 29th May 2017
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#126164, "Forget devils."
In response to Reply #8
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It's not about devils or Hell.
It's about giving us certain things. One of those things is enough of a roadmap to play along by without leaving all the thinking up to us. A lot of people cram lots of character background into a role, for example, but don't tell us what Zuul is all about or why it would oblige this random mortal. Another one of those things, and often overlooked, is building a fair framework on which we can establish to hold the character accountable, set goals, judge RP, etc.
If a priest seeking custom empowerment approaches us with nothing more than a spiel about being a really bad guy and doing whatever they want, then that sort of cheats the crux of what empowerment is about. Real religions come with rules, trials, and accountability to some dogma (a dogma that's often not perfectly aligned with whatever the character might want to do). When a player throws all that out, nine times out of ten it means they're just being lazy and thinking, "I want all the good (i.e., juice) without any of the work.". Sometimes that's the reality even when the player thinks they've really nailed it, and unfortunately the nature of custom empowerment means that one isn't entitled to any amount of coaching when they go about it wrong.
In general, I think custom empowerment is a Bad Ideaâ„¢ and should only be endeavored upon in cases where the player understands the proposition and, more importantly, can get an acceptable measure of satisfaction out of the character even if they aren't successful in empowerment. Fortunately, it sounds like maybe that was the case for Drennor.
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#126154, "I hope our talk didn't cause you to delete."
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I had no idea what you were shooting for for a god until today. And then once I found out, it pretty much became a my god is going to hate your god sort of thing, for role reasons I cannot really get into on the forum. Sorry it didn't work out, customs can be very tough. I have had some over 50 hour customs get no answer in the past as well, so I feel for you. Good luck with the next, IC my character wasn't too pleased but of course, OOC I was rooting for you. Its a game, everyone should get to have their fun.
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rsmith | Fri 06-Nov-15 07:24 AM |
Member since 31st Oct 2015
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#126156, "Not at all"
In response to Reply #5
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My deletion was a long time coming I guess.
You're a really great presence in game and I wish you all the best with what we discussed!
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