Sun Oct 13 16:23:42 2013

At 9 o'clock AM, Day of the Great Gods, 12th of the Month of the Frost Giant
on the Theran calendar Zyleen perished, never to return.

I didn't personally see anything bad from this character. I really enjoyed you taking the time to play out certain interactions.

You're great I'm gonna have to roll up a shaman and spend some time on the ship. Thanks for the second chance too

nt

Fun fights, but Village definitely needs to lose some #'s. I can imagine that sitting around with only 2-3 villagers and an orc in your range is boring as a villager.

GLWYN

I have a feeling you won't be posting any replies. But from the bottom of my heart I want you to know you're the worst sort of player to have a villager.

You know why.

nt

I'm not surprised she was allowed to keep his hut though.

nt

I killed him. He whined about it so I told him it was because he'd attacked villagers before. He's a bitch that is all.

nt

For just about any reason.

Villagers have rules - Uncabaled dark-elf assassin (or Outlander) can do what they want.

'm sorry you weren't caught and outted while you were still living.

I only saw you once or twice in my entire life and had been waiting to see you again to discuss a couple complaints I had received about you.

Seems they may have been founded.


On another note - for those of you that complain on a message board about a character, I'm not going to use those details to persecute someone in character. If you're on the board and making comments, make them to me IN CHARACTER and I investigate them.

gr

Your actions fitting your roleplay does not grant you immunity to being thrown out of your cabal for them.

...They delete and roll another one.

That's the problem with zero investment characters.

I wanted to keep it taking a few hundred hours to hero, but I lost that vote.

I wouldn't mind it personally, but from past mudding experience... That would kill the place.

Like empowerment or maran or imperial elite.

Make everyone start at a scout or defender and earn their place as a berserker and then people will feel a sense of loss if they get booted out.

I don't think, for instance, anyone really feels gimped with defender powers - but they're also not "power-gamer approved" as thirst and deathblow.

I mean, you can't even get provincial magistrate without like 150+ hours in and that gives you really nothing in the way of power gaming *at all*.

Applicant to scout/Doc to Berserker. Maybe get to keep double block of you were a doc and discern of you were a scout. Or some such nonsense.

Just because you think deathblow is OP..doesn't mean that I do. Also - the way squire/maran works is flat-out stupid. If they adjusted the other cabals to fall into line with that type of demanding environment, I'd imagine the already tiny player count will drop even more.

I like defender powers and I think they're really good. You're claiming the same, so what's the problem?

That being said, I do think that berserkers have this recurring theme of :

- Roll berserker
- Do whatever the hell you want while capitalizing on deathblow/thirst
- If caught and thrown out, roll another

Defender/scout powers are harder to capitalize on for mass PKs but they're not nearly as bad as squire "powers" (aka, no powers). Defender/scout powers aren't even bad - they're fantastic, they just don't work if you're spamming trip or pincer because they're active commands - which means they're slightly less broken in a ganging people down or picking on goblins scenario.

Anyway, the point is that the whole concept that an Imm will boot you if caught only works if there's an Imm that's active that can/will boot you. A mortal leader has no ability to even investigate these things without breaking character.

nt

Defenders aren't power game approved?

If I wanted to truly power game a village build it will almost always be a defender.

Then what would be your problem with it? It's a more defensive build, less capable of two rounding people, less potential for abuse. Everyone says defender powers are fine (and I agree that they are) so why would you even push back on starting all villagers as scout/defender and then 'promoting' them to berserker after they prove themselves?

I don't see berserkers ganking as any different than other paths.

I also think scouts and defenders are more powerful than berserkers.

I can still 2-4 round plenty of people without deathblow and with field dressing I can join a lot more fights so it nets more kills. At hero village is well balanced and in the mid ranks berserkers gain the least from their path (DB scales at those ranks it fires rarely and is worth 1-1.5 extra hits. At rank 30 I can heal 30% if my hp every 2 ticks, that's so etching that is OP not just something people over react to like DB)

If you want a graduated system than make spellbane the reward, that's the true thing giving village enemies headaches they can't overcome.

"If you want a graduated system than make spellbane the reward, that's the true thing giving village enemies headaches they can't overcome."

Ironically, I feel like that would be harsh. Any rager without spellbane in the midranks where saves are hard to get is absolutely corpse-meat to necromancers, APs, transmuters, etc.

nt

Doesn't much matter though I suppose.

Had the Commander not been evil, I might have talked about you jumping me on eastern right after I fought and killed an imperial, then assassinating me outside the spire when I was trying to retrieve. Then your borderline OOC response when I killed you and looted two things from you really fouled me. I try very hard to give villagers the benefit of the doubt lately, but SHA != SHF people.

That was the end for this char for me. Sorry about that. As to the fighting between us. If you actively hunt me, which you did, I'm going to kill you from time to time.

Hmm I don't remember actively hunting you much.... A couple others yes, in fact I don't think I fought you but maybe once before that... Could be wrong. There are a lot of people in the village who would send tells for me to stay away... Thinking I was hunting them when I was actually chasing a softer target. Honestly in the mid ranks I have always prioritized non village targets first out of a respect for death low and how it changes fights in the mid ranks. However, jumping me immediately after I killed the imperial seemed kind of weak sauce to me. But you have admitted to being a village newb which I kind of figured after our fights.

It's something I've never really gotten the hang of. Well two things. Assassin and village

I don't want to give away who I am playing currently, but I was a non mage, and two recent village deleters came and ganged me down once for no reason. This was one of them. Take it for what it's worth.

I have essentially the whole life of zyleen logged and for the life of me I can't find a situation where I killed a non mage with anyone else. As far as I now the only two non mage kills(outside raids) were zrog and the shaman above tallinicantspellyourname

By fighting his fights for them.

Nt

His words, not mine.

He's gone, you're gone. Time to move on. Whatever actually happened, no longer matters.

lasldldl

I was hoping you'd stick things out. Your build is fairly tough to
pull off but with a little time and luck, I'm sure it can be done.
I've seen it. Anyway, good luck for the next adventure.

Sorry buddy. Had fun while it lasted anyhow gl