It was fun,
CD,
08-Jul-12 07:41 AM, #28
We go way back!,
Sindrai (Anonymous),
08-Jul-12 09:55 AM, #29
Hey, glad you're still kickin' it.,
Straklaw,
08-Jul-12 12:28 PM, #31
You bastard. Should have figured you were that Drow.,
TMNS,
09-Jul-12 01:05 PM, #32
Really bummed to see this.,
Ziruanja (Anonymous),
06-Jul-12 11:09 AM, #6
All I can say is WTF?? How...,
Alston,
05-Jul-12 06:04 PM, #2
rangers can get haste, tribunals get slow, and wilderne...,
morocco,
06-Jul-12 07:10 AM, #3
It's never worked for ANY ranger I have had against Sha...,
Alston,
06-Jul-12 07:58 AM, #4
RE: It's never worked for ANY ranger I have had against...,
Daevryn,
06-Jul-12 08:14 AM, #5
In what way? I've never noticed things like rake or pec...,
Alston,
06-Jul-12 12:58 PM, #8
Seriously, it directly tells you in the d@mned helpfile...,
Straklaw,
06-Jul-12 02:05 PM, #9
If that's what it's saying it's written in a way I don'...,
Alston,
06-Jul-12 02:27 PM, #10
Let's break it down for you once again.,
DurNominator,
06-Jul-12 03:17 PM, #12
I don't get that from reading that.,
Alston,
06-Jul-12 09:07 PM, #13
you know dodge and evade are different skills right?,
laxman,
06-Jul-12 02:55 PM, #11
Try to keep up. n/t,
Alston,
06-Jul-12 09:09 PM, #14
Really?,
Tac,
07-Jul-12 06:24 PM, #20
I failed at nothing. n/t,
Alston,
07-Jul-12 08:28 PM, #21
You need help. nt,
Artificial,
07-Jul-12 08:38 PM, #23
You ruin more Battlefield threads...~,
blackbird,
08-Jul-12 05:34 AM, #27
RE: In what way? I've never noticed things like rake or...,
Daevryn,
06-Jul-12 10:07 PM, #15
RE: In what way? I've never noticed things like rake or...,
OldRanger (Anonymous),
06-Jul-12 11:58 PM, #16
RE: In what way? I've never noticed things like rake or...,
Daevryn,
07-Jul-12 07:06 AM, #17
Does WF vs a Shifter stack in the wilds?,
Alston,
07-Jul-12 07:53 AM, #18
RE: Does WF vs a Shifter stack in the wilds?,
Daevryn,
07-Jul-12 11:30 AM, #19
What is "It" with regaurd to Shifters? n/t,
Alston,
07-Jul-12 08:29 PM, #22
Dude....,
Nreykre,
07-Jul-12 08:50 PM, #24
I'm seriusly not. But I dont know why...,
Alston,
07-Jul-12 09:17 PM, #25
I already explained it to you before.,
DurNominator,
08-Jul-12 12:47 AM, #26
That clears it up. Thanks. n/t,
Alston,
08-Jul-12 10:52 AM, #30
what he said,
morocco,
06-Jul-12 12:33 PM, #7
RE: (DELETED) [TRIBUNAL] Llonevia Silver-Paw the Sentin...,
The-me,
05-Jul-12 04:04 PM, #1
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CD | Sun 08-Jul-12 07:41 AM |
Member since 05th Jul 2012
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#109630, "It was fun"
In response to Reply #0
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My thread has been hijacked. I made Raphoellia(vulture/lobster outlander dark-elf).. but was not feeling CF too much. Then after some time I decided to roll up Llonevia a while back because I thought a ranger tribunal would be nifty.
It was alright. I rarely ever prepped and all and it showed. But I also didnt really care. Thus the reason I deleted. I tried to stay low profile so did not really try to say too much in the way of knowledge. But at times and in the heat of the moment(bigger raids..) I'd blurt out things to do that would help me maximize my success. I just don't have any drive, however, so out I am.
Maybe another time.
Peace out.
Crafted
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#109631, "We go way back!"
In response to Reply #28
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You and I always end up on the opposite team and generally have a good time playing as enemies. We had some fun fights this time around. Your lack of motivation showed through on this one . Over the years our characters have always had good after-fight chats but Llonevia and Sindrai didn't have any.
Whether you choose to come back in full Crafted force, quit altogether or do something in the middle I wish you all the best.
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TMNS | Mon 09-Jul-12 01:05 PM |
Member since 10th Jun 2009
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#109648, "You bastard. Should have figured you were that Drow."
In response to Reply #28
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You are the all-time king of that against me. Shoot me a pm via Dio's if you are confused by this...vague response.
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#109596, "Really bummed to see this."
In response to Reply #0
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I have a feeling there was a lot in the works for this character, coming up very soon. Thanks for the chats.
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Alston | Thu 05-Jul-12 06:04 PM |
Member since 07th Sep 2011
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#109584, "All I can say is WTF?? How..."
In response to Reply #0
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Were you killing shifters in town? Were they already hurt or what? Crazy skill here.
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morocco | Fri 06-Jul-12 07:10 AM |
Member since 14th Jan 2010
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#109593, "rangers can get haste, tribunals get slow, and wilderne..."
In response to Reply #2
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Setting aside player skill, the ranger will win the RNG fight every single time. That said, enjoyed your logs, Llonevia.
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Alston | Fri 06-Jul-12 07:58 AM |
Member since 07th Sep 2011
858 posts
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#109594, "It's never worked for ANY ranger I have had against Sha..."
In response to Reply #3
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This Battlefield is littered with My ranger corpses from even Arial forms out meleeing my rangers.
Wild Fam does not work at all in civilized areas. So it had to be more than that.
What's more your wild time had to be shot. Were you at home in the wilds?
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Daevryn | Fri 06-Jul-12 08:14 AM |
Member since 13th Feb 2007
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#109595, "RE: It's never worked for ANY ranger I have had against..."
In response to Reply #4
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>Wild Fam does not work at all in civilized areas. So it had to >be more than that.
You are mistaken: it applies vs. shifters in animal forms regardless of location.
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Alston | Fri 06-Jul-12 12:58 PM |
Member since 07th Sep 2011
858 posts
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#109598, "In what way? I've never noticed things like rake or pec..."
In response to Reply #5
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Alston | Fri 06-Jul-12 02:27 PM |
Member since 07th Sep 2011
858 posts
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#109600, "If that's what it's saying it's written in a way I don'..."
In response to Reply #9
Edited on Fri 06-Jul-12 02:27 PM
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The only thing it says definitively says is that you dodge better in the wilds.
It is also clear that you avoid blows within wild lands but it doesn't say in what fashion you avoid these blows, nor does it describe what sort of blows. Both the word "Avoid" and "Blows" have many meaning ih CF.
Then the section about "animals and shapeshifters in animal form" is separated by the word "And" as if to some how distinguish it as having a different effect.
It doesn't say if it has a greater effect on dodging or "Avoiding blows"
It just says "And against animals and shapeshifters in animal form"
I have never dodged a shapeshifters special attacks ever with my rangers in or out of the wilds. Not even once. And there are a few mile long threads on the grave yard where I was bitching/asking for clarification and nothing like this has ever come up.
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DurNominator | Fri 06-Jul-12 03:17 PM |
Member since 08th Nov 2004
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#109602, "Let's break it down for you once again."
In response to Reply #10
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I'll explain to you what the quotes mean.
This skill known to experienced rangers reflects their long years spent fighting within the wild regions of Thera. Using their advanced knowledge of the wilderness, rangers who have spent much of their time fighting and training in untamed reaches
General intro. It also explains that wilderness % affects the success rate of the skill.
may enjoy greatly enhanced abilities to dodge and otherwise avoid blows
Wilderness familiarity is an avoidance skill, helping you to dodge and otherwise avoid blows.
within wild lands and against animals and shapeshifters in the form of animals.
The skill works in two different situations: 1) When you are in wilderness. 2) When you are fighting animals or shapeshifters.
So, the avoidance bonus is gotten only if you are fighting in wilderness OR fighting animals(including shifters). Wilderness % affects on how good the bonus is.
I understood it in the first reading that you get the bonus against shifters also outside wilds when I was playing a ranger. It would be redundant to put it there if you wouldn't get it outside the wilds.
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Alston | Fri 06-Jul-12 09:07 PM |
Member since 07th Sep 2011
858 posts
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#109608, "I don't get that from reading that."
In response to Reply #12
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It seems to indicate that you fight Shifters and animals more effectively. But I don't read where it says you are dodging or evading them more.
It would seem a reasonable assumption since it's a dodge enhancer, but I have never been anything but tooled by Shifters with rangers and I run 99% wilderness time, am often under 100lbs in weight and and defenses are perfected. I have never evaded a rake, a peck, a claw or what ever.
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laxman | Fri 06-Jul-12 02:55 PM |
Member since 18th Aug 2003
1867 posts
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#109601, "you know dodge and evade are different skills right?"
In response to Reply #8
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wilderness familiary helps dodge, dodge doesn't make rake miss
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Alston | Fri 06-Jul-12 09:09 PM |
Member since 07th Sep 2011
858 posts
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#109609, "Try to keep up. n/t"
In response to Reply #11
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Tac | Sat 07-Jul-12 06:24 PM |
Member since 15th Nov 2005
2050 posts
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#109617, "Really?"
In response to Reply #14
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You failed at the comprehension portion of reading comprehension on one of the most directly to the point written helpfiles and you think laxman is the one struggling to keep up?
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Alston | Sat 07-Jul-12 08:28 PM |
Member since 07th Sep 2011
858 posts
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#109619, "I failed at nothing. n/t"
In response to Reply #20
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Daevryn | Fri 06-Jul-12 10:07 PM |
Member since 13th Feb 2007
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#109610, "RE: In what way? I've never noticed things like rake or..."
In response to Reply #8
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It works exactly the same way WF works in the wilderness vs. everyone else.
Basically the code says: Are you in the wilderness or fighting a shifted animal? If so, apply the WF bonuses. If not, don't.
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#109611, "RE: In what way? I've never noticed things like rake or..."
In response to Reply #15
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>It works exactly the same way WF works in the wilderness vs. >everyone else. > >Basically the code says: Are you in the wilderness or >fighting a shifted animal? If so, apply the WF bonuses. If >not, don't.
I'm curious, does the code apply to mobs or only to PC's? I haven't played one in a while, but I remember my hero rangers regularly getting tooled by the shape shifters in T-A that conned as easy kills.
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Daevryn | Sat 07-Jul-12 07:06 AM |
Member since 13th Feb 2007
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#109613, "RE: In what way? I've never noticed things like rake or..."
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It might just be PC's, although, the T-A shifters (which are in wilderness mostly) are kind of sneaky in that (if I remember correctly) their unshifted level is lower than their shifter level. It was the first time area-wise we tried to do something like shifting and in some ways it shows.
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Alston | Sat 07-Jul-12 07:53 AM |
Member since 07th Sep 2011
858 posts
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#109614, "Does WF vs a Shifter stack in the wilds?"
In response to Reply #17
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Example:
WF against shifter in civilized areas = good
WF against shifters in wilds = gooder
WF aganst shifters in home terrain = more gooder
WF against shifter in home terrain + w-elf = More gooderest?
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Daevryn | Sat 07-Jul-12 11:30 AM |
Member since 13th Feb 2007
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#109615, "RE: Does WF vs a Shifter stack in the wilds?"
In response to Reply #18
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You don't double-get it vs shifters in the wild.
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Alston | Sat 07-Jul-12 08:29 PM |
Member since 07th Sep 2011
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#109620, "What is "It" with regaurd to Shifters? n/t"
In response to Reply #19
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Alston | Sat 07-Jul-12 09:17 PM |
Member since 07th Sep 2011
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#109625, "I'm seriusly not. But I dont know why..."
In response to Reply #24
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It just reads weird to me. I had to look at it again and again. I suppose I see how it refers to it.
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DurNominator | Sun 08-Jul-12 12:47 AM |
Member since 08th Nov 2004
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#109627, "I already explained it to you before."
In response to Reply #25
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Then Nep explained to you exactly the same thing. I'll try once more:
-There is a bonus to defenses called wilderness familiarity. The strength of this bonus is dictated by your wilderness time, with no other factors involved.
-You get this bonus when the inclusive OR sentence
You are in wilds OR you are fighting an animal or a shifter in form.
is true.
In case you are not familiar with inclusive OR, it is true if one or both of the two claims in the sentence are true.
The helpfile is not written as a logical sentence, but as a list of the situations where you get the bonus. The two cases in the list are separated with AND you get the bonus when in wilds AND when fighting members of list X. List X has two cases, separated with an AND, shifters in form AND animals. The three cases, when fighting shifters in town, when fighting shifters in wilds and when fighting non-shifters in wilds have all the same truth value: true, you'll get the bonus.
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Alston | Sun 08-Jul-12 10:52 AM |
Member since 07th Sep 2011
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#109632, "That clears it up. Thanks. n/t"
In response to Reply #26
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morocco | Fri 06-Jul-12 12:33 PM |
Member since 14th Jan 2010
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#109597, "what he said"
In response to Reply #4
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And this wasn't my character, but I imagine it isn't too hard to keep good wilderness time with the wanderlust skill. AFAIK "home" is at 70 or 75% wilderness time, if wanderlust knocks that down a tier (which seems logical) you should need no more than 50 or 60% in the woods, which can't be that hard, even with magistrate duty.
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