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KastellynSun 18-Nov-07 10:38 PM
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#1376, "Change to Cabal Raids"


          

Having a cabal item in your inventory now blocks all forms of divine or magical transportation. You (or another member of your Cabal) will have to walk back to your own Cabal to down the item.

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Reply Wait a second..., deBriguy, 21-Nov-07 02:17 PM, #13
Reply RE: Wait a second..., Zulghinlour, 21-Nov-07 02:17 PM, #14
Reply Raiding empire just got a whole lot harder. n/t, Derexal, 19-Nov-07 11:29 PM, #8
Reply Good. Maybe they won't be last every week with Scion a..., Xenoroyal, 21-Nov-07 11:01 AM, #11
     Reply RE: Good. Maybe they won't be last every week with Sci..., Daevryn, 21-Nov-07 11:23 AM, #12
Reply What about flying for air shifters? Being summoned? Van..., Vladamir, 19-Nov-07 08:34 PM, #4
Reply RE: What about flying for air shifters? Being summoned?..., Zulghinlour, 19-Nov-07 08:35 PM, #5
Reply Cabal raids are 146.9% less cheesy!, Tahren, 19-Nov-07 08:34 PM, #3
Reply Heh., Odrirg, 19-Nov-07 08:34 PM, #2
Reply Giving cabal items, Zulghinlour, 19-Nov-07 08:35 PM, #6
     Reply Stealing is still ok? nt, Nivek1, 19-Nov-07 11:29 PM, #9
     Reply Yes, but if you're worried about it you can hold the it..., Zulghinlour, 19-Nov-07 11:30 PM, #10
     Reply One interesting consequence of this..., Daevryn, 21-Nov-07 03:09 PM, #15
          Reply Do low-rank characters skew toward majority evil?, Quixotic, 21-Nov-07 05:03 PM, #16
Reply In fairness, Mekantos, 19-Nov-07 08:34 PM, #1
     Reply RE: In fairness, Zulghinlour, 19-Nov-07 08:36 PM, #7

deBriguyWed 21-Nov-07 01:58 PM
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#1396, "Wait a second..."
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This will mess up how Orcs can raid a cabal immensely. If you can not give the Orcs an item it really ruins part of the fun of taking a cabal item. If you're an Orc and do not recieve the item what do you do? How do uncabaled characters raid now?

  

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ZulghinlourWed 21-Nov-07 02:17 PM
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#1397, "RE: Wait a second..."
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>This will mess up how Orcs can raid a cabal immensely. If you
>can not give the Orcs an item it really ruins part of the fun
>of taking a cabal item. If you're an Orc and do not recieve
>the item what do you do? How do uncabaled characters raid
>now?

Drop it and pick it up?

So long, and thanks for all the fish!

  

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DerexalMon 19-Nov-07 10:59 PM
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#1385, "Raiding empire just got a whole lot harder. n/t"
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n/t

  

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XenoroyalWed 21-Nov-07 07:03 AM
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#1393, "Good. Maybe they won't be last every week with Scion a..."
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No, they probably will.

Good.

  

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DaevrynWed 21-Nov-07 11:23 AM
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#1394, "RE: Good. Maybe they won't be last every week with Sci..."
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You're kidding yourself if you're assigning those cabals some kind of underdog status based on the time they have or don't have their item.

  

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VladamirMon 19-Nov-07 12:07 PM
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#1381, "What about flying for air shifters? Being summoned? Van..."
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nt

  

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ZulghinlourMon 19-Nov-07 08:35 PM
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#1382, "RE: What about flying for air shifters? Being summoned?..."
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What about flying for air shifters?

Still works.

Being summoned? Vanish?

Won't work.

So long, and thanks for all the fish!

  

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TahrenMon 19-Nov-07 09:27 AM
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#1380, "Cabal raids are 146.9% less cheesy!"
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Ragers, rejoice!

Seriously, good change. I don't know how it plays, yet, but this appears to open up some new and interesting defensive tactics. And for the aggressor - it's not enough to just plan a way in, now. You've got to get out, too. I can't wait to see it in action.

  

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OdrirgMon 19-Nov-07 02:58 AM
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#1378, "Heh."
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With this change, I'd like another change, to have nogive default to on when in a pk.

You can see where I am going with this.

Or perhaps, make it so you can only give cabal items of power to fellow cabalmates.

  

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ZulghinlourMon 19-Nov-07 08:35 PM
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#1383, "Giving cabal items"
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>Or perhaps, make it so you can only give cabal items of power
>to fellow cabalmates.

I've made it so you can only give cabal items to those of your own cabal.

So long, and thanks for all the fish!

  

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Nivek1Mon 19-Nov-07 10:59 PM
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#1386, "Stealing is still ok? nt"
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.

  

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ZulghinlourMon 19-Nov-07 11:30 PM
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#1387, "Yes, but if you're worried about it you can hold the it..."
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n/t

So long, and thanks for all the fish!

  

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DaevrynWed 21-Nov-07 03:09 PM
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#1398, "One interesting consequence of this..."
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There's a lot more of a point to having sub-hero and even lowbie characters in your cabal.

This is both because a hero raiding against the odds can pass the item to a level 20 guy, and because the other cabal could have a level 20 guy to bash that level 20 guy.

I think most cabals over time have been gravitating more and more (and too much) towards higher level play only so I'm in favor of this consequence.

  

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QuixoticWed 21-Nov-07 04:53 PM
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#1399, "Do low-rank characters skew toward majority evil?"
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And if so, how will that factor into this raiding dynamic?

  

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MekantosSun 18-Nov-07 11:03 PM
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#1377, "In fairness"
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How about making it so that retrieving your item places the item in your inventory as well, and you have to run it back to its home cabal? It should work both ways.

This might make lowbie retrievals a little more interesting.

  

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ZulghinlourMon 19-Nov-07 08:36 PM
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#1384, "RE: In fairness"
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>How about making it so that retrieving your item places the
>item in your inventory as well, and you have to run it back to
>its home cabal? It should work both ways.

Meh, I'm willing to leave it like this for now. I'd rather not see someone grab an item, run off to the far reaches of Thera and just drop it/squat on it until it crumbles like the old days.

So long, and thanks for all the fish!

  

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