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ZulghinlourSun 11-May-03 07:17 PM
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#991, "RE: Imms?"


          

>>>Just out of curiosity, what does no response mean? Does
>it
>>>mean that some of you imms have read it and disagree? Agree
>>>but aren't motivated to write? Nobody reads?
>>
>>It most likely means it has been read and given the amount
>of
>>scrutiny it deserves. I read the forums every single day.
>>
>
>You know Zulgh, I think you need to sit back and think about
>how you react to people. I've noticed a marked increase in
>the last months in your short fuse. Maybe you are just
>generally angry at players for whatever reason, but you are
>very caustic and insulting when neither are called for, and
>when nobody has done anything to impugn you or your work. In
>fact you have been universally thanked for your work doing all
>this bug fixing and coding. I think you are just fed up with
>whatever the cheating or bad things you perceive among the
>playerbase and it comes out - consciously or not. Here, your
>very first response to a purely friendly question is to
>insult. "the amount of scrutiny it deserves." Come on. Why
>would you choose to say something like that? It's just petty.

Why would I assume you are talking about me specifically? I think you are trying to get under the skin of all immortals, not just me. Asking the immortal staff to respond to every little bitch, moan, whine, etc on this forum is assanine and a colossule waste of time that could be put to better use elsewhere. I think you don't have a ####ing clue what it takes to run this game, and continue to expect more and more.

As for "the amount of scrutiny it deserves"...In case you hadn't noticed, there are enough posts that are hardly constructive or just plain assanine, or don't really strike anyone on the staff as something they wish to champion and push for...and they get the amount of scrutiny they deserve. No matter what you hope for, we are not going to respond to every single little thing.

>>>I've always wondered why you don't reply to each and every
>>>gameplay and ask immortal post.
>>
>>I always wonder why mortals think they are entitled to
>>everything.
>>
>I can't speak for all people who play characters but as far as
>I am concerned, I dont think I am entitled to everything.

Just a response to your questions.

>I think I am entitled to whatever the rules say I am entitled
>to, and in this instance the forum was put up - by you - with
>the express purpose of discussing game topics with imms.

And we reserve the right not to waste our time.

>Therefore, imms are supposed to be part of the conversation.

And silence can be one half of a conversation.

>You are in fact soliciting people to come ask you questions
>and bring issues up. A response in that situation seems
>reasonable, as I said, even if it's a "read and not changing"
>or something like that.

And what does silence mean?


>But again, you are being confrontational and angry for no reason,
>and making what was a
>simple question into a fight. You shouldn't.

And you again demand a response to every single question. I'm surprised you haven't mailed the immortal staff every day asking why this hasn't been responded to yet (or have you been mailing only Pico and not the rest of the staff?)

You should learn that you aren't going to get a response to everything...live with it.


>>>At the very least to note it had been read.
>>
>>Because it is a better use of my time than coding, or fixing
>>bugs, or updating areas, or ...
>>
>
>If as you say you read the forums every day - and I am sure
>you do, honestly - then you are already at the post. I
>imagine it would take about five seconds to post a four or
>five word reply. And remember, it is not something that is
>necessary on all forums. Obviously the battlefield or the
>various other forums do not hold themselves out to be
>dialogues between players and imms. But the gameplay and ask
>immortal do. I would think the five seconds it takes to reply
>to those (and only those that some other imm hasn't already
>responded to in some way, which is most) is not prohibitive at
>all, and would not in truth really take you away from coding
>or fixing bugs or updating areas or...

Or...I could not post becuase I don't think it's a good idea or a bad idea. It is an idea I'm not going to stand behind and try and get put in the game, but that isn't stopping anyone else from trying to do as much.

>>>I mean, the stated purpose of the forum
>>> gameplay and ask imm) is to discuss and question the game
>>>with _imms_.
>>
>>And lots of posts do get responses. And things that really
>>don't strike chords with someone usually get left alone.
>>
>Yes, exactly. So say so. Perhaps say why. People are taking
>the time to come and post their ideas and thoughts - ideas and
>thoughts you have asked for - because they want to make the
>game better. They don't have to, they could just play. They
>could just look at the battlefield. But they are trying to be
>constructive and helpful. A simple acknowledgement that the
>thought was heard and either accepted or rejected or still
>being considered seems appropriate.

Posting = being heard. We are not going to sit down and write a dissertation as to why every post here is not going to get implemented, or why it's a bad idea, or that we just don't give a #### if it ever gets implemented. Like this post is turning out to be...it's a waste of time.

>>>When people post to those forums I think it
>>>would be good if one of the imms could simply post "Read
>and
>>>taken under advisement." Or "Not going to happen, sorry."
>Or
>>>"Wow, how could we never have thought of that." or
>whatever.
>>
>>
>>I'll make sure to set up an autoposter for me that says
>"Read
>>and circular filed"
>>
>Right. Very open minded and friendly of you. I'm sorry you
>are so angry that you take every opportunity, or in fact just
>create an opportunity, to be mean. My post was neither angry
>nor insulting. I'm hoping yours can be as well.

And yet...it would give you what you want...a response. Learn to read sarcasm.

>>>Just something to show the person it's not in a vacuum.
>>
>

So long, and thanks for all the fish!

  

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HOT TopicCity Guard Alignment [View all] , Graatch (inactive user), Thu 08-May-03 09:56 AM
Reply Responding to the actual idea., Quislet, 11-May-03 09:27 PM, #16
Reply An argument in favor, Ulthur, 12-May-03 08:28 AM, #18
     Reply RE: An argument in favor, Quislet, 12-May-03 04:20 PM, #19
          Reply RE: An argument in favor, Ulthur, 13-May-03 09:02 AM, #20
               Reply RE: An argument in favor, Quislet, 16-May-03 02:33 PM, #21
Reply Graatch I read your post, and I don't ####ing care (n/t..., Zulghinlour, 11-May-03 05:01 PM, #10
Reply Imms?, (NOT Graatch), 11-May-03 01:52 PM, #5
Reply A reply!, Valguarnera, 11-May-03 02:07 PM, #6
Reply So., Dallevian, 11-May-03 03:26 PM, #7
     Reply RE: So., Valguarnera, 11-May-03 03:47 PM, #8
          Reply Err., Dallevian, 11-May-03 05:55 PM, #12
Reply RE: Imms?, Zulghinlour, 11-May-03 05:00 PM, #9
     Reply RE: Imms?, (NOT Graatch), 11-May-03 07:03 PM, #13
          Reply RE: Imms?, Zulghinlour, 11-May-03 07:17 PM #14
               Reply Graatch, quit wasting valuable time., Quislet, 11-May-03 09:16 PM, #15
               Reply How DARE you.., Nightgaunt_, 12-May-03 01:44 AM, #17
Reply Uhh, weren't you banned?, Rade, 08-May-03 11:59 AM, #3
Reply RE: Uhh, weren't you banned?, (NOT Graatch), 08-May-03 02:37 PM, #4
     Reply I read this post too, and still don't ####ing care (n/t..., Zulghinlour, 11-May-03 05:02 PM, #11
Reply I'll second that, Ulthur, 08-May-03 11:39 AM, #2
Reply I agree, although, incognito, 08-May-03 11:26 AM, #1
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