lasentia | Tue 30-Apr-19 12:44 PM |
Member since 27th Apr 2010
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#72992, "If time permitted, players."
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Due to RL my free time is admittedly fleeting. But I still have time to play generally casual games occassionally. So why is it I do not play CF instead of them?
As I posted on the other site, at the end of my time playing CF, I found large portions of CF tedious and ultimately repetitive. I would have moments of fun, but those became increasingly sparse over time, and it took a lot of hours to even get to the point where I had those moments. (For me, I really only enjoy the hero range)
The question became was I willing to put in the investment to hero a char to play in the current environment. The answer became a no. Without a sizable enough playerbase, the flaws of CF became more glaring to me. Getting into a PK with the same pool of 3 enemies literally every night for a month just lost appeal. PVE only gets you so far when you've done a lot of things already.
The appeal of CF, on all levels, be it RP or PK, is a social one which requires a decent society to engage with.
I'm not saying an increased PB is a fix for the root cause for all players, but I think a lot of the reasons people left CF (besides RL constraints) is the game was not as fun and so harder to justify the time commitment for. Who really cares that they can't have 30 edges anymore? What good is even having a char with 30 edges and a set of legendary gear when there is nobody to do anything with? Edges and gear accumulation was never an end game. People didn't hit 25 or 30 edges, do an eq freeze and say, well, I won CF, and delete and start over.
More players = a better environment, which means some of the other flaws of CF are no longer as glaring.
Sure, there are still flaws in CF's design, administration and in certain players' behavior and responses to that behavior (yay looting based meltdowns!). All multi player games have flaws like this though. People have lots of reasons they claim they left, but I think a lot of that comes down to the PB didn't provide enough of an enjoyable environment to remain playing in spite of that player's issues with CF, be it mechanics, Imms or other players. In the balancing act of whether to commit time to CF, there is a line we all have where playerbase/environment provides enough of a positive to act as a counterweight to the negatives we see in CF.
I have no idea what would entice people to roll a char, but I know that when most do, they may not stay for long if they see online users of 0-10. Cause while Thera still exists, the environment does not. New areas, new races, new classes. They don't matter as much. CF already has a pretty well developed and functional foundation. New stuff is nice and all, and I'm not discrediting the work and effort Imms put into them. But CF really is only as fun as its playerbase permits it to be.
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What would bring you back?
[View all] , Wasted, Fri 26-Apr-19 12:13 PM
Thread's been derailed.,
JohnEveryMan,
01-May-19 09:32 AM, #119
Agreed. Thread locked. (nt),
Umiron,
01-May-19 03:05 PM, #130
Time and a mentality shift,
Destuvius,
01-May-19 03:52 AM, #107
If time permitted, players.,
lasentia,
30-Apr-19 12:44 PM #96
Re: Who really cares that they can't have 30 edges anym...,
Murphy,
30-Apr-19 01:03 PM, #97
RE: Re: Who really cares that they can't have 30 edges ...,
robdarken_,
30-Apr-19 01:35 PM, #98
That's part of the issue,
Kstatida,
30-Apr-19 03:46 PM, #101
RE: That's part of the issue,
robdarken_,
30-Apr-19 05:01 PM, #104
There weren't any videos. You made that up.,
Murphy,
30-Apr-19 10:45 PM, #106
RE: Re: Who really cares that they can't have 30 edges ...,
lasentia,
30-Apr-19 02:08 PM, #100
I'm bringing it up because it's important.,
Murphy,
30-Apr-19 10:51 PM, #105
What did I miss?,
Lhydia,
01-May-19 05:49 AM, #108
I'd answer but you are clearly just trolling.,
Murphy,
01-May-19 07:21 AM, #110
That is objectively wrong,
Destuvius,
01-May-19 07:37 AM, #111
Do I need to bring up the incident,
Murphy,
01-May-19 07:44 AM, #112
And yet you are here,
Destuvius,
01-May-19 07:57 AM, #113
I'm not the only Russian here,
Murphy,
01-May-19 08:49 AM, #117
Might be the words "cheat ring" that get the scrutiny.,
Jormyr,
01-May-19 11:36 AM, #125
I'm not buying it.,
Murphy,
01-May-19 12:31 PM, #126
Are you kidding?,
JohnEveryMan,
01-May-19 08:04 AM, #114
See my other post,
Murphy,
01-May-19 08:28 AM, #116
I don't think you know what "concrete proof" means,
JohnEveryMan,
01-May-19 09:02 AM, #118
Concrete examples, not concrete proof.,
Murphy,
01-May-19 09:53 AM, #120
RE: I'm bringing it up because it's important.,
lasentia,
01-May-19 07:20 AM, #109
Concrete examples of wrong punishment.,
Murphy,
01-May-19 08:22 AM, #115
These are pretty poor examples...,
Destuvius,
01-May-19 09:58 AM, #121
RE: These are pretty poor examples...,
lasentia,
01-May-19 10:18 AM, #123
Matrik is from Texas.,
Murphy,
01-May-19 10:30 AM, #124
RE: These are pretty poor examples...,
Murphy,
01-May-19 12:47 PM, #127
RE: These are pretty poor examples...,
lasentia,
01-May-19 01:51 PM, #128
Hmm.,
Murphy,
01-May-19 02:21 PM, #129
Wasnt trolling.,
Lhydia,
01-May-19 10:01 AM, #122
An ounce of free time, a hint of an idea, and I'll be b...,
Ignolmeer,
30-Apr-19 12:10 AM, #85
kov is back,
Dallevian,
30-Apr-19 02:02 PM, #99
VOTE,
ARegularPlayer (Anonymous),
29-Apr-19 05:27 PM, #81
I'd be all for group skill learn bonus, similar to xp.,
SPN,
28-Apr-19 08:30 PM, #77
Try some seasons,
Artificial,
28-Apr-19 04:28 PM, #75
RE: Try some seasons,
Ishuli,
28-Apr-19 04:50 PM, #76
Asking "But, is it fun?" missing for quite some time...,
KoeKhaos,
28-Apr-19 01:53 PM, #73
Fun!,
Ishuli,
28-Apr-19 02:16 PM, #74
"Losing is fun" doesn't work in multiplayer.,
Murphy,
30-Apr-19 04:50 AM, #88
Winning isn't fun without the risk of losing, especiall...,
JohnEveryMan,
30-Apr-19 06:12 AM, #89
Indeed, but that's beside the point,
Murphy,
30-Apr-19 06:56 AM, #90
That's better context.,
JohnEveryMan,
30-Apr-19 07:06 AM, #91
Events.,
Cointreau,
28-Apr-19 06:40 AM, #70
Agree (n/t),
JohnEveryMan,
28-Apr-19 07:49 AM, #71
Edges, Hell, ST,
Kstatida,
28-Apr-19 02:16 AM, #64
Pretty sure,
incognito,
28-Apr-19 02:54 AM, #67
Who gives a damn about what you're pretty sure of?,
Kstatida,
30-Apr-19 08:04 AM, #92
You got the order wrong,
Bemused,
28-Apr-19 05:10 AM, #69
I play what little I can, but,
Calion,
27-Apr-19 02:30 PM, #61
RE: I play what little I can, but,
Ishuli,
27-Apr-19 03:30 PM, #62
Please tell me the new race is Tiefling!,
Blkdrgn,
30-Apr-19 04:32 PM, #102
RE: Please tell me the new race is Tiefling!,
Ishuli,
30-Apr-19 04:52 PM, #103
Apologize for invasion of privacy. Unban Boris.,
Murphy,
27-Apr-19 11:58 AM, #56
RE: Apologize for invasion of privacy. Unban Boris.,
Ishuli,
27-Apr-19 02:07 PM, #58
Noone needs it,
Kstatida,
28-Apr-19 02:17 AM, #65
I'm not interested in making demands.,
Murphy,
28-Apr-19 03:28 AM, #68
RE: What would bring you back?,
TheBluestThumb,
27-Apr-19 06:32 AM, #45
Ish has been extremely plain and open,
JohnEveryMan,
27-Apr-19 07:11 AM, #46
RE: Ish has been extremely plain and open,
Saagkri,
27-Apr-19 08:22 AM, #49
Yeah #### you Ishuli for trying. ,
Lhydia,
27-Apr-19 07:34 AM, #47
RE: What would bring you back?,
Ishuli,
27-Apr-19 02:07 PM, #57
Minor changes won't bring a major resurgence,
Artificial,
27-Apr-19 03:48 AM, #44
RE: Minor changes won't bring a major resurgence,
Ishuli,
27-Apr-19 08:34 AM, #51
Yeah there’s a lot of overly sensitive sissies i...,
TJHuron,
27-Apr-19 09:04 AM, #52
Maybe it could be a question on creation?,
Artificial,
27-Apr-19 02:17 PM, #59
RE: Maybe it could be a question on creation?,
Ishuli,
27-Apr-19 02:26 PM, #60
RE: Maybe it could be a question on creation?,
robdarken_,
27-Apr-19 04:22 PM, #63
RE: What would bring you back?,
Patrisaurus,
26-Apr-19 09:46 PM, #36
RE: What would bring you back?,
Jarmel,
27-Apr-19 02:47 AM, #43
RE: What would bring you back?,
Ishuli,
27-Apr-19 08:19 AM, #50
The bottom line is...,
Saagkri,
27-Apr-19 09:19 AM, #53
RE: What would bring you back?,
Patrisaurus,
28-Apr-19 10:55 AM, #72
Here's something more constructive...,
Saagkri,
26-Apr-19 07:39 PM, #17
RE: Here's something more constructive...,
Ishuli,
26-Apr-19 07:46 PM, #18
Wow,
Saagkri,
26-Apr-19 08:00 PM, #21
RE: Wow,
Ishuli,
26-Apr-19 08:33 PM, #25
Of course,
Saagkri,
26-Apr-19 09:36 PM, #34
I agree 100% on the berserker rule. It does not make se...,
TJHuron,
27-Apr-19 09:21 AM, #54
Constructive criticism:,
robdarken_,
26-Apr-19 08:55 PM, #29
Heh,
Saagkri,
26-Apr-19 10:11 PM, #38
If half of these were implemented I’d come back....,
Homard,
26-Apr-19 09:34 PM, #33
The IMMs asking this question.,
Saagkri,
26-Apr-19 07:26 PM, #13
RE: The IMMs asking this question.,
Ishuli,
26-Apr-19 07:34 PM, #14
I know you're doing a lot,
Saagkri,
26-Apr-19 07:48 PM, #19
RE: I know you're doing a lot,
Ishuli,
26-Apr-19 07:55 PM, #20
It's not easier.,
Saagkri,
26-Apr-19 08:06 PM, #22
RE: It's not easier.,
Ishuli,
26-Apr-19 08:20 PM, #23
Another class,
Saagkri,
26-Apr-19 09:40 PM, #35
There's a fine phrase commonly attributed to Einstein,
Kstatida,
30-Apr-19 08:07 AM, #93
RE: What would bring you back?,
Jarmel,
26-Apr-19 06:17 PM, #12
RE: What would bring you back?,
Ishuli,
26-Apr-19 07:35 PM, #15
RE: What would bring you back?,
Jarmel,
26-Apr-19 08:55 PM, #28
RE: What would bring you back?,
Ishuli,
26-Apr-19 09:13 PM, #31
RE: What would bring you back?,
Jarmel,
26-Apr-19 09:29 PM, #32
Edge points,
incognito,
29-Apr-19 05:59 AM, #78
RE: Edge points,
Ishuli,
29-Apr-19 12:24 PM, #79
RE: let someone else speak to that,
Murphy,
29-Apr-19 01:53 PM, #80
RE: let someone else speak to that,
Umiron,
29-Apr-19 06:32 PM, #82
Exactly. From the first round of edge changes.,
Murphy,
30-Apr-19 03:59 AM, #86
Sorry,
robdarken_,
30-Apr-19 09:56 AM, #94
#### off.,
Murphy,
30-Apr-19 12:28 PM, #95
Let me explain,
incognito,
29-Apr-19 06:38 PM, #83
But wait, it gets better.,
Murphy,
30-Apr-19 03:50 AM, #87
That may well be the case, but...,
Homard,
29-Apr-19 06:41 PM, #84
Being 11 again.,
JohnEveryMan,
26-Apr-19 03:38 PM, #8
Time travel incoming.,
Ishuli,
26-Apr-19 07:36 PM, #16
More players,
robdarken_,
26-Apr-19 02:58 PM, #7
Yup!,
Wasted,
26-Apr-19 06:09 PM, #11
RE: What would bring you back?,
Ishuli,
26-Apr-19 02:41 PM, #6
What language does CF use?,
Tesline,
26-Apr-19 11:18 PM, #40
RE: What language does CF use?,
Rahsael,
27-Apr-19 01:19 AM, #42
So...it'd be as useful as learning latin?,
Tesline,
27-Apr-19 08:14 AM, #48
beating the same drum as usual,
Dallevian,
26-Apr-19 01:06 PM, #2
I could get on board with most of these,
Wasted,
26-Apr-19 01:46 PM, #3
RE: beating the same drum as usual,
Ishuli,
26-Apr-19 02:38 PM, #5
RE: beating the same drum as usual,
Kstatida,
28-Apr-19 02:29 AM, #66
Remove PK requirements for joining cabals until playerb...,
Lhydia,
26-Apr-19 12:19 PM, #1
Ehhh.,
Ishuli,
26-Apr-19 02:37 PM, #4
Easy fix.,
Lhydia,
26-Apr-19 03:38 PM, #9
RE: Easy fix.,
Ishuli,
26-Apr-19 04:17 PM, #10
Respectfully disagree,
Old player (Anonymous),
26-Apr-19 08:22 PM, #24
RE: Respectfully disagree,
Ishuli,
26-Apr-19 08:47 PM, #26
Nope.,
Berserker (Anonymous),
26-Apr-19 08:50 PM, #27
RE: Nope.,
Ishuli,
26-Apr-19 09:09 PM, #30
True nt,
Saagkri,
26-Apr-19 10:03 PM, #37
This was the case under ghar/thirisg/oliopterix and AFA...,
Demos,
27-Apr-19 12:10 AM, #41
That fort requirement,
incognito,
27-Apr-19 10:19 AM, #55
Here is the big disconnect.,
Former villager (Anonymous),
26-Apr-19 10:16 PM, #39
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