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#72919, "Respectfully disagree"
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Carrion fields by definition is a pk mud and as such there are only 2 cabals based outside of this. That being Acolytes (almost said dawn) and Heralds. And honestly this has been a slippery slope since it was started a while back.
Back in the end of the second age and beginning of the third (golden age by many standards) there was 0 hard wired pk requirements to get into a cabal. And the only one at the time that required a kill was battle ragers. In the form often of "bring me a mage body part" which proved to be ####ing tricky sometimes as it would decay before you could get it to the person. During this time, you had a greater pool of characters to fill your cabals. Sometimes there would be hoops to jump through as in quest, or interviews with X amount of veterans/elders of the cabal, bla bla bla...but it lead actually to a more in depth development of the character and involement with other guild members. Yes, some would say sometimes it was easy to get in, however it was also easy to get booted out.
Fortress is an interesting example of this weird trend. It use to be squires were not required to have an evil kill. Cause well, they are squires. They are learning and yes they want to hunt and kill evil. Easy in, cause well you only had a couple of powers which really were not that great. HOWEVER it gave you a home, a family and people to converse with and interact with via CB. It opened up at all ranks the ability to raid/counter raid/defend as a young char. You will have some Fortress members who down right suck but they have the heart to throw themselves at it over and over and that was more of the fighting spirit. Remember...they are A+ morons. However now...they are required to hunt out and kill that evil pk to even be allowed to join in some of the fun. For some...it may be easy. Either in skill, luck, or really because they coordinate with a friend to get a kill on a character. (I've heard a LOT of this happening from many who still play..evil, mage, good, etc) If you are worried about an influx, you already have a check in place, as they will never reach Maran if they fail to pk evil.
Does the pk requirement break the cabal system? No. However, does it bring a fun factor to the game? This too is no. Opening it up would boost numbers if only to the casual players. I have came back now and then and tried to play little bits at a time. I've gone hours with seeing only a handful of people TOTAL..little less what I have to kill and then more so if even in my range. And when I DID find them, they are decked to hell :p
Just a little food for thought that would perhaps bring more fun to the game. When it is harder to find and get requirements from a player base of 10-15 on avg.
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What would bring you back?
[View all] , Wasted, Fri 26-Apr-19 12:13 PM
Thread's been derailed.,
JohnEveryMan,
01-May-19 09:32 AM, #119
Agreed. Thread locked. (nt),
Umiron,
01-May-19 03:05 PM, #130
Time and a mentality shift,
Destuvius,
01-May-19 03:52 AM, #107
If time permitted, players.,
lasentia,
30-Apr-19 12:44 PM, #96
Re: Who really cares that they can't have 30 edges anym...,
Murphy,
30-Apr-19 01:03 PM, #97
RE: Re: Who really cares that they can't have 30 edges ...,
robdarken_,
30-Apr-19 01:35 PM, #98
That's part of the issue,
Kstatida,
30-Apr-19 03:46 PM, #101
RE: That's part of the issue,
robdarken_,
30-Apr-19 05:01 PM, #104
There weren't any videos. You made that up.,
Murphy,
30-Apr-19 10:45 PM, #106
RE: Re: Who really cares that they can't have 30 edges ...,
lasentia,
30-Apr-19 02:08 PM, #100
I'm bringing it up because it's important.,
Murphy,
30-Apr-19 10:51 PM, #105
What did I miss?,
Lhydia,
01-May-19 05:49 AM, #108
I'd answer but you are clearly just trolling.,
Murphy,
01-May-19 07:21 AM, #110
That is objectively wrong,
Destuvius,
01-May-19 07:37 AM, #111
Do I need to bring up the incident,
Murphy,
01-May-19 07:44 AM, #112
And yet you are here,
Destuvius,
01-May-19 07:57 AM, #113
I'm not the only Russian here,
Murphy,
01-May-19 08:49 AM, #117
Might be the words "cheat ring" that get the scrutiny.,
Jormyr,
01-May-19 11:36 AM, #125
I'm not buying it.,
Murphy,
01-May-19 12:31 PM, #126
Are you kidding?,
JohnEveryMan,
01-May-19 08:04 AM, #114
See my other post,
Murphy,
01-May-19 08:28 AM, #116
I don't think you know what "concrete proof" means,
JohnEveryMan,
01-May-19 09:02 AM, #118
Concrete examples, not concrete proof.,
Murphy,
01-May-19 09:53 AM, #120
RE: I'm bringing it up because it's important.,
lasentia,
01-May-19 07:20 AM, #109
Concrete examples of wrong punishment.,
Murphy,
01-May-19 08:22 AM, #115
These are pretty poor examples...,
Destuvius,
01-May-19 09:58 AM, #121
RE: These are pretty poor examples...,
lasentia,
01-May-19 10:18 AM, #123
Matrik is from Texas.,
Murphy,
01-May-19 10:30 AM, #124
RE: These are pretty poor examples...,
Murphy,
01-May-19 12:47 PM, #127
RE: These are pretty poor examples...,
lasentia,
01-May-19 01:51 PM, #128
Hmm.,
Murphy,
01-May-19 02:21 PM, #129
Wasnt trolling.,
Lhydia,
01-May-19 10:01 AM, #122
An ounce of free time, a hint of an idea, and I'll be b...,
Ignolmeer,
30-Apr-19 12:10 AM, #85
kov is back,
Dallevian,
30-Apr-19 02:02 PM, #99
VOTE,
ARegularPlayer (Anonymous),
29-Apr-19 05:27 PM, #81
I'd be all for group skill learn bonus, similar to xp.,
SPN,
28-Apr-19 08:30 PM, #77
Try some seasons,
Artificial,
28-Apr-19 04:28 PM, #75
RE: Try some seasons,
Ishuli,
28-Apr-19 04:50 PM, #76
Asking "But, is it fun?" missing for quite some time...,
KoeKhaos,
28-Apr-19 01:53 PM, #73
Fun!,
Ishuli,
28-Apr-19 02:16 PM, #74
"Losing is fun" doesn't work in multiplayer.,
Murphy,
30-Apr-19 04:50 AM, #88
Winning isn't fun without the risk of losing, especiall...,
JohnEveryMan,
30-Apr-19 06:12 AM, #89
Indeed, but that's beside the point,
Murphy,
30-Apr-19 06:56 AM, #90
That's better context.,
JohnEveryMan,
30-Apr-19 07:06 AM, #91
Events.,
Cointreau,
28-Apr-19 06:40 AM, #70
Agree (n/t),
JohnEveryMan,
28-Apr-19 07:49 AM, #71
Edges, Hell, ST,
Kstatida,
28-Apr-19 02:16 AM, #64
Pretty sure,
incognito,
28-Apr-19 02:54 AM, #67
Who gives a damn about what you're pretty sure of?,
Kstatida,
30-Apr-19 08:04 AM, #92
You got the order wrong,
Bemused,
28-Apr-19 05:10 AM, #69
I play what little I can, but,
Calion,
27-Apr-19 02:30 PM, #61
RE: I play what little I can, but,
Ishuli,
27-Apr-19 03:30 PM, #62
Please tell me the new race is Tiefling!,
Blkdrgn,
30-Apr-19 04:32 PM, #102
RE: Please tell me the new race is Tiefling!,
Ishuli,
30-Apr-19 04:52 PM, #103
Apologize for invasion of privacy. Unban Boris.,
Murphy,
27-Apr-19 11:58 AM, #56
RE: Apologize for invasion of privacy. Unban Boris.,
Ishuli,
27-Apr-19 02:07 PM, #58
Noone needs it,
Kstatida,
28-Apr-19 02:17 AM, #65
I'm not interested in making demands.,
Murphy,
28-Apr-19 03:28 AM, #68
RE: What would bring you back?,
TheBluestThumb,
27-Apr-19 06:32 AM, #45
Ish has been extremely plain and open,
JohnEveryMan,
27-Apr-19 07:11 AM, #46
RE: Ish has been extremely plain and open,
Saagkri,
27-Apr-19 08:22 AM, #49
Yeah #### you Ishuli for trying. ,
Lhydia,
27-Apr-19 07:34 AM, #47
RE: What would bring you back?,
Ishuli,
27-Apr-19 02:07 PM, #57
Minor changes won't bring a major resurgence,
Artificial,
27-Apr-19 03:48 AM, #44
RE: Minor changes won't bring a major resurgence,
Ishuli,
27-Apr-19 08:34 AM, #51
Yeah there’s a lot of overly sensitive sissies i...,
TJHuron,
27-Apr-19 09:04 AM, #52
Maybe it could be a question on creation?,
Artificial,
27-Apr-19 02:17 PM, #59
RE: Maybe it could be a question on creation?,
Ishuli,
27-Apr-19 02:26 PM, #60
RE: Maybe it could be a question on creation?,
robdarken_,
27-Apr-19 04:22 PM, #63
RE: What would bring you back?,
Patrisaurus,
26-Apr-19 09:46 PM, #36
RE: What would bring you back?,
Jarmel,
27-Apr-19 02:47 AM, #43
RE: What would bring you back?,
Ishuli,
27-Apr-19 08:19 AM, #50
The bottom line is...,
Saagkri,
27-Apr-19 09:19 AM, #53
RE: What would bring you back?,
Patrisaurus,
28-Apr-19 10:55 AM, #72
Here's something more constructive...,
Saagkri,
26-Apr-19 07:39 PM, #17
RE: Here's something more constructive...,
Ishuli,
26-Apr-19 07:46 PM, #18
Wow,
Saagkri,
26-Apr-19 08:00 PM, #21
RE: Wow,
Ishuli,
26-Apr-19 08:33 PM, #25
Of course,
Saagkri,
26-Apr-19 09:36 PM, #34
I agree 100% on the berserker rule. It does not make se...,
TJHuron,
27-Apr-19 09:21 AM, #54
Constructive criticism:,
robdarken_,
26-Apr-19 08:55 PM, #29
Heh,
Saagkri,
26-Apr-19 10:11 PM, #38
If half of these were implemented I’d come back....,
Homard,
26-Apr-19 09:34 PM, #33
The IMMs asking this question.,
Saagkri,
26-Apr-19 07:26 PM, #13
RE: The IMMs asking this question.,
Ishuli,
26-Apr-19 07:34 PM, #14
I know you're doing a lot,
Saagkri,
26-Apr-19 07:48 PM, #19
RE: I know you're doing a lot,
Ishuli,
26-Apr-19 07:55 PM, #20
It's not easier.,
Saagkri,
26-Apr-19 08:06 PM, #22
RE: It's not easier.,
Ishuli,
26-Apr-19 08:20 PM, #23
Another class,
Saagkri,
26-Apr-19 09:40 PM, #35
There's a fine phrase commonly attributed to Einstein,
Kstatida,
30-Apr-19 08:07 AM, #93
RE: What would bring you back?,
Jarmel,
26-Apr-19 06:17 PM, #12
RE: What would bring you back?,
Ishuli,
26-Apr-19 07:35 PM, #15
RE: What would bring you back?,
Jarmel,
26-Apr-19 08:55 PM, #28
RE: What would bring you back?,
Ishuli,
26-Apr-19 09:13 PM, #31
RE: What would bring you back?,
Jarmel,
26-Apr-19 09:29 PM, #32
Edge points,
incognito,
29-Apr-19 05:59 AM, #78
RE: Edge points,
Ishuli,
29-Apr-19 12:24 PM, #79
RE: let someone else speak to that,
Murphy,
29-Apr-19 01:53 PM, #80
RE: let someone else speak to that,
Umiron,
29-Apr-19 06:32 PM, #82
Exactly. From the first round of edge changes.,
Murphy,
30-Apr-19 03:59 AM, #86
Sorry,
robdarken_,
30-Apr-19 09:56 AM, #94
#### off.,
Murphy,
30-Apr-19 12:28 PM, #95
Let me explain,
incognito,
29-Apr-19 06:38 PM, #83
But wait, it gets better.,
Murphy,
30-Apr-19 03:50 AM, #87
That may well be the case, but...,
Homard,
29-Apr-19 06:41 PM, #84
Being 11 again.,
JohnEveryMan,
26-Apr-19 03:38 PM, #8
Time travel incoming.,
Ishuli,
26-Apr-19 07:36 PM, #16
More players,
robdarken_,
26-Apr-19 02:58 PM, #7
Yup!,
Wasted,
26-Apr-19 06:09 PM, #11
RE: What would bring you back?,
Ishuli,
26-Apr-19 02:41 PM, #6
What language does CF use?,
Tesline,
26-Apr-19 11:18 PM, #40
RE: What language does CF use?,
Rahsael,
27-Apr-19 01:19 AM, #42
So...it'd be as useful as learning latin?,
Tesline,
27-Apr-19 08:14 AM, #48
beating the same drum as usual,
Dallevian,
26-Apr-19 01:06 PM, #2
I could get on board with most of these,
Wasted,
26-Apr-19 01:46 PM, #3
RE: beating the same drum as usual,
Ishuli,
26-Apr-19 02:38 PM, #5
RE: beating the same drum as usual,
Kstatida,
28-Apr-19 02:29 AM, #66
Remove PK requirements for joining cabals until playerb...,
Lhydia,
26-Apr-19 12:19 PM, #1
Ehhh.,
Ishuli,
26-Apr-19 02:37 PM, #4
Easy fix.,
Lhydia,
26-Apr-19 03:38 PM, #9
RE: Easy fix.,
Ishuli,
26-Apr-19 04:17 PM, #10
Respectfully disagree,
Old player (Anonymous),
26-Apr-19 08:22 PM #24
RE: Respectfully disagree,
Ishuli,
26-Apr-19 08:47 PM, #26
Nope.,
Berserker (Anonymous),
26-Apr-19 08:50 PM, #27
RE: Nope.,
Ishuli,
26-Apr-19 09:09 PM, #30
True nt,
Saagkri,
26-Apr-19 10:03 PM, #37
This was the case under ghar/thirisg/oliopterix and AFA...,
Demos,
27-Apr-19 12:10 AM, #41
That fort requirement,
incognito,
27-Apr-19 10:19 AM, #55
Here is the big disconnect.,
Former villager (Anonymous),
26-Apr-19 10:16 PM, #39
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